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haul George Bush into a court of law

 
 
Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 09:52 am
Impeachment? Truth and reconciliation commission? Never mind that ?- haul George Bush into a court of law, part 1
by Russ Wellen, Scholars and Rogues
Posted on August 11, 2008 by Russ Wellen under Book Reviews, Bush administration, Iraq, Justice Department, democracy, impeachment, justice, law, media, national security, war.

Today we visit Vincent Bugliosi's book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder. Tomorrow we visit Vincent Bugliosi himself as he talks about his appearance before the House Judiciary Committee appearance and his book.

As you may have heard by now, the mainstream media has been giving Vincent Bugliosi's latest book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, the cold shoulder. Never mind that he authored what was, at the time, the bestselling crime book in history, Helter Skelter, about his successful prosecution of the Manson family. Nor that he's written numerous bestsellers since. His 2007 book, Reclaiming History, a 1,600-page attempt to dispel alternative histories of the Kennedy assassination, is being made into a mini-series by HBO and Tom Hanks.

In the only mainstream media article addressing The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder and its reception, New York Times reporter Tim Arango writes: "The editor of Newsweek, Jon Meacham, said he had not read the manuscript, but he offered a reason why the media might be silent: ?'I think there's a kind of Bush-bashing fatigue out there.'"

The main reason though may be Bugliosi's agenda: Impeach Bush? Convene a truth and reconciliation commission for him and his gang? Forget all that. Once Bush is out of office, let's drag his butt into a court of law. But the media's perception that much of the public can't conceive of prosecuting a president in a court of law is probably accurate.

Most Americans are too invested in whatever remains of the myth of the presidency and fear that a trial would subvert a president's authority. Besides, as Bugliosi himself said in an interview with the Nation, "Americans just can't believe an American President would engage in conduct that smacks of such criminality, and thus the whole notion of taking the President to court for murder is a revolutionary one."

Myth-busting aside, and however out of fashion Bush-bashing may be, Bugliosi summons up a depth and breadth of rage that shames those of us who have been reduced to ennui and cynicism by the Bush years. You'd never know that not only is he 73 years old but still on the rebound from the monumental task of researching and writing his Kennedy tome.

For instance, he has no compunctions about pulling the rug out from under soldiers' rationalization of last resort -- that they fight over there to keep from fighting here. To Bugliosi the question isn't why but who. He writes: "If you say our young men didn't die for Bush, Cheney, and Rove, then whom did they die for?"

Nor does he pull any punches on Bush's character. "What I strongly believe (without absolutely knowing) is that this man has no respect or love for this country." What makes him think that?

For starters, Bush put our young people in harm's way for no good reason, avoided the draft when young himself, and experiences no apparent concern for the carnage in Iraq. Furthermore, he spends much of his time in Crawford, neglects to read reports, and is guilty of blatant cronyism. What really sticks in Bugliosi's craw is the cheerfulness and insouciance that Bush exhibits in a time of war.

For instance, Bugliosi cites an August 2005 day Bush spent in Crawford in the midst of a two-week period during which 42 Americans were killed. With Bush's only work-related activity lunch with Condoleezza Rice, he called it a "perfect day." Bugliosi writes: "I don't know about you, but if I ever killed just one person, even accidentally, like in a car accident, I'd never have another perfect day as long as I lived."

At one point Bugliosi even declares: "Bush is a grotesque anomaly and aberration." If, even in the service of rallying us to prevail upon the Justice Department to bring charges, such exclamations seem over the top, look at this way. The least we could do is allow Bugliosi to vent since much of this book is essentially a turnkey project for a federal attorney to start the ignition on the prosecution of Bush and put it in gear.

A crime is an act that's not only prohibited, but accompanied by criminal intent. In the case of murder, this is known as malice aforethought, which comes in two varieties. The first is express malice ?- the specific intent to kill. In the second, implied malice, the intent is not to kill but to commit a dangerous act with wanton disregard for the consequences as well as an indifference to human life.

Bush, Bugliosi writes, not only fulfilled the second requirement, implied malice, but he started the Iraq War "without any lawful excuse of justification."

Bush's defense would be self-defense -- that he needed to carry out a preemptive strike on Saddam. But lying that Saddam possessed WMD and conspired with al Qaeda to commit 9/11 shows that Bush wasn't acting in self-defense, but, instead, in a criminal state of mind. Hence, every American killed as a result of his actions are murders on Bush's part.

