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Anthrax Scientist Suicide as FBI

 
 
Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 05:17 am
Anthrax scientist commits suicide as FBI closes in By LARA JAKES JORDAN and DAVID DISHNEAU, Associated Press Writers
Fri Aug 1, 3:57 AM ET



WASHINGTON - A top U.S. biodefense researcher apparently committed suicide just as the Justice Department was about to file criminal charges against him in the anthrax mailings that traumatized the nation in the weeks following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, according to a published report.

The scientist, Bruce E. Ivins, 62, who worked for the past 18 years at the government's biodefense labs at Fort Detrick, Md., had been told about the impending prosecution, the Los Angeles Times reported for Friday editions. The laboratory has been at the center of the FBI's investigation of the anthrax attacks, which killed five people.

Ivins died Tuesday at Frederick Memorial Hospital in Maryland. The Times, quoting an unidentified colleague, said the scientist had taken a massive dose of a prescription Tylenol mixed with codeine.

Tom Ivins, a brother of the scientist, told The Associated Press that another of his brothers, Charles, told him Bruce had committed suicide.

A woman who answered the phone at Charles Ivins' home in Etowah, N.C., refused to wake him and declined to comment on his death. "This is a grieving time," she said.

A woman who answered the phone at Bruce Ivins' home in Frederick declined to comment.

Justice Department spokesman Peter Carr and FBI Assistant Director John Miller declined to comment on the report.

Henry S. Heine, a scientist who had worked with Ivins on inhalation anthrax research at Fort Detrick, said he and others on their team have testified before a federal grand jury in Washington that has been investigating the anthrax mailings for more than a year.

Heine declined to comment on Ivins' death.

Norman Covert, a retired Fort Detrick spokesman who served with Ivins on an animal-care and protocol committee, said Ivins was "a very intent guy" at their meetings.

Ivins was the co-author of numerous anthrax studies, including one on a treatment for inhalation anthrax published in the July 7 issue of the journal Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy.

Just last month, the government exonerated another scientist at the Fort Detrick lab, Steven Hatfill, who had been identified by the FBI as a "person of interest" in the anthrax attacks. The government paid Hatfill $5.82 million to settle a lawsuit he filed against the Justice Department in which he claimed the department violated his privacy rights by speaking with reporters about the case.

The Times said federal investigators moved away from Hatfill and concluded Ivins was the culprit after FBI Director Robert Mueller changed leadership of the investigation in 2006. The new investigators instructed agents to re-examine leads and reconsider potential suspects. In the meantime, investigators made progress in analyzing anthrax powder recovered from letters addressed to two U.S. senators, according to the report.

Besides the five deaths, 17 people were sickened by anthrax that was mailed to lawmakers on Capitol Hill and members of the news media in New York and Florida just weeks after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The victims included postal workers and others who came into contact with the anthrax.

In the six months following the anthrax mailings, Ivins conducted unauthorized testing for anthrax spores outside containment areas at USAMRIID ?- the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick ?- and found some, according to an internal report by the U.S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command, which oversees the lab.

In December 2001, after conducting tests triggered by a technician's fears that she had been exposed, Ivins found evidence of anthrax and decontaminated the woman's desk, computer, keypad and monitor, but didn't notify his superiors, according to the report.

The report says Ivins performed more unauthorized sampling on April 15, 2002, and found anthrax spores in his office, in a passbox used for moving materials in and out of labs, and in a room where male workers changed from civilian clothing into laboratory garb.

Ivins told Army investigators he conducted unauthorized tests because he was worried that the powdered anthrax in letters that had been sent to USAMRIID for analysis might not have been adequately contained.

In January 2002, the FBI doubled the reward for helping solve the case to $2.5 million, and by June officials said the agency was scrutinizing 20 to 30 scientists who might have had the knowledge and opportunity to send the anthrax letters.

After the government's settlement with Hatfill was announced in late June, Ivins started showing signs of strain, the Times said. It quoted a longtime colleague as saying Ivins was being treated for depression and indicated to a therapist that he was considering suicide. Family members and local police escorted Ivins away from the Army lab, and his access to sensitive areas was curtailed, the colleague told the newspaper. He said Ivins was facing a forced retirement in September.

The colleague declined to be identified out of concern that he would be harassed by the FBI, the report said.

Ivins was one of the nation's leading biodefense researchers.

In 2003, Ivins and two of his colleagues at the USAMRIID received the highest honor given to Defense Department civilian employees for helping solve technical problems in the manufacture of anthrax vaccine.

In 1997, U.S. military personnel began receiving the vaccine to protect against a possible biological attack. Within months, a number of vaccine lots failed a potency test required by federal regulators, causing a shortage of vaccine and eventually halting the immunization program. The USAMRIID team's work led to the reapproval of the vaccine for human use.

The Times said Ivins was the son of a Princeton-educated pharmacist who was born and raised in Lebanon, Ohio. He received undergraduate and graduate degrees, including a Ph.D. in microbiology, from the University of Cincinnati.

He and his wife, Diane, owned a home just outside the main gate to Fort Detrick.

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Dishneau reported from Hagerstown, Md.
 
