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Anyone Else Still Having Trouble with the New Site?

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 25 Aug, 2008 10:38 pm
@MagicianKnight,
Magician Knight, click on reply, click on the green BBCode, click on IMG button, insert the jpg or gif between the two image parenthesis things.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 26 Aug, 2008 12:06 am
@cicerone imposter,
I am with you man!

The overall interface is very inefficient.
The general layout has far too much empty space.
The avatars are too small.
The option buttons are too big.
Pretty much everything is ill-proportioned and unintuitive.
Even the thumbs are cryptic, no one needs icons when simplistic text would do.
Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 26 Aug, 2008 12:15 am
Even the balloon help is lame as it's either nonexistent or simply redundant.

And the ridiculously short time you have to edit posts is ultra-lame, there should be no time limit for edits until the next poster responds.

Actually I prefer no time limit for any posts regardless of chronology, albeit I like to see the complete edit history, which is another thing this site does not have.

Oh, and having to log in with an email address now that one is the hight if lameness, you should be able to choose whatever login text you want.
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Tue 26 Aug, 2008 12:42 am
@Chumly,
Chumly wrote:

The overall interface is very inefficient.


Well it just got a little more efficient with the tag grids. Lots more work to do there but it's already better than the last site in terms of navigation to the core features with the tag update.
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The general layout has far too much empty space.


If you pay attention to how fast the changes are coming, you might consider we have things planned for those spaces.

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The avatars are too small.


There will be a preference to set different sizes and to eliminate them altogether.

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The option buttons are too big.


What options buttons?

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Pretty much everything is ill-proportioned and unintuitive.


I think this is just a bit of hyperbole, but if you point out specifics it could be helpful to me.

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Even the thumbs are cryptic, no one needs icons when simplistic text would do.


And what would the text be? Those icons are meant to change, but I actually think icons will better convey the meaning than any text, especially when localization to other languages comes into play.

I personally would prefer an up or down arrow, but the whole voting badge was unfinished (graphic designer is busy) and not even what we had planned for launch.

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Even the balloon help is lame as it's either nonexistent or simply redundant.


What do you mean by this? The tooltips? The "alt" and "title" texts? If so, yeah they need a lot of work and I'll eventually get to it. But that's hardly in the way of anyone and is a low priority. The last software had stuff like "image" for the tooltips as well.

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And the ridiculously short time you have to edit posts is ultra-lame, there should be no time limit for edits until the next poster responds.

Actually I prefer no time limit for any posts regardless of chronology, albeit I like to see the complete edit history, which is another thing this site does not have.


Unlimited edits probably wouldn't be considered without the revision history, which is actually being considered. But this is a process issue more than a technical one. With unlimited editing, spammers will do things like post a helpful post and edit it in later when to have links to porn without easy ways to catch that, since users are focused on the last posts and wouldn't see and report it as much.

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Oh, and having to log in with an email address now that one is the hight if lameness, you should be able to choose whatever login text you want.


I agree that it should be either email or username and will eventually work that way, but the last site didn't give you the option either, and the use of the username is a usability challenge for more users (for the infrequent ones more than the regulars).

Many infrequent users don't remember what username they used, but they do remember their email. Email is a better login credential than username, but this system could and will support both eventually.

Chumly, this site's been open for a few weeks, and it's still just two guys doing it part time with other jobs to help foot the bill. I think we'll do good for a2k, and make an application that rivals the best applications out there, but you can't expect it to have the polish of other applications like vbulletin that have been around for years (decades even?) right now. It's unfinished and we said it would be rough in the beginning.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 26 Aug, 2008 01:05 am
@Robert Gentel,
You know, you've developed a lot of patience in the past 3 or 4 years.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 26 Aug, 2008 05:49 am
@Robert Gentel,
Quote:
Well it just got a little more efficient with the tag grids.
smoother steering...
Izzie
 
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Reply Tue 26 Aug, 2008 05:55 am
@Region Philbis,
(says quietly... I kinda got used to it now... it's improving ten-fold! Would like to be able to edit tho until next poster posts - often make typos and like to change when possible - but that's no biggie really)
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 26 Aug, 2008 06:24 am
@Izzie,
i catch a bunch of my typos with the ol' preview button...
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Tue 26 Aug, 2008 10:31 am
@roger,
Well I certainly didn't feel patient when I posted.
Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 26 Aug, 2008 06:45 pm
@Robert Gentel,
No animosity on my part.

