Latest Challenges to the Teaching of Evolution

Is ros a Russian? He's speaking of over 90% of Americans and probably 100% of those who live outside the giant metropolis.



I think every business which attracts crowds of people will reserve that right for itself.



Fundamentalist Religions are things and the concept of tolerance does not exist for things. The members are tolerant of others with different views on a grand scale. They work and play and are neighbourly with almost all legally and socially accepted behaviours. It is ros who is intolerant. So much so that he shuts his eyes and ears to opposition he can't answer. Which neither Io or myself not only don't do but wouldn't dream of doing.



How can they show they are not delusional if any serious attempt to contradict that stupid and tiresomely repetitive assertion of ros's is just shut out with a flick of the wrist.



Obviously. Ms Barton's agenda, plain to see, and her statement about a lesbian couple being paranoid is not verifiable here and might easily be derived from the Goebbel's school of bullshit. And what does "This "self-policing" is a common occurrence in same-sex relationships in the Bible Belt, Barton said" actually mean when scrutinised by even a half-baked critical thinker.

Quoting such stuff on a science thread is pathetic. Two patently subjective judgments standing as evidence. Whatever will you tossers think of next?

Actually, it is you ducking questions spendi..

How does a farmer tell when a cow in his herd is in heat?
The answer is that other cows mount her. Females humping females spendi.

You didn't seem to know the answer to that one even after claiming you spend some time on a farm with animals. Surely you would have noticed such a thing as females humping each other if you had spent time on a farm.

It's the same with spendi; although he makes claims about things, the evidence he provides about himself shows he just doesn't "see."

Yes I have seen many a cow climbing up on another cow. I can't remember what I thought they were up to before I discovered the birds and the bees but after a while I came to realise that thinking they were humping was anthropomorphic. I know now that I don't know what it is. Horseplay maybe. A hierarchy signifier. They always went into the same milking stall as if they each had an allotted place. Maybe it was to determine things like that. Bossing. I don't know. I can't speak for cows. There was certainly no intromission of reproductive material and it could have been the herd warming one or two up to make her receptive to the bull. If my memory serves me well it was always milking cows.

I would need a lot of persauding that it was homosexual behaviour in the sense we mean it unless lesbians are satisfied with climbing on each others backs. I saw many young women linking arms when out walking but nobody ever said they were lesbians. And I've seen many young men holding hands in the middle east but it is not a thing you see here in the immigrant communities. Those and the cows might well be some form in relationship bonding. I can't connect them to sex. Only a sex maniac would think you could. Not a scientist.

There was a racehorse going round the pre-race parade ring at Royal Ascot with a serious stonker on right in front of the Queen. It showed no interest in the other colts around it. It didn't win of course. They never do. As soon as that is seen they "go for a walk in the market" which is good evidence that sexual arousal is debilitating. So beware para. Media might be a bigger danger to the US economy that has previously been thought. Which would explain its determination to blame everybody else.

I left my farms and large private park when I was 18. I didn't know there was such a thing as homosexuality then. I like to think we would all benefit by being as ignorant at that age as I was.

Are you arguing that homosexuality is normal in the animal world as ci. claimed it was?

Have I ducked any questions there?

Your ability to see and know are two different aspects of your life that differs from most people who learn from this kind of experience. That's provides us with a clue as to why your opinions usually do not fit the norm.

Hey ci. They are scared of you. They daren't tell you that your statement about homosexuality being normal in the animal world was a load of crap. Had they thought otherwise they would have been in defending you. How many other species are there besides cows and I'm not satisfied that what cows do is sexual behaviour as we think of it with candlelit dinners for two, wall to wall deceptions, lingerie, lubrication jellies, spermicides, subdued lighting, the Kama Sutra open on the pillow, and leaning back post coitally sucking a big draw on a Camel and wondering how to get back to the pub respectfully.

Animals don't have sex. They copulate at certain seasons. Often months or even years apart. We don't want that do we?