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 02:25 pm
I thought this article says it best about the case.

An Unsatisfying End to the Anthrax Attacks Mystery

By Kevin Whitelaw
Posted August 1, 2008
Nearly seven years after a series of anthrax attacks unnerved a nation still jittery from September 11, there finally appears to be some resolution to the question of who was behind the mysterious, deadly envelopes.

Bruce Ivins, a leading U.S. military anthrax researcher, apparently committed suicide this week as federal investigators were reportedly preparing to indict him on charges of staging the attacks on several Capitol Hill offices and news organizations.

The ending might be unsatisfying to those who wanted to see the mastermind hauled into court and hear his motivations explained. But it also could help close the book on a puzzling, for a time terrifying, incident that threatened to paralyze a vulnerable nation in a state of fear.

After tainted envelopes were discovered on Capitol Hill and in several newsrooms in October 2001, the sight of hazmat teams clad in puffy space suits and gas masks became a common spectacle on the evening news. Several Senate offices were closed for months, along with a Washington postal sorting facility where two employees died from contamination.

The appearance of white powder (whether from anthrax or the powdered sugar from a doughnut) routinely triggered evacuations and quarantines. In mailrooms across the country, workers began wearing gloves and masks. And the federal government started irradiating all incoming mail, delaying delivery and turning letters into yellowed, crispy wafers. Some even worried that the entire U.S. Postal Service might have to shut down.

At the time, U.S. News quoted magazine editor Geoff Van Dyke, who watched as New York police and the National Guard sealed off his street, as saying, "What is this world coming to? Will this ever end?"

Many, unsurprisingly, were quick to blame al Qaeda, which a month earlier had managed to destroy the World Trade Center. And Osama bin Laden has remained a top suspect in the minds of many.

But there was never any proof of al Qaeda's involvement, and the FBI, which some have accused of botching the case, has long focused most of its attention on government scientists. For a while, the bureau named Steven Hatfill as a "person of interest." Hatfill, a former colleague of Ivins at the Fort Detrick biodefense laboratory, was later awarded $5.82 million after he sued the U.S. government for falsely accusing him of staging the attacks.

More recently, it appears that FBI investigators had turned their attention to other scientists, including Ivins. No formal indictment has been released, although reports say that prosecutors were planning to seek the death penalty. It remains unclear whether any other scientists were believed to be involved.

The FBI reportedly has had Ivins under intense scrutiny for more than a year. His lawyer told the Associated Press that the scientist had cooperated with investigators. "We are saddened by his death and disappointed that we will not have the opportunity to defend his good name and reputation in a court of law," attorney Paul F. Kemp said. "We assert his innocence in these killings and would have established that at trial."

Given the high profile of the case?-and the unexpected twist of Ivins's death?-the Justice Department will likely need to make its evidence public in some manner and respond to doubters that it had finally found the right suspect.

Still, Ivins's death may mean that questions about how and why the attack was staged will never be fully answered.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 09:14 pm
The evidence tying Saddam Hussein and the 9-11 hijackers to the anthrax attacks is overwhelming. For anybody else to be involved, they'd have to have been in on the 9-11 attack itself.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 09:42 pm
Aw, ****, gunga. Do you really believe that, or are you just trying to make conservatives look stupid?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 05:27 am
gunga continues to demonstrate that the threshold of proof that he accepts is remarkeably low.

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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 07:30 am
Gunga is a dead snake walking.


The new site has an ignore feature....and a mad snake button....
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 07:38 am
dlowan wrote:
Gunga is a dead snake walking.


The new site has an ignore feature....and a mad snake button....


But if we ignore gunga - Where to look for such jocularity?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 07:40 am
edgarblythe wrote:
dlowan wrote:
Gunga is a dead snake walking.


The new site has an ignore feature....and a mad snake button....


But if we ignore gunga - Where to look for such jocularity?


Erm...people with a functioning brain?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 07:44 am
But, if we ignore him, he might ignore us !!!?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 04:58 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
But, if we ignore him, he might ignore us !!!?


One can only hope.
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babsatamelia
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 09:32 pm
Tell me please, you don't really honestly believe this crap we're being fed, do you? These little attempts by the Bush admin. to pull together all of the extremely loose strands of the fabrication that has been constructed to make Americans believe we live in a constant state of terrorism? They are so pitifully late and so useless.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 3 Aug, 2008 12:46 am
Somebody would have to work a whole lot harder than they have to prove this newest piece of bullshit to me. You still have those first anthrax cases turning up ten miles from where the 9-11 jackers were staying and the first case that of a husband of a lady renting a room to one of them.

I mean, you either believe in the laws of probability and mathematics oryou don't.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sun 3 Aug, 2008 09:45 am
Anthrax Scientist's Therapist Was "Scared To Death&quot
Anthrax Scientist's Therapist Was "Scared To Death" Of Him, Says Scientist Tried To Poison People
by DAVID DISHNEAU and LARA JAKES JORDAN
New York Times
August 3, 2008

FREDERICK, Md. ?- Bruce E. Ivins, the late microbiologist suspected in the 2001 anthrax attacks, had attempted to poison people and his therapist said she was "scared to death" of him, according to court testimony that emerged Saturday.

