Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

I am under the impression that neither Ionus nor spendius have children. Since neither has a child and one is in Oz and the other is in England, why are they arguing about the teaching of Evolution in the US?

It is very hard to let go of our teachings! Are you easy to except changes?
People of the past were not all stupid they had good reasons some for what they thought to be true and some what they thought to be true could be seen threw observation even though it was not as well understood as it is today.
What they observed appeared to be true and some of what they observed is still happening to this day! It did not change we just have a better understanding of what is taking place!

I hate it when I make mistakes and I am not able to correct my post because it is to late but I do think that if you try hard you will be able to understand my point!

Does religion evolve?

An actual broadcast from the news in Mississippi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhV89QxXovQ&feature=channel_video_title


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iOKjDWmDdQ&feature=channel_video_title

Perhaps because you didnt tell wandlejw to include in the title and opening explanation to exclude non-USA citizens ?

Perhaps, you are just a big mouth who's alienated everyone in Oz?

Anything's possible....perhaps you are motivated by hatred ?

Well then--give us a brief explanation how natural selection works and the reasons why human social rules, customs and traditions are designed to set natural selection aside. Schools are human social institutions preparing the young to take part in the human social structure.

To what extent does respect for authority, a necessity in schools and in society, depend upon force and/or fraud in natural selection?

You really have to establish your premise that your first phrase is even accurate . I say its just another measured blast of spendi gas and is quite meaningless.

THEN the second sentence is merely a statement with no reference to the first. Was there even a question that was arising from it? "Schools are human institutions ..." (Im so glad to have you finally explain to me what schools are and what they are about. I was laboring under a misunderstanding Lo these several decades.)

Are you tanked again? Your skills at composition seem to take a dive every Saturday in your late AM.

Spendis first phrase is "how natural selection works" ......what is your meaning in its accuracy ?

The meaning of the post is very clear . Spendi wants to know how natural selection works . He then wants to know why humans have set natural selection aside . He makes the comment that schools are preparing people for a society that has set aside Natural Selection .

Ahhh, dont be so obtuse. spendis phrase (no 1) was a complex one with several clauses. Here it is in complete form


This, to me is one of spendis patented phrenetic word jumbles. He tries to jam as many thoughts into a phrase and then expects it to make sense. The question he is contemplating is that
"Tell me how natural selection works and why are our(your?) laws designed to set it aside"

If that premise makes sense to you, then pass the bottle over to me , maybe some libation is needed to have it make sense. How the hell can laws of government set aside a scientific theory?
This is the kind of sloppy thinking that youseem to admire in spendi because he likes to include some of his "footnotes". You are easily impressed, I am not.

He never fails to entertain though.

Your replies are not particularly original methods of avoiding the question fm.



In the long run they can't. That's the BIG problem. But as J.M. Keynes said--"The long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead."

The laws of government have no other purpose but to set aside the specific scientific theory under discussion here. The law that takes your money off you to fund NASA is designed to set aside the laws of gravity. Communication systems are designed to set aside the natural limits of human speech.

Teaching evolution thus makes government look ridiculous. Its very principles are the subject of the yards of books you might see in a lawyer's office and every page of them is concerned with controlling evolved impulses. Nobody is going to legislate about matters not subject to natural impulses. And natural impulses are the sole driving force of natural selection.

Isn't the demise of every civilisation due to a failure to set aside natural scientific laws permanently. That these laws have not yet caught up with our civilisation is a matter of our luck to have been born just at this time in history.

To teach evolution is to hurry the onset of our demise. But evolution won't be taught. It will be watered down to be comfortable enough for lady biology teachers. Which is to say a plaything. A word game. Imagining that you are teaching evolution whilst at the same time supporting all the laws designed to set all its basic principles aside.

Evolution offers no reason why every classroom does not become like a monkey cage with the teacher outnumbered 30 to 1 and by fitter organisms.

Your whole position is completely barmy fm unless you mean to pretend to teach evolution and use the pretence to further your agenda against the Church's theology on masturbation, pre-marital intromission in the absence of shotguns, artificial birth control by mechanical, chemical or surgical methods, adultery, divorce, homosexuality, abortion and eugenics. The last named being the obvious and logical outcome of the appliance of science to reproduction.

Which one/s of the above list have you participated in? I have participated in the first four but I wouldn't set about the nation's kids to try to justify any of it.

And teaching is not learning anyway.

spendi, Do you understand anything about politics? Why are you addressing the failure of society based on science? Are you really that dumb?

no

Very ladylike fm.

I am sorry to hear that you have heard that word so much in life from women that it has come to defined women for you!

Not all of them rl.

Good for you Spendius I was beginning to wonder if you may have missed out on some of the greater parts of life! I do hope that it did not cost you anything!

It wouldn't have done if they had all said no.

Do you agree with fm's answer to the question?