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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2011 06:33 pm
@reasoning logic,
No; they are radio waves stronger than any man has ever invented or measured. Many get messages from the dead.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2011 06:36 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Have you ever received such messages before because I am into that kind of stuff! lol
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2011 09:23 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I'm so glad you brought up his use of his own word, "anti-IDer" which gives primacy to a point of view created to counter evolution. As such, it is not logical to speak of anyone being an "anti-IDer." BTW, that construction sounds like JFK stating someone is against an idea.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2011 09:50 pm
@plainoldme,
spendi doesn't understand that one cannot be anti- of anything that doesn't exist.
tenderfoot
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2011 10:35 pm
He can.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 03:16 am
@cicerone imposter,
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spendi doesn't understand that one cannot be anti- of anything that doesn't exist.
Shall we rely on you senility as to what does and does not exist ? Are you clever enough to decide for everyone because if you are you have been holding back enormous amounts when you post here .
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 03:21 am
@tenderfoot,
ID exists. It's a material object. So is anti-ID. Both are physical points of force which act upon the surroundings. Otherwise you have "soul".

Anti-IDers are fully committed to materiality.
Francis
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 03:49 am
@spendius,
Spendi wrote:
Anti-IDers are fully committed to materiality.


Unfounded assertion, Spendi..
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 04:06 am
@Francis,
You dont mean to tell us atheists believe in magic and things you cant see ?
Francis
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 04:20 am
@Ionus,
Too simple an inference..

Obviously I believe in things I can't see, my eyes are not as powerful as an electronic microscope..

Electromagnetic waves are not visible either, yet I believe they exist..
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 04:32 am
@Francis,
Isnt one of the main arguments against religion that they may as well believe in the tooth fairy ? Why is that not a fair criticism of atheists, given your statement ?
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 04:46 am
@Francis,
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Unfounded assertion, Spendi..


In what way? Anti-IDers have no other choice than materiality. The notion that an immateriality can act as a point of force completely undermines the anti-ID position.

All that is happening here is that some atheists are discovering that their position is not as simple as they had thought it to be and they don't like it. They are proclaiming that religion is false in a world that has religion and never dare go near describing the world of no religion they are trying to promote and which human nature will reject.

The street furniture vandal can only draw attention to himself in a world which values street furniture and could not acheive the effect if the rest of us were also street furniture vandals.



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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 05:46 am
@plainoldme,
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I'm so glad you brought up his use of his own word, "anti-IDer" which gives primacy to a point of view created to counter evolution. As such, it is not logical to speak of anyone being an "anti-IDer." BTW, that construction sounds like JFK stating someone is against an idea.


The item is one that we had much discussion over at wandels original thread "ID, SCience or REligion". Spendi made it up to stand for anyone who DID NOT buy into the silly premises of what he called "True ID" (whatever the hell that meant). He was, in turn called "ANTI-science" and "anti-logic" in several posts over at that thread . Spendi has continuaously used the term in a belief that he was making a point to support his rants. Instead, he makes himself sound more like some religious fundamentalist who actually buys all the CREATIONIST?ID crap. It matters not to me that he uses it because it helps deflate
his points nicely. HE just doesnt realize it.

Its just spendi making talk that he feels is profound . I dont wanna spoil his fantasies.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 06:19 am
@farmerman,
Anyone who can be bothered is able to source my usage. I introduced "ID" as shorthand for intelligent design in the same way I do "fm" for farmerman. The narrowing down to a symbol of a concept is mathematical and for the use of those familiar to a discussion about the concept. It saves typing and reading time.

Obviously those who said that intelligent design is bullshit became anti-IDers by simple evolution. It is merely a matter of efficient identification.

I only employed "AIDSers" in retaliation for usages your side had for the other side. And I didn't persist despite you continuing with your versions of insulting shorthand. I presume your post is a claim for special dispensation for your side which is not to be granted to your opponents. That's the anti-IDer's stock-in-trade. You're like babies squealing for the comforter to be dipped into the syrup again.

Both "science" and "religion" are similar shorthand for very complex concepts. Absurdly so in those cases.

In fact, all symbols are shorthand for aspects of reality which can in no way do justice to that reality which is, as Einstein showed, irreducibly complex.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 06:59 am
@spendius,
Well that was at least politely said! I like the part about reality

Do you find this to be reality?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIij-6fN4pA
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 07:12 am
@spendius,
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In fact, all symbols are shorthand for aspects of reality which can in no way do justice to that reality which is, as Einstein showed, irreducibly complex.

This is an example of an unspecified species connectivity (Wherein the proposer merely tries to "Link" their own irrational statements with someone else's,) usually the someone else is one whose credibility is much less assailable. Spendi often does that to add "gravitas" or to act as a "citation without source reference "to his ridiculous points . He at least provides amusement if nothing else of value.
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 07:32 am





HA HA HA HA HA.
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 07:54 am
If you want fiction, choose Science Fiction.
It's better than Religious Fiction.


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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 08:17 am
@eurocelticyankee,
Thank you for sharing, those are great videos!
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 08:31 am
@eurocelticyankee,
Im gonna have to clip these
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