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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jul, 2011 06:29 pm
@tenderfoot,
I don't even have to read his stuff to know what it's going to say. Saves me a lot of time.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2011 04:35 am
@cicerone imposter,
And it took him nearly 8 years to arrive at that position.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2011 04:50 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

And it took him nearly 8 years to arrive at that position.


Like your latest paramour eh?
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2011 05:40 am
@izzythepush,
Paramours izzy.
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2011 06:05 am
Screened a couple of new features on Evolution of several species and a really interesting one on the rise of Angiosperm plants. There is also a new one in the final production phases about DNA markers and the fossil record. Itexplains the several techniques used in developing DNA "Clocks" to compute the fixing of mutations in the genome and how some of these computed dates appear when compared to the fossil record. SOme are spot on while others dont seem to agree at all. The conclusions from those species are that
1the linneages are incorrect or
2 species generations varied markwdly through time.
Birds for example , have many species that go through genberations within one year, while other species go through generations in lifespans that can approach 100 years or more.

These will be produced as supplemental materials for natural science undergrad classes and will probably be out as some kinds of shows on "Discovery type stations"

WHatever happened to the Discovery Channel? Are they only about catching King crabs or tricking hot rods anymore?
Whatever happened to the shows on mammoths or wetlands?

I thought that the great "Dumbing down" would at least take 2 generations. I had no idea that it would occur in 5 opr less years.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2011 07:55 am
@spendius,
I'm sorry, I was forgetting your striking resemblance to Priapus.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2011 09:41 am
@farmerman,
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I thought that the great "Dumbing down" would at least take 2 generations. I had no idea that it would occur in 5 opr less years.


Another weary reverse invidious comparison. The idea being that asserting there's a dumbing down going on is meant to imply that fm is a genius and he can't even understand the RIC which is why he continually employs the simple trick unaware of how ridiculous it makes him look.

The "dumbing down" is an illusion embraced enthusiastically by people who can't keep up and in need of self induced reassurance. It's a very conservative gambit.

Krumpie used variations on the RIC a number of times recently. ci. can't think any other way.

It's a function of the general intolerance of elitist atheists which drives them in on themselves due to the minute size of their fan base.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2011 09:57 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Screened a couple of new features on Evolution of several species and a really interesting one on the rise of Angiosperm plants. There is also a new one in the final production phases about DNA markers and the fossil record. Itexplains the several techniques used in developing DNA "Clocks" to compute the fixing of mutations in the genome and how some of these computed dates appear when compared to the fossil record. SOme are spot on while others dont seem to agree at all.


That is to be expected because the genome is a dynamic entity and is only fixed at the moment of impact. A bit like throwing a wobbling dart at a fast revolving target. Drawing scientific conclusions from the result is fatuous. Of course the result is fixed just as where the dart lands is fixed once it lands.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2011 10:29 am
@spendius,
spendi, You'll never understand science. Results are not fatuous; they are repeatable and confirmed in many ways; it's not one dimensional like you!

Your analogy of a dart misses the whole target, because you don't understand the concept.
tenderfoot
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2011 08:09 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

spendi, You'll never understand science. Results are not fatuous; they are repeatable and confirmed in many ways; it's not one dimensional like you!

Your analogy of a dart misses the whole target, because you don't understand the concept.


And Splendorous like the thousands of " Christians religions " in the USA know everything there is to know about their God/Goddess.... unfortunately none of em agree with each other, accept there is a God/Goddess.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jul, 2011 12:35 pm
@tenderfoot,
I know things about Goddesses tf which you cannot even dream of. I know about the link between the Montanist prophetess Priscilla (Prisia) which link directly to Dylan's One More Cup of Coffee.
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jul, 2011 12:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Your analogy of a dart misses the whole target, because you don't understand the concept.


Another useless assertion. You don't understand the analogy.

I thought you had me on Ignore. Can you not resist?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jul, 2011 12:44 pm
@spendius,
I can't. Episcopalian.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jul, 2011 12:56 pm
@izzythepush,
I wouldn't know about that. People re-write history.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jul, 2011 01:20 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

I wouldn't know about that. People re-write history.


You're right, I caught a bloke doing it on the bus the other day. What he wrote about Edward II would make your teeth curl.
tenderfoot
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jul, 2011 10:49 pm
@izzythepush,
Reminds me of the day my son came home from school and told his mum and I that little babies crawl out of your dicky in the hospital.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jul, 2011 11:10 pm
@tenderfoot,
That's really insightful!
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Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jul, 2011 11:16 pm
Telling people where they come from has never been a problem in rleigion . I went to a Catolic school and was told everything . I explained this to an non-religious friend from a state school on the way home one afternoon . He went home to confront his atheist parents who had told him we come from mummies belly button . He was ordered by his parents to never talk to me again . It seems not all atheists are worshipers of science and that the Catholics are streets ahead of the average idiot atheist .
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jul, 2011 02:19 am
@tenderfoot,
tenderfoot wrote:

Reminds me of the day my son came home from school and told his mum and I that little babies crawl out of your dicky in the hospital.


Put like that it sounds horrible.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jul, 2011 02:29 am
@Ionus,
dissemination of facts and the understanding of them isnt exclusive to religious or non religious schooling. Poor education cuts across all philosophies.
I went to a parochial school for most of my early life and was miles ahead when I reached public school. The Catholic schools demanded excellence and barely tolerated mediocrity whereas The public schools expected mediocrity and bragged whenever excellence appeared.
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