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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2011 05:40 pm
@spendius,
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You mentioned genocide rl and I thought it was a good evolutionary example of the naturalness of such things. Was even that not obvious
If you say so!

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Don't tell me that your evolution science only runs as far as using it to discredit the Christian sexual morality. Not that I would be astounded mind you.



I think that all the {modern day} christian sex values I seen, seem to be good except the part about no condoms and I also do not like the idea that most christian states seem to have higher teenage pregnancy rates.

I would think that those kids might need to mature a little more before having kids but I do realize that this is not a perfectly created world!
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2011 06:30 pm
@spendius,
Looool...you old fox !... Laughing
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2011 06:57 pm
A different point of view about the Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution!

Be careful of this video because it is anti Spendius so some of you may not want to watch this one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAro-d4y2Mw&feature=channel_video_title
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 May, 2011 02:53 am
@reasoning logic,
I didn't think it was possible, but that's even worse than the original. They obviously don't understand parody. I had to turn it off half way through. I think that video has done more to prove the non-existance of God than anything else. Surely a kind and loving God would not allow such an abomination.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 14 May, 2011 03:37 am
@reasoning logic,
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I also do not like the idea that most christian states seem to have higher teenage pregnancy rates.


I assume that you don't know that at horserace yearling sales first foals command a premium. Not many well bred fillies race after 3 years old.

It would seem from that that quality of progeny is a function of youth in the mother.

Wharever use condoms have they are not the sort of thing a gentleman whips out at the critical moment. As Veblen once remarked "the illegitimacy rate represents the triumph of the hormones over the proprietaries."

The institutionalised operation of protocols in this respect does seem somewhat anti-evolution and to have shades of totalitarian and eugenical principles.

The proper operation of Christian principles would ensure that pregnancy resulted in marriage for life. Where it doesn't seems to me to prioritise the male interest over that of the female. As does the use of artificial birth control in all its grisly materialistic aspects.

spendius
 
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Reply Sat 14 May, 2011 03:47 am
@reasoning logic,
Seeing his carefully shaped facial hair was enough for me to know where he is coming from. One needs to have a highly attenuated vanity to stand in front of a mirror scraping those shapes into being. Facial hair is a facet of our evolution. So the guy is anti-evolution from his first appearance.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 May, 2011 04:48 am
@spendius,
Well, Spendius you Maypole Frolicking Presbyterian you, (As you have not challenged my postings that suggest such things of you, I feel free to address you as such) you seem to abandoned your opposition to evolution, you said,

Facial hair is a facet of our evolution.

By the way I thought your deconstruction of the quotation by William Burroughs was a masterpiece.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 14 May, 2011 05:09 am
@spendius,
I am not able to see the connection with the facial hair and evolution but I do have to say he does have a mouth on him.

I can only guess that it is that kind of language that his peers respond to but none the less he did have a point!
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 14 May, 2011 05:52 am
@reasoning logic,
Vanity in males never has a point except as the expression of itself.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 14 May, 2011 06:34 am
@spendius,
Yes the vanity is obvious But don't even you have something that your superego likes to be fed?

I call feeding the superego a form of mental masturbating because it seems to stimulate the superego almost like the brain is having a orgasm shooting dopamine at the superego!
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 14 May, 2011 11:17 am
@reasoning logic,
Insofar as the superego is the internalised composite and distilled cacophony of parents, teachers, editors and the like, I don't think I enjoy its undoubtedly useful functions. I'm an id person in essence. I need inducements to keep me in order.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 14 May, 2011 05:27 pm
@spendius,
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I need inducements to keep me in order.





I find this very interesting as I study the latest challenges to the evolution of human behavior!

Where do you get these inducements from that keep you in order?

I would think that these inducement are psychological and if you think that they are or that they are not would you please explain why?

Thanks
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 May, 2011 06:17 pm
@spendius,
Spendius says

Wharever use condoms have they are not the sort of thing a gentleman whips out at the critical moment.

I don't think you're using them right mate. You're supposed to put them on before you have sex, not just before you come. By the way what do you think a 'gentleman' would whip out at the critical moment?
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 14 May, 2011 08:44 pm
I do realize that this does not seem like an evolution topic but believe it or not evolution is mentioned in it!