Are you really going to teach the kids, when you have won this argument, that their sexual behaviour patterns can be readily equated with those of the beasts. That's what the euphemism "I'm not a monkey" is really referring to when thought of intelligently. It denies that proposition. It's only tangentially connected to table manners and dress sense and chattering.

And then there's the "last rasping gasp of the mantis's groom" to consider. One can't go picking and choosing animals to fit whatever argument one wishes to make. Not and be thought of as intelligent.

But I will admit that there's a drift towards chattering and uncivilised table manners and exposing more and more flesh. Ugh!!! Those men in their shorts at the Masters was a horrible sight. So maybe you're all onto something you can ride the coat tails of. Steve Martin did hint in that direction in relation to sex in The Man with Two Brains. And the US was the fastest on the job in an international survey of mount times.

Is all you have to say is about what I'm no good at? If your statement about homosexuality being normal in the animal world is anything to go by then you can't say what I'm no good at often enough for my liking.

"They" are not capable of thinking in logical style or what is natural in this world. Their brain has been brainwashed by their parents, their preachers, and the friends they have like you do at your local pub. You are not capable of critical analysis of life, nor how to observe reality all around you.

Crikey. My "they" was fm, wande and ros. They have been challenged to defend your statement that homosexuality is normal in the animal world. Twice at least. They have failed to respond. They are putting anti-ID party interest above science. Which, of course, grants permission for the ID party to do the same unless only anti-IDers have such a right.

How did you come to think that I commented on un-named parents, preachers, and friends in a local pub not coming in, here, that's in, to defend your statement. Who else could I have been talking about? Where else could "in" be but this thread?

You don't read my posts. Obviously. You're too eager to blurt out your repetitive drivel.

crikey, spendi, stay on topic if you can.

I am on topic. I asked if you wanted to equate in schoolkids minds their own sexual behaviour and that of their parents with the mating habits of the beasts?

It only happens when a cow is in heat spendi. It is very related to reproduction which requires sex.

I doubt very much spendi understands the term "animal in heat."

If that's how you think of "sex" para it's your affair. Far be it from me to have opinions on other men's peccadilldoes. I never heard of one male beast from the whole kingdom of beasts which ended up splattered in a gutter, wasted, weary and worn out and skint to boot gazing at the sky glassy-eyed, as a result of bestial copulation. In every case of that nature, and I have come across a few, it was a divine, celestial goddess type of creature that did it. Never a cow, a ewe, a mare, a bitch, a hen, a goose, a filly, a sow, a hind, a doe, a vixen or a lioness. The chaps in the evolutionary canon seem to come to grief for other reasons entirely.

It's been my downfall ci.

You have confused farms with night clubs.
Is that succesful in any way or might it be cows trying to dominate each other ? How much of it is sexual and how much is power play ?

Thank God we have people like that. Dictators, Nazis, Communists, Greenies and Lefties lean heavily on intimidation to make people the "same".

So that herd doesnt need bulls ? Is it still there ?

What do you think Io about ci. saying that homosexuality was normal in the animal world and his anti-ID pals refusing to defend his statement after being challenged to do so. It is a matter at the very heart of evolution theory after all.

I rather looks to me that science goes straight out of the window just as soon as the unity of the party in endangered. Imagine that on a national scale. Turning scientists into agents of the state is what's on the end of that. And then they claim to speak for science.

We have also learned recently that ci. has the Bible on Ignore. That hasn't stopped him denigrating it. It makes one wonder about the rest of them. They say things about that wonderful book that are enough to shock any civilised person and one of them has it on Ignore. They are in the dumbing down business and for sure.

Have you not found dear Tristram Shandy yet?

His formal education clearly didnt cover the difference between an occurance and normality. For some humans, they are born with the mind of the opposite sex. For most human homosexuals, they have made a decision that a homosexual life is better for them...usually mental illness, abuse, or an overly sexual nature. There is nothing normal about it.

anthropomorhizing something like homosexuuality and transferring it to the animal world goes beyond stupid, and who better to adopt the mantra ANUS!!.