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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 04:02 am
@spendius,
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He starts every post as if we all have no memories.
The basis of which is, of course, his bad memory .

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He reserves that sort of name calling for every occasion where he is stumped.
That is a tad redundant spendi... he is stumped on every occasion so it would suffice to say he uses it on every occasion because he is always stumped .
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 04:03 am
@spendius,
Here's one from page 4 of this thread.

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sorry wandel, but I dont think that spendi adds anything to this thread either. When we get PMing back, I have a solution. Till then, Im gonna not participate because any of our objections to his childish churlishness would be read as petulance. I am interested in the subject but not with his mean spiritedness on the boards.
My honest opinion is that he should seek competent help or else get laid for once in his life so he can have something else to obsess about .


It was emotionally derived from barmyman's inability to respond to my posts. He was, and still is, unaware that my entire position is based on scientific observations made on a sample of females which makes the statistical conclusions of most opinion polls look like guesses. And that I prefer to read the literary publications of men who had made equally comprehensive studies of the female sex rather than those of hung up little pipsqueaks like Dawkins and of the transcripts of neurotic courtroom farces like Dover where a flagella organism was pompously compared to a valve in a pump which flew directly in the face of Darwin's remarks about the complexity of small life forms such as barnacles.

barmyman's whole position is based on a rejection of Christian sexual morality which has no other source than personal convenience. The science is irrelevant to him. He hasn't even read Spengler. He daren't. He couldn't if the truth was told. It is way over his fat head.

And when it comes to atheism barmyman steered away from the Marquis de Sade as he might from a flaming pit in which a shell has just exploded. He was even scared of my comments regarding Footballer's Wives which was a popular programme going out on prime-time TV.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 06:58 am
@Ionus,
The clacquens gather, he he he hee.
What great an assemblage.
I have much mor to strive for since, if my status is based upon the value of mine enemies, Im a low hangin fruit apparently.
Whatever happened to Real Life, he at least tried to use reciprocal logic whereas ANUS likes to quote another of his applause section
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 08:25 am
@farmerman,
barmyman loved Real Life. He was so easy to shoot down that I assumed barmypot has his baliff fasten a duck to the end of his gun when he ventured out a-hunting. And how some of these big-shot anti-IDers loved Momma Angel. They made her cry. She left A2K in a flood of tears. And she was the sort of woman that if you go down dyin' she's bound to put a blanket on your bed.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 08:30 am
@farmerman,
Having me on Ignore means that barmycoot doesn't need to respond to my post about who started name calling. He can sit there smirking with self-satisfaction believing it was me on the evidence of him asserting it that it was not having seen the conclusive evidence that it was him.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 05:50 pm
Origin of the species



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCpT88Jw-f4&feature=related
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 07:01 pm
@farmerman,
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The clacquens gather, he he he hee.
You're drunk again, arent you ?

Gomer the turd must seek help...for alcoholism, low self esteem, delusions of grandeur, and the use of a spell checker (but not bi-polar disorder) .
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 07:21 am
@Ionus,
I wonder whether it will learn that I find it terribly quaint and amusing, no matter what chemically induced state its in at the moment.
It may be a total asswipe, but its our asswipe, I helped create what it is today.

Im so proud of its first attempts at logic.
wandeljw
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 07:29 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
And how some of these big-shot anti-IDers loved Momma Angel. They made her cry. She left A2K in a flood of tears. And she was the sort of woman that if you go down dyin' she's bound to put a blanket on your bed.


Momma Angel NEVER left A2K. She merely changed her username to Arella Mae.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 07:34 am
I was just insulting Arella Mae's mule a day or two ago . . .
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 07:56 am
@Setanta,
thats you, all heart and a mile wide. I can feel the love in this place.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 08:06 am
@farmerman,
She threatened me for that . . . you don't wanna be bad-mouthin' that girl's mule, she's tough as nails!
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 10:52 am
@Setanta,
I recall that I was the first one here to tell her "That aint a horse, thats a mule"---she took it with very good humors and now she has her own driving pack.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 10:06 pm
@farmerman,
Now the drunk is being condescending... next he will be crying....then yelling...then laughing.... then drooling on the floor....then the hair of the dog...and so it goes, another day in the life of an inadequate man full of fear .
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jun, 2011 06:47 am
@Ionus,
Is that what theyve filled your head with at the home? Time for your dose of oxy and blissful coma wherein you can relive your lies of "the fightin squirrel named ANUS".

spendius
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jun, 2011 07:18 am
These atheists and agnostics eh? What can you say?

And it's all my fault for mentioning Momma Angel and starting the cascade.