In most states implied malice is second-degree murder. But, Bugliosi writes, "Bush's alleged crime is. . . on such a grand scale that it would greatly dishonor those. . . who paid the ultimate price because of it if he were not to pay the ultimate penalty."

In the interest of prosecuting Bush for first-degree murder, Bugliosi writes that a "very credible argument could be made that in a real sense he did intend to have American soldiers killed in his war."

Say what?

Bugliosi explains. A typical example of implied malice is a high-speed chase though a school zone, in which "not only didn't the defendant intend to kill, but he had no way of knowing whether someone would die or not. [But] while Bush never specifically intended to kill any American soldier, he absolutely knew American soldiers would necessarily die in his war." (Italics are Bulgiosi's.)

He continues. "Therefore, a case could be made that unless Bush intended to have a war without any casualties, which is. . . an argument that would make Bush sound absurd. . . he did, in fact, specifically intend to have American soldiers killed."

In other words, as everyone knows, in war, casualties come with the territory. If the "natural tendency" of an act is to take another's life, the law can't help but conclude that was intentional.

As for his chances of success, ". . . as a former prosecutor with twenty-one murder convictions without a loss. . . I am probably in a better position than the average person to know what type of evidence is necessary to go to trial with." If he's rusty, he sure doesn't sound like it. In fact, he's begun to arouse the interest of current prosecutors.

Much of the rest of The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder is given over to cataloging Bush's crimes. Bugliosi brings some to our attention that have gone unnoticed by many of us. For example, who remembers Hans Blix, UN weapons inspector, stating before the invasion that Iraq's cooperation in the inspections, "can be seen as active, even proactive"?
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Part 2 tomorrow.

For more on Bush & Co.'s crimes, see. . .
The 935 lies of George Bush (and friends) by Martin Bosworth
Mission accomplished, part deux by Dr. Slammy
Bush golfing again, says "long nat'l nightmare" over by Brad Jacobson
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 10:00 am
Without weighing in on whether it should happen or not, I don't think it's a case of if Bush will be charged with murder, but how long will it take after he leaves office.

Unless the incoming Pres gives him a blanket pardon, of course. Which would be kinda interesting in and of itself.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 10:04 am
Now as to the question of whether it should be done or not, I say "heck yeah."

IMO, even folks who revere Bush should feel the same.

Let him have his day in court and either get convicted or clear his name.

After all, what's he got to hide?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 10:33 am
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haul George Bush into a court of law


And give him a medal.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 11:13 am
H2O_MAN wrote:
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haul George Bush into a court of law


And give him a medal.

OK, let's hear it. For what, exactly, should he receive a medal?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 11:20 am
Sure, no problem.

President Bush has done an outstanding job of protecting this country
from any additional terrorist attacks and that is worthy of a medal.

If you disagree, then maybe you would prefer more bloodshed on our soil.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 11:27 am
H2O_MAN wrote:
Sure, no problem.

President Bush has done an outstanding job of protecting this country
from any additional terrorist attacks and that is worthy of a medal.

If you disagree, then maybe you would prefer more bloodshed on our soil.

Without debating the merits of your assertion, I'd like to know why someone deserves a medal for doing his job.

I did a nice job of installing a router the other day. Pin one on me.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 11:30 am
DrewDad wrote:
I did a nice job of installing a router the other day. Pin one on me.


So that's why the network is all ****** up.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 11:45 am
DrewDad wrote:
H2O_MAN wrote:
Sure, no problem.

President Bush has done an outstanding job of protecting this country
from any additional terrorist attacks and that is worthy of a medal.

If you disagree, then maybe you would prefer more bloodshed on our soil.

I'd like to know why someone deserves a medal for doing his job.


You agree that GW has done his job and done it well.

There is a glimmer of hope for DewDad after all Cool
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 12:18 pm
DrewDad wrote:
Without weighing in on whether it should happen or not, I don't think it's a case of if Bush will be charged with murder, but how long will it take after he leaves office.

Unless the incoming Pres gives him a blanket pardon, of course. Which would be kinda interesting in and of itself.


So, on one hand you say the President shouldn't be given a medal for doing his job, yet on the other hand you say he should be prosecuted for doing his job... That just doesn't make sense. But Bush hatred has never made much sense.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 12:27 pm
McGentrix wrote:
DrewDad wrote:
Without weighing in on whether it should happen or not, I don't think it's a case of if Bush will be charged with murder, but how long will it take after he leaves office.

