I wrote. and I stand by it 100%--
Beware of people who tell you that you are intelligent if you agree with them.
And this is what fm had written which prompted me to say it--
youve got to understand, while most intelligent people here dont subscribe to any of spendis dislocated arguments
I've seen Dawkins use this base attempt to flatter people to try to get them on their own side. It implies that all you need do to be thought intelligent is to reject my dislocated (assertion) arguments. Which is false. And no attempt made to define intelligence. It's false, it's devious and it's weak. It's ridiculous and it's insulting by assuming A2Kers will fall for it when it doesn't mean anything. And it's arrogant with the "youve (sic) got to understand". It's a science free zone. It's the spin zone.
In response to my true statement, it's in Mailer, and it is well known, fm wrote-
Isnt that excatly what you are attempting to do here?
The answer is no it isn't. And the assertion being in the form of a question does not alter that it is an assertion.
Your argumenst are totally vacuous.
An assertion which is not only applicable to me but to every believer from the Pope and the President down. And all the Popes and all the Presidents. Plus the 90% Americans who are not atheists.
Then mysteryman, and fm can't even be bothered spelling the man's name properly, is asserted to not understand and be dead wrong.
Then we get this washed out rubbish about "SO many of the"ID brotherhood" ". What this invented category of persons has to do with me I can't imagine. Or to do with the argument I made. I'll be being lined up with Hitler next because I wear trousers the same as him.
I am on the record expressing my contempt for the Discovery Institute. I even went so far as to accuse it of furthering the atheist cause by presenting a deliberately weak, and silly, case at Dover. It has nothing to do with me. And it is false and devious to try to connect me with it. I don't know if its staff and supporters feel "put upon". I don't feel put upon one iota.
And I don't know about the law of the land. From CBS and Fox I get the impression that federal judges are an aggregate of loose canons on an ego binge. USSC member Alito has announced his rejection of the next State of the Union address and is reported (on CBS) to have shook his head all the way through the last one. A homosexual judge in California overturned Prop 8 ( a democratic decision) and a crowd of homosexuals rushed down to the civic buildings to demand to be "married". They were shooed away and none of them have yet been allowed to be "married". There are other fusses going on between judges and an elected administration. On drilling for oil and on DADT. And Judge Jones heard a very partial tale in Dover and seemed quite happy to do so either out of ignorance or some less innocent motive.
Stating that the NCSE has but one goal (to undermine ID) is silly. The NCSE has been in business to counter the EVangelicals whove tried to get their noses under the US ed tent by promoting Cretionism and ID since the days of EPPERSON.
That's incoherent. First it's "silly" saying that the NSCE has one goal and then it goes on to define that one goal as "being in business" to achieve it. My view of the NCSE is based on the PR handouts which wande has quoted none of which would ever go out with my name signed on the bottom. Not that anybody does sign their name to them mind you. They are anonymous and posted from behind locked and guarded door in big cities in the N.E. of the US miles from the situations in Louisiana and Texas which they show no understanding or tolerance of and which are being dealt with by people who have stood on the hustings and been elected. Nobody in the NCSE has done either. It is a self-appointed, self-selected and self-validating body of lobbyists which, as with all such bodies, is anti-democratic, anti-free specch, insidious and treacherous. It is de-stabilising. It insults elected officials. I support them. A Rhodes scholar is talked about and written about as if he is a moron. And a freely elected Rhodes scholar. And what do we know about those who engage in that sort of talk and writing?
I am certainly tired of having to restate the obvious while you, like the MAd HAtter, try to redefine reality to suit your own silly world view.
If fm is tired of stating the obvious (another assertion) he is free to take a rest. That very post is contrary to his statement. He subscribes to the NSCE. My world view is not just my own. It is subscribed to by the majority of the population and by almost every elected person. If it is "silly" (an assertion) all the others are silly too.
The rest of your arguments are totally without substance and relevance.
Another self-validating and self-comforting compound assertion with no meaning.
However, ignoring you pwermanently will prove nothing either
We all know what the Ignore function is for on these threads. Setanta said recently that he has nobody on Ignore. Notice the present tense in that. He could cancel his Ignore list, say he has nobody on Ignore, and then reinstate the list and he hasn't told a lie. Big Deal. He has stated he has had me on Ignore. Boasted about it too as if it is an intellectually superior position when it is actually infantile. I have nobody on Ignore. Never have had and never will have. Then he pretends that scrolling past a post is somehow different from formally ignoring it when the effect is identical.
especially since people who are less informed can be easily swayed by run on sentences full of nothing of substance
Here we go again. The opposite of the statement that " most intelligent people here dont subscribe to any of spendis dislocated arguments". This version labels anybody who thinks I have a case as "less informed". I don't assume such elitist, self-comforting and insulting attitudes to A2Kers. My posts assume the opposite.
I'm shocked and astonished that Americans can sit on their hands and allow the two replies to my post earlier from fm and ci. to stand without objecting to them. Maybe it is some misplaced loyalty to other Americans of the sort Sam Johnson accused James Boswell of exhibiting in relation to Scotsmen. A sign of the anti-intellectualim Mr Hofstadter wrote about and which I have a hardback copy of and which I have read.
The "less informed" category which fm uses to compliment himself, it implying he is well informed, includes Mr Obama, Mr Biden, Mr Blair, Mr Clinton, Mr Bush, Mr Jindal, Mr Cameron, Mr Putin, The Pope and H.M. The Queen to name but a few of the very large majority which rejects atheism and all it stands for with its assertions, insults and crass, unjustified elitism.