Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

Darwin is reviled by a small contingent of Hoynimhs in USA. The Biblical literalists and the IDers have taken it on their own to display their ignorance by laying all sorts of heinous crimes against humanity at his feet. It would be funny if these people were only idiots. They are , in many cases , decision makers within state legislatures.

We have several here on A2K and its always a running gun battle with their mis attempts at assigning a philosophical relationship among Darwin, Hitler, and Stalin.

The way some carry on here, Hitler and Stalin must of spent bed time with their great grandmothers.

This is just an idea, but I think one big cultural difference between our two countries is how the fundamentalist Christians have a habit of portraying themselves as victims, that they've never been able to fully gain control of the country. Their progress to creating heaven on Earth has been stymied.

Over here we had a brief period with those bastards in charge. That's something hard-wired into DNA. Following the Civil War the Puritans took over. They banned the Theatre, Christmas, Dancing, Football and a load of other things beside. That sort of thing casts a shadow that goes a long way

You sound like Mark Twain... "Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain, a Biography

At least you're in good company

The no establishment clause and the free exercise clause of the first amendment guarantee both that the religious nutbags will always be with us, and that they will never take over. I find it enteraining.

What makes you think there was no necessity for that.

Mrs Thatcher was elected because enough people thought it was necessary. It's not "hard-wired into DNA". Quite the opposite actually. What is hard-wired is not what builds empires. It's what Hogarth painted.

The "shadow" is one of affluence and whinging and whining for more.

What do you think the "Theatre, Christmas, Dancing, Football and a load of other things beside" would look like without some discipline?

Voted in by a free electorate. Is your objection to the extension of the franchise or is to democracy itself? Perhaps only those with a Major in an 'ology should have a vote. Then the focus shifts to how Majors in 'ologies are distributed.

Bloody totalitarians to a man are these anti-IDers. Beware folks. It isn't science they are interested in. It is power and self aggrandisment.

I'm grateful for anti-IDers. They are so full of themselves and impulsive that they provide us with a good look at what the more serious and secretive types of their ilk are like who could creep up on us unnoticed otherwise.

Spendius said

"Theatre, Christmas, Dancing, Football and a load of other things beside" would look like without some discipline?

Can't talk for the rest, but Barcelona v Real Madrid springs to mind

A mere trifle.

I thought Hogarth was an engraver.

I nearly said "photographed" izzy but thought it might get your tail wagging too fast. I like to provide anti-IDers with excuses not to address the points and expose their failure to do so as well as their pedantic punctilliousness.

Human evolution?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_83E3mz8dng&feature=channel_video_title

In 1757 Hogarath was appointed Serjeant Painter to the King.

Bet you can't say that last sentence six times quickly.

Quickly is a relative term. I compose many a sentence that anti-IDers can't read once no matter how slowly they go bearing in mind their eagerness to get a spout back. If they tried to say them they would get all mixed up and tounge-tied because they cannot appreciate the warp and weft of them and thus are reduced to declaring them to have none. As if I had read all those great books for nothing. The warp and weft is all there is. Art for Art's sake. Dawkins has a billposter's brush type of style. He has assumed that his fans are only interested in scientific explanations of why the Pope should have no say in how things are organised in the rumpy-pumpy department. He has issues with the Pope regarding those matters. As do most denizens of media and the legal profession's movers and shakers. And it's understandable. They don't have any internal contradictions in their position as science does.
Science can't be Science if it has on Ignore any Science which it doesn't accept as a Science because if it did accept them it would immediately run into its contractions. It has to stick firmly to its tracks. It has the tracks on Ignore as well. That's why they must be kept well oiled.

Idries Shah said of magic that it's greatest problem was Science's refusal to adopt a scientific approach to investigate Magic. As any scientist willing to take part in a thorough investigation would be subject to the ridicule of his peers.

Is that relevant to my post or just something off the top of your head for us to chew on? How can science investigate magic when it is itself as aspect of magic? And if science did explain magic it wouldn't be magic anymore.

All flesh is grass. All flesh is grass.

If that is so why can't we eat grass. We can eat flesh.