What I am hoping for is that you all use your scientific minds and think about what is being said. Why are there only a few hundred views when there are so many minds like yours that are able to know this info?
I do realize that this is a dull subject but if you critically think about it you may gain knowledge that should be shared with the world!

part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKImQ-0BQHE&feature=related

part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuhHQWQs2-8&feature=related


part3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juhGMEWZqNk&feature=related

part4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlk3ltydTlY&feature=related
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 07:48 am
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Evolution

In his posthumously published book, The Phenomenon of Man, Teilhard writes of the unfolding of the material cosmos, from primordial particles to the development of life, human beings and the noosphere, and finally to his vision of the Omega Point in the future, which is "pulling" all creation towards it. He was a leading proponent of orthogenesis, the idea that evolution occurs in a directional, goal driven way, argued in terms that today go under the banner of convergent evolution. Teilhard argued in Darwinian terms with respect to biology, and supported the synthetic model of evolution, but argued in Lamarckian terms for the development of culture, primarily through the vehicle of education.[11]

Teilhard makes sense of the universe by its evolutionary process. He interprets complexity as the axis of evolution of matter into a geosphere, a biosphere, into consciousness (in man,) and then to supreme consciousness (the Omega Point.)

Teilhard's life work was predicated on the conviction that human spiritual development is moved by the same universal laws as material development. He wrote, "...everything is the sum of the past" and "...nothing is comprehensible except through its history. 'Nature' is the equivalent of 'becoming', self-creation: this is the view to which experience irresistibly leads us. ... There is nothing, not even the human soul, the highest spiritual manifestation we know of, that does not come within this universal law." There is no doubt that The Phenomenon of Man represents Teilhard's attempt at reconciling his religious faith with his academic interests as a paleontologist. One particularly poignant observation in Teilhard's book entails the notion that evolution is becoming an increasingly optional process. Teilhard points to the societal problems of isolation and marginalization as huge inhibitors of evolution, especially since evolution requires a unification of consciousness. He states that "no evolutionary future awaits anyone except in association with everyone else." Teilhard argued that the human condition necessarily leads to the psychic unity of humankind, though he stressed that this unity can only be voluntary; this voluntary psychic unity he termed "unanimization." Teilhard also states that "evolution is an ascent toward consciousness", giving encephalization as an example of early stages, and therefore, signifies a continuous upsurge toward the Omega Point, which for all intents and purposes, is God.

Our century is probably more religious than any other. How could it fail to be, with such problems to be solved? The only trouble is that it has not yet found a God it can adore.


He was a Jesuit priest.

I can't see a Darwinian taking any notice of that. How can there be direction in a random process? Evolution doesn't know which way it's going. It goes so slow that only teleologists can get a handle on it. They have a big round number fetish in common whatever fancy they come up with.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 08:03 am
@reasoning logic,
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Where do you get these inducements from that keep you in order?


Before you proceed with your studies into brain function it would be useful if you stopped asking such silly questions.

I've been peeling off the psychological side of things ever since I read Veblen but there are stubborn residues which I simply accept as facts. Going into them is a speculative business and quite controversial and can only be justified as a last resort if the residues create a personal or a social problem. And mine don't. Quite the contrary.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 04:38 pm
@reasoning logic,
As I drove through the back face of the SOuthern Appalachians these pqast several days, I became aware of how ingrained the "the end times polka" is being played down in the Carolinas through the SMokies and into the Plateau of Tennessee.
Id seen many many billboards announcing the "Day of Judgement MAY 21 at 6PM". I also saw many many people carrying placards and walking the streets of small towns. Dayton had several sign bearers with "repent" in big red letters. Some of the billboards had web sites which took paypal (I guess in case you wish to make a small tax deductible donation to assuage the gods of the apocalypse).
I wasnt sure (and I didnt want to get my head knocked off by some of these true believers) but I was wondering whether this would be THE APOCALYPSE. with the horses and ****. I never found out and I was late getting to CHatanooga and then home that I just forgot about asking around.

Is this THE REAL APOCALYPSE? CAuse if it is, Im thinking of buying a Mercialago tomorrow. Ill have it for a few days and then , whatever.

    http://lamborghini-murcielago.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Lamborghini-Murcielago-Green.jpg                                     I think I even like the lime rickey green color
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 05:24 pm
@farmerman,
There was a piece on radio 4 some years back about apocalytic cults. One really weird thing about them though was when the time of the apocalypse passed without incident, membership of the cults actually increased. Make of that what you will.

By the way that's a really beautiful car, but a really disgusting colour.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 05:28 pm
@izzythepush,
There's no such thing as a beautiful car unless you are into instruments of low level torture. Which is not only perverted but spineless.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 05:31 pm
@spendius,
And here was me thinking you were the one with the pictures of Clarkson and Jemimah Khan.
 

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