Social worker Jean Duley testified at a court hearing in Frederick on July 24 in a successful bid for a protective order from Ivins _ who five days later committed suicide _ that he "actually attempted to murder several other people."

Ivins took a fatal dose of Tylonel as federal authorities monitored his movements and prepared to charge him with the murder of five people who died from anthrax poisonining in the weeks after the Sept. 2001 terror attacks.

An audio recording of the court session was obtained by The New York Times and posted it on its Web site. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/us/03anthrax.htm

"As far back as the year 2000, the respondent has actually attempted to murder several other people, either through poisoning. He is a revenge killer. When he feels that he's been slighted or has had _ especially toward women _ he plots and actually tries to carry out revenge killings," Duley said.

She added that Ivins "has been forensically diagnosed by several top psychiatrists as a sociopathic, homicidal killer. I have that in evidence. And through my working with him, I also believe that to be very true."

Ivins, 62, who worked at an Army biodefense laboratory at Fort Detrick, took his own life Tuesday as federal authorities were closing in after investigating him for more than a year in connection with the deaths of five people poisoned by anthrax sent through the mail.

Answers to one of the nation's highest profile unsolved mysteries are in documents that could be released as early as this week _ and help explain how the government chased the wrong suspect for years.

Prosecutors were mulling this weekend whether to close the anthrax poisoning investigation, possibly as early as Monday or Tuesday. If that happens, court documents detailing newly developed scientific evidence that recently led the government to Ivins may be unsealed.

Five people died and 17 others were sickened when anthrax-laced letters began showing up at congressional offices, newsrooms and post offices soon after Sept. 11, 2001.

After wrongly investigating Army scientist Steven Hatfill, the FBI more than a year ago began looking at Ivins, who worked at the same military lab. Ivins, a decorated scientist who was working on an anthrax cure, killed himself last Tuesday.

Two U.S. officials said victims and their survivors could be briefed as early as Tuesday on the final piece of the bioterrorism attacks that confounded the government.

The Justice Department attributed the break in the case to "new and sophisticated scientific tools" that cost the FBI about $10 million. Investigators said the science focused, in part, on how the anthrax strains were handled and who had access to it at the time of the mailings.

FBI scientists were able to isolate strains used in the attacks, and determined they were not as common as previously thought. And that led investigators to Ivins.

Had the same process been available years ago, it would have cleared Hatfill much earlier, according to two people familiar with the FBI investigation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the case is not officially closed.

The Army refused Saturday to say whether it had been reviewing the security clearance of the chief suspect in the anthrax attacks who had mental problems and killed himself as federal prosecutors were planning to indict him.

Ivins was removed from his lab in Maryland by police on July 10 and temporarily hospitalized, according to court records, because it was feared that he was a danger to himself and others. But it was unclear whether he was still employed by the lab at the time of his death Tuesday.

That raises the question of whether Ivins still had his security clearance and, if so, how he kept it, given that his social worker said Ivins had been viewed as homicidal and sociopathic by his psychiatrist.

Army spokesman Paul Boyce declined to comment on Ivins' case.

Boyce didn't respond to a question on what type of clearance microbiologists at the lab would have to hold.

David R. Franz, a former commander of the Army's lab biological warfare labs at Fort Detrick, Md., where Ivins worked, said Saturday he thought it was "very important that the FBI present their case against Bruce and not just state that the investigation was over because it was him and he's gone."

Franz added, "I'm concerned about what closing this case without conclusive evidence might do to harm our life sciences enterprise. ... I think we as Americans need to see the proof."

Initially, FBI profilers said they probably were looking for a loner with a scientific background. Maybe he had a grudge against the lawmakers and news organizations. Investigators also considered possible links to al-Qaida, the terrorist group behind the 9/11 attacks.

Intensive focus initially settled on Hatfill, who for years accused the government of unfairly targeting him. In late June, the government exonerated Hatfill and paid him a $5.82 million settlement.

With that, the government seemed no closer to solving the "Amerithrax" mystery. But, quietly, investigators were closing in on a different scientist, Ivins.

A murder indictment and the possibility of the death penalty could have produced a high-profile climax to the case. Shadowed by the FBI, Ivins died Tuesday from a Tylenol overdose, leaving the probe in limbo and a nation seeking answers.

"It's a shame the man is not here with us. We might have known more," said Maureen Stevens, whose husband, Bob, was the first anthrax victim.

Former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota, said: "I think the FBI owes us a complete accounting of their investigation and ought to be able to tell us at some point, how we're going to bring this to closure." Daschle's office received a letter containing the deadly white powder in 2001.

Among the unanswered questions is why the anthrax was sent. The FBI was investigating whether Ivins, renowned for his work developing anthrax vaccines and treatment, released the toxin to test those cures. Ivins was one of several scientists named in an application for a vaccine patent 18 months before the attacks.

Another puzzle is what finally led the FBI to focus on Ivins a year or so ago. Ivins attracted some attention for conducting unauthorized anthrax testing in the six months following the anthrax mailings, but the FBI focus stayed on