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Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

 
 
dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 12:35 pm
@spendius,
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What of the view that the universe is so simple that a supernatural force could not possibly have been at work?
quite right, just as a battery torch reveals qualities of darkness.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 02:41 pm
@dyslexia,
The data that supports a "Not so Big Cambrian Explosion" has gotten pretty huge of late.
In the last 3 years , fossil evidence showing that life had already expanded into its 3 major superphyla by the NEOARCHEAN (2.8-2.5 Bya) was uncovered in the northern Canadian archean sediments. In the last year, sveral examples of complex animals were found in the Rhyacian sediments of the Proterozoic (about 2.1 Bya). These animals were of the types like mollusca and annelids that serve as goo examples of root stock of later forms that diverged in the excess O2 conditions of the late preCAmbrian and early CAmbrian. So the "Cambrian Explosion" is more correctly , the "Shell Explosion" for the excess O2 enabled the mollusca and gastropods and Bryozoans and trilobites to put on hard shells to act as further protection or as external skeletons to allow them to attain greater sizes.

Several key phyla were discovered in these 2.1 By deposits .

I would imagine that, over the next yer or so, there would be several summary articles or even a book or two about how the development of complex animals was actually a longer process than the earlier legend had us accept.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 03:04 pm
@farmerman,
The funding that supports a "Not so Big Cambrian Explosion" has gotten pretty huge of late. Sediments from various rock formations at convenient distances from the marital abode have been examined carefully and reported on at great length after the taxpayer's pockets were picked using mumbo-jumbo.

It would be more to the point to explain how the development occured rather than how long it took which at this distance in time is of as of much significance to the average grade schooler as that between 2.1 Bya and 1.8 Bya whilst leaving him or her with the impression that a similar process is not occuring now at the same rate and for the same reasons. Which is, of course, to leave a false impression on the poor little imprisoned sods having to listen to authoritative scientific hogwash being purveyed at market rates.

spendius
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 03:12 pm
@dyslexia,
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just as a battery torch reveals qualities of darkness.


Nice trope ed. It perfectly exemplifies man's relationship with the universe. Flatters him even.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 03:18 pm
@spendius,
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after the taxpayer's pockets were picked using mumbo-jumbo.

Did anyone tell you that you are total batshit? No govft funds were expended herein. The funds came from oil industry coffers and chemical companies looking for new deposits of Fe3O4.

PS. were you unaware that edgar and dys are actually not the same person
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 03:56 pm
@farmerman,
All the boys get prettier at closing time.
wandeljw
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 03:57 pm
@edgarblythe,
Good one, edgar!
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 04:12 pm
@edgarblythe,
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All the boys get prettier at closing time.


My scientific investigations around closing time have led me to the opposite conclusion in both senses. And I'm a very experienced researcher of that highly specialised field of organic life.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 04:15 pm
@spendius,
I have no doubt.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 04:19 pm
@farmerman,
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The funds came from oil industry coffers and chemical companies looking for new deposits of Fe3O4.


Why do such companies have any interest in these 3 major superphyla when they are being paid to look for oil and oxides?

The use of the word "complex" tells me all I need to know to recognise hogwash.

It never entered my head that dys and ed are the same person. My mistake explains my surprise. It was too good for ed.



spendius
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 04:23 pm
@spendius,
And I hope you noticed that my previous disagreements with ed didn't stop me making the compliment. It was worth making the error to have that demonstrated.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 05:42 pm
@edgarblythe,
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All the boys get prettier at closing time.
You are already in the walk of fame, now youve outdone yerself.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 05:50 pm
@farmerman,
Hollow barfing ensues. fm is trying to hold his wobbly coalition of worshippers together.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 05:50 pm
@spendius,
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Why do such companies have any interest in these 3 major superphyla when they are being paid to look for oil and oxides?
Im glad youve asked.
Many fossil types are intimately associated with deposits that sre next to or are bracketing oil or metal deposits. Iron is more sedimentary than not. Oil deposits and gas are always associated with "cooked" marine fossils of specific depth ranges. Paleontology has many applications in the real world.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 06:04 pm
@spendius,
I don't know what happened then. Wrong thread.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 06:05 pm
O Great FM! We who worship you and the Holy Evolutionary Process do hereby castigate the unworthy SOS (Sack of ****) and call out the wrath of our god, Darwin, to still his voice 'neath weight of righteous proclamations and scientific trickery. In thy holy name, Raamen.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 06:15 pm
@farmerman,
ed's wobbling fm.

One doesn't take any notice of a sign saying "Licensed to sell alcoholic beverages" to know where the booze is dispensed.

Cooked marine fossils are but a sign. The red light in the window is not the end of the matter by any stretch of the imagination.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 06:18 pm
@spendius,
Your industry fm is studying red lights.

CBS News listed a small number of "earmarks" the other night. Some of them were even more foolish than scratting in the muck.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 06:19 pm
@spendius,
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Cooked marine fossils are but a sign. The red light in the window is not the end of the matter by any stretch of the imagination.
AS Tico said in another thread (and I believe he was talking about your insights into cricket or croquet (Whatever)). He said something like
"Spendi, I think you just string words together and have us believe that you are actually saying something meaningful.

HAve anotha Pilsner mate.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 20 Dec, 2010 06:20 pm
@spendius,
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I don't know what happened then. Wrong thread.
Ill bet youre thinking"What are all these people doing in my room?"
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