Unless the incoming Pres gives him a blanket pardon, of course. Which would be kinda interesting in and of itself.


So, on one hand you say the President shouldn't be given a medal for doing his job, yet on the other hand you say he should be prosecuted for doing his job... That just doesn't make sense.

But Bush hatred has never made much sense.


Bingo !!
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 04:08 pm
McGentrix wrote:
So, on one hand you say the President shouldn't be given a medal for doing his job, yet on the other hand you say he should be prosecuted for doing his job...

That only works if you postulate that criminal acts are part of the President's job.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2008 05:58 am
Criminal acts describe the traitorous actions of the Democratic party in abandoning the troops and supporting numbnuts like Cindy Sheehan instead of the POTUS.

Hang 'em high.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2008 08:22 am
DrewDad wrote:
H2O_MAN wrote:
Sure, no problem.

President Bush has done an outstanding job of protecting this country
from any additional terrorist attacks and that is worthy of a medal.

If you disagree, then maybe you would prefer more bloodshed on our soil.

Without debating the merits of your assertion, I'd like to know why someone deserves a medal for doing his job.

I did a nice job of installing a router the other day. Pin one on me.


Then why do we give meals to cops and firefighters for valor?
Why does the military award medals?
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2008 08:35 am
mysteryman wrote:
DrewDad wrote:
H2O_MAN wrote:
Sure, no problem.

President Bush has done an outstanding job of protecting this country
from any additional terrorist attacks and that is worthy of a medal.

If you disagree, then maybe you would prefer more bloodshed on our soil.

Without debating the merits of your assertion, I'd like to know why someone deserves a medal for doing his job.

I did a nice job of installing a router the other day. Pin one on me.


Then why do we give meals [sic] to cops and firefighters for valor?
Why does the military award medals?

I think you answered your own question.

Noun 1. valor - the qualities of a hero or heroine; exceptional or heroic courage when facing danger (especially in battle); "he showed great heroism in battle"; "he received a medal for valor"
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2008 08:38 am
Dems and their ilk are obvious traitors to the United States and friends of our sworn Muslim enemies.

Once you understand that, you'll adopt my tactics toward the commie left here at A2K.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2008 08:41 am
DrewDad wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
DrewDad wrote:
H2O_MAN wrote:
Sure, no problem.

President Bush has done an outstanding job of protecting this country
from any additional terrorist attacks and that is worthy of a medal.

If you disagree, then maybe you would prefer more bloodshed on our soil.

Without debating the merits of your assertion, I'd like to know why someone deserves a medal for doing his job.

I did a nice job of installing a router the other day. Pin one on me.


Then why do we give meals [sic] to cops and firefighters for valor?
Why does the military award medals?

I think you answered your own question.

Noun 1. valor - the qualities of a hero or heroine; exceptional or heroic courage when facing danger (especially in battle); "he showed great heroism in battle"; "he received a medal for valor"


Showing valor is also part of the job.
A firefighter goes in when everyone else is running out.
Thats not valor, its a job description.

Why give a medal for doing your job?
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2008 08:42 am
cjhsa wrote:
Dems and their ilk are obvious traitors to the United States and friends of our sworn Muslim enemies.


Paranoia is a disturbed thought process characterized by excessive anxiety or fear, often to the point of irrationality and delusion. Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory beliefs concerning a perceived threat.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2008 08:43 am
You bet I'm paranoid - look who's SOTH you dimwit.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2008 08:55 am
mysteryman wrote:
DrewDad wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
DrewDad wrote:
H2O_MAN wrote:
Sure, no problem.

President Bush has done an outstanding job of protecting this country
from any additional terrorist attacks and that is worthy of a medal.

If you disagree, then maybe you would prefer more bloodshed on our soil.

Without debating the merits of your assertion, I'd like to know why someone deserves a medal for doing his job.

I did a nice job of installing a router the other day. Pin one on me.


Then why do we give meals [sic] to cops and firefighters for valor?
Why does the military award medals?

I think you answered your own question.

Noun 1. valor - the qualities of a hero or heroine; exceptional or heroic courage when facing danger (especially in battle); "he showed great heroism in battle"; "he received a medal for valor"


Showing valor is also part of the job.
A firefighter goes in when everyone else is running out.
Thats not valor, its a job description.

Why give a medal for doing your job?

So what has Bush done that's shows valor?

Thanks for helping me show the absurdity of H2O_MAN's assertion.
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