What options buttons you ask?

"Update"
"Preview"
are absurdly big

"Reply"
"Delete"
"Report"
are just plain too big

What do I mean by "Even the balloon help is lame as it's either nonexistent or simply redundant"? Slide your mouse over "Reply" or Report" and tell me what net advantage the balloon help is when it's simply redundant. Talk about lack of context sensitive help.

I should also note the better forums often have menu driven tops which this one sorely lacks. As discussed for a nice forum layout check out:

http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/

Great menu driven top, clean to the point interface, no wasted space, nicely proportioned and intuitive, no needles icons when text will work, no time limit for edits even after the next poster responds, etc.

Slide your mouse over a topics and the balloon will text out the contents without opening the thread!
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Bohne
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 03:10 am
@Dutchy,
@Dlowan and Dutchy:

Thank you, you are sweet.
I suppose right now I don't have the time and patience to really get into all this new stuff.
Too much going on around here.
Would like to PM, but I think this is still not possible.

But at least I think I found the right blue again!
Dutchy
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 03:50 am
@Bohne,
You're doing fine Bohne, you even managed a lovely Avatar of yourself, very clever. pm's will be back one day I hope. Big shift still on next month?
Bohne
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 07:36 am
@Dutchy,
@dutchy: Less than two weeks to go!
One more week of work.
Lots of organisational stuff to do!
Baby was sick last week.
Visa has not arrived, yet.
And on top of everything, my dad passed away!
I feel like I am just keeping together by not thinking about anything and might have a big breakdown when all of this is over!

Sorry, I cannot access my kurzefrage-email at the moment either, otherwise I would have sent you a note.
Izzie
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 07:40 am
@Bohne,
Oh Bohne.... I am so sorry about your father passing away... so very sorry girl. Wish I had something to say to make you feel better - but it must be so hard for you right now. Sending you a hug - albeit a virtual one - and love to you and yours.
Iz x
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Dutchy
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2008 08:09 am
@Bohne,
Bohne my sincere condolences to you with the loss of your father, not unexpected but nevertheless a great loss no doubt. Trust your organisational talent will get you ready in time for the big move. Keep focussing my friend your baby and hubby need you in the new world. Hugs to you and yours, and please let us know how you're getting on once you've settled down. Take care.
tamlou
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 02:52 am
@Dutchy,
Dutchy!! I have done my first post on this new, albeit extremely confusing, site!! Thanks so much for the PM on how to start navigating around - it certainly helped, now how do I get my avatar back up? Couldn't find anywhere to go for my profile!! AAGGH!! I am determined to keep using this site - I have found it so useful in the past - I guess change is never easy... I do wonder what brought it all on though - was the old site really that bad - it doesn't seem like many people on this thread thought a change was needed?
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tamlou
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 03:22 am
@Dutchy,
I did it myself! Thanks anyway Dutchy, got the avatar thing worked out after clicking on a few buttons!!
Dutchy
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 07:51 am
@tamlou,
Congratulations tamlou you did well! Did you find Lovatts thread also?
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TTH
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2008 11:47 am
I also have been having problems navigating the new site. I like change so to me it is a challenge trying to figure how to get around. Overall, I like the looks especially the blue color.

Bohne I read about your father and wanted to say I am sorry for your loss.
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 6 Sep, 2008 09:48 pm
@TTH,
TTH, have you seen the tutorial slideshow I made to help people figure out the navigation?

http://able2know.org/topic/121336-1

I also started a topic to keep track of all the various announcements about tweaks, fixes and new additions. I got busy and haven't kept it up but it has a good majority of it.

http://able2know.org/topic/121229-1

And then you have Jespah's Secrets of the New A2K with links to lots of helpful posts.

http://able2know.org/topic/120955-1
 

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