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Anthrax: All signs still point to Iraq and Saddam Hussein

 
 
Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 06:26 am
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2058470/posts?page=1

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1. FBI says they connected the anthrax mailings with Fort Detrick. But it didn't say such things earlier :

“The Federal Bureau of Investigation, suspecting that components from the Delta trainer might have been used to make the anthrax mailed in late 2001, examined the unit, officials and experts said. But investigators found no spores or other evidence linking it to the crime, they said.”

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE6DB133AF931A35754C0A9659C8B63

2. Dr Stephen Hatfill, wrongly suspected for years by FBI, met an ABC News reporter on October 2001 and told him that FBI was losing its time to suspect American scientists. Iraq was behind the anthrax mailings he said, and added he could prove it.

http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/Hatfill116-2.pdf

3. Former UNSCOM expert and ISG analyst Dr Richard Spertzel wrote to Laurie Mylroie that he too suspects Iraq to be behind the anthrax mailins : "To start, I have believed all along that Iraqi intelligence had their dirty hands on this event. Based on ISG findings that Iraq had apparently decided in 1994 to not attempt production, but rather only research to enhance "break-out" capability and that the Iraqi and Syrian intelligence services had formed an alliance to develop the field "in chemical and biological of mutual interest," I now suspect that Syria made the anthrax product with Iraqi Intelligence assistance."

http://www.lauriemylroie.com/files/Spertzel_on_Shoham_Jacobsen2.htm

4. 3. The people behind the anthrax mailings may be connected to Iraq or former Soviet Union, according to the International Journal of Intelligence and Counter-Intelligence, March 2007 issue. Experts reviewing the case wrote that the Fort Detrick's lead was "futile" :

"Relying, apparently, on concrete findings, former top U.S. weapons inspector Dr. David Kay said that "the Iraqis had developed new techniques for drying anthrax - techniques that were superior to anything the United States or the old Soviet Union had. That would make the former regime of Saddam Hussein the most sophisticated manufacturer of anthrax in the world." 58 Somewhat disturbingly, Dr. Kay did not - probably intentionally - give more details about his statement, not mentioning any additive applied for the Iraqi techniques, such as silica or, possibly, siloxane binder, or any foreign contributors - Russian, Danish, or another. Yet, even independently of Kay's remarkable statement, the vitality of such an exceptional Iraqi capability may presumably lie within an effective Iraqi-made integration of the various predominant essentials presented and discussed. And beyond anthrax, a notable collateral outcome of that integration was that silica gel was indeed being used by Iraq to aid in the dispersability of wheat smut spores, an anti-cultivar fungal biological warfare agent then held by Iraq.

Comparatively, the FBI's domestically originated-SSP hypothesis turned out to be futile. Slowly and steadily, it is perishing.59 Particularly, that the view that the old U.S. Army anthrax stockpile was not silica-based, while the fineness of various aerosols of anthrax spores - including Ames - applied by the U.S. Army for experimental infection studies after the U.S. biological weapons arsenal had been eliminated - even if including spray-dried spore powders containing silica - did not at all equal the quality of the SSP."

http://newsdetails.blogspot.com/2007/05/technical-intelligence-in-retrospect.html

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parados
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 06:49 am
One thing is for certain.

Freepers are stupid people that prefer to ignore facts whenever possible.
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 06:56 am
parados wrote:
One thing is for certain.

Freepers are stupid people that prefer to ignore facts whenever possible.


Gunga and his friends live in Bizarro World. They only believe the opposite of the truth. It's amazing how dense and blind these people insist on being. The world and everyone in it is out to get them - it's actually as narcissistic as it paranoid. Sad.
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 07:10 am
I find it funny that in 2007 Freepers are still relying on information from Matsumoto that was known to be inaccurate in 2003.

http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/coatings.html

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But the facts are really quite clear. It's only when you start interpreting and misinterpreting things and speculating about what disagreements may mean that you get to where Matsumoto stands. His article in Science is really a political document, not a scientific document.


...So, if your political agenda says that the spores must have been made by some illegal U.S. government program or by Iraq, then you want the spores to be coated.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 07:19 am
Quote:
1. FBI says they connected the anthrax mailings with Fort Detrick. But it didn't say such things earlier :

“The Federal Bureau of Investigation, suspecting that components from the Delta trainer might have been used to make the anthrax mailed in late 2001, examined the unit, officials and experts said. But investigators found no spores or other evidence linking it to the crime, they said.”



I doubt that Gunga is capable of integrating actual facts into his world view, but new DNA tests are what allowed them to revisit Ft. Detrick.

(Pssst. Gunga. You do know that investigators hold onto to evidence for decades, right? This is how, for example, a number of folks have proven their innocence.)

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/08/07/ap5299827.html

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Investigators at the FBI and U.S. Postal Service originally thought al-Qaida may have been behind the attacks. The case "quickly became a global investigation, spanning six continents," said Joseph Persichini, assistant director of the FBI's Washington field office. It wasn't long, though, before the government began focusing on one man, Fort Detrick scientist Steven Hatfill. It would be years before DNA technology narrowed the field to Ivins and a handful of others who had access to a specific batch of anthrax.
...
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 08:06 am
Too busy drinking Kool-Ade to notice the problem with a US govt. agent perpetrating an anthrax attack in such a way as to have the first several deaths occur within ten or twelve miles of where the 9-11 jackers were living and time the whole thing out to within weeks of the 9-11 attack....
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 08:24 am
I understand that you are not familiar with "coincidence."
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 09:47 am
I believe in the basic laws of mathematics and probability if that's what you mean....
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 09:51 am
parados wrote:

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Try this...

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parados
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 10:06 am
gungasnake wrote:
Too busy drinking Kool-Ade to notice the problem with a US govt. agent perpetrating an anthrax attack in such a way as to have the first several deaths occur within ten or twelve miles of where the 9-11 jackers were living and time the whole thing out to within weeks of the 9-11 attack....


That is too funny gunga..

First death Boca Raton Florida. (Where a letter was actually sent)
The next 2 deaths occur in Washington DC (postal workers)
The fourth death is in NYC.
The fifth and last death is in Oxford Connecticut.


You might want to get out an atlas gunga or did you spill you Kool-Ade on it?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 10:12 am
I wonder what gunga thinks about the fact that several of the 9/11 hijackers spent a few weeks aboard a casino ship owned by Jack Abramoff, directly before committing their crime?

Why, the GOP must have been behind the whole thing!!!?!?!?!!!!

Cycloptichorn
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 10:16 am
gungasnake wrote:
Laughing
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 10:35 am
gungasnake wrote:
I believe in the basic laws of mathematics and probability if that's what you mean....

If so, you have not demonstrated that proficiency to anyone on this message board.
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