I apologise to my readers. It was me who put the sitting duck on the branch your honours.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jun, 2011 07:19 am
@spendius,
wande neutralised the Ignore function.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jun, 2011 01:30 pm
UPDATE ON CONTROVERSY AT ADVENTIST COLLEGE
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Blasphemy of a Different Kind
(Steve Kolowich, Inside Higher Ed, June 15, 2011)

Things have gone from bad to weird at La Sierra University.

The university, which is affiliated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, has been dealing in recent months with a controversy over the teaching of evolution that has its Adventist benefactors threatening to withdraw its religious accreditation — and the $4 million per annum that comes with it. Now the university faces a scandal in which a trustee, a vice president, a dean, and an adjunct professor were asked to resign over a recording made, purportedly by accident, of the four men talking informally about the church and university leadership.

The president of La Sierra’s board of trustees on Friday asked for the resignations of Jeff Kaatz, the vice president for university advancement; Jim Beach, the dean of arts and sciences; Lenny Darnell, a trustee; and Gary Bradley, an adjunct professor of biology, according to a campuswide note from the administration.

In recent years, La Sierra has been at the center of an imbroglio over the teaching of human origins that was sparked when a website published e-mails between a biology student and Bradley, the adjunct caught up in the current debacle.

Bradley had rejected a student paper for failing to demonstrate an adequate understanding of mainstream evolutionary theory before advocating for a creationist alternative. That led to an investigation by the board into the biology curriculum. In April, the Seventh-day Adventist Church North American Division voted to extend La Sierra’s religious accreditation by a single year and advised the university to rededicate itself to Adventist principles. (One of the church's "fundamental beliefs" is that God created all human things in six days, as described in the Bible.)

In a note to the campus on Monday, the university’s public relations office said that “these resignations have no connection to the biology controversy.” But according to an account published Tuesday in Spectrum, an Adventist publication, the recording that prompted the resignations was made following a meeting between the Adventist accreditors and the La Sierra faculty.

Darnell, the La Sierra trustee, was present at the meeting and decided to record the proceedings using an application on his smartphone.

According to the Spectrum article, Darnell met up afterward with Beach, Bradley, and Kaatz at a private home, where they watched a National Basketball Association playoff game and discussed the meeting. The recorder kept running, unbeknownst to the four men. It captured “foul language, references to alcohol consumption and unflattering comments being made about board members, administrators, and church leaders,” according to the article. Darnell then sent the recording to a number of key members of the Adventist community, including The Spectrum, reportedly without knowing that it contained more than just the audio of the meeting. Eventually, the recording made its way to Ricardo Graham, chair of the board of trustees.

La Sierra has declined to offer its own version of events. But Larry Becker, a spokesman for the university, confirmed the basic details of this narrative to Inside Higher Ed. He could not confirm the content of the recording, however, because, he said, he has not personally listened to it. Neither Kaatz, nor Beach, nor Darnell, nor Bradley responded to messages from Inside Higher Ed.

In an e-mail to colleagues, Bradley confirmed that he had admitted on the recording that he drank “a small glass of an alcoholic beverage during this conversation” — a fireable offense for faculty members at La Sierra, which has a strict temperance policy. Bradley also said the recording was made by accident, despite speculation that he was the target of sabotage based on his role in the evolution controversy. “It was more ‘Three Stooges’ than ‘James Bond,’ ” he wrote in an addendum to the e-mail.

In a statement on Tuesday, the university reiterated its stance that the situation has nothing to do with the conflict over the biology curriculum.

“Because La Sierra University has been the center of the biology debate in the Church for several years, it is also easy for people who do not know the facts to jump to the conclusion that these resignations must be related to that issue,” it said. “Some have taken it further, blaming the Church for carrying out a biology-related ‘witch hunt’ by asking these individuals to resign. This is simply not true. The ‘convenient’ explanation is sometimes the wrong one.”

Bradley, the biology adjunct, said in his e-mail that he was devastated by the turn of events that has led to his resignation, though he gave no explicit indication that he plans to fight the termination on legal grounds. “I’m not ready to quit…. I have many important projects underway here now and many other people will be inconvenienced by my sudden departure,” he wrote.

“If you are among those who welcome this transition, I request that you celebrate with dignity,” Bradley added. “If you are among those who find this transition upsetting, I ask that you not turn it into a war.”
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jun, 2011 01:46 pm
@wandeljw,
Anything might happen wande when heretics are on the loose.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jun, 2011 05:23 pm
@wandeljw,
sad how dogma of any side rules the professional lives of faculty nd staff.
Im "certain" that the evolution controversy had nothing to do with this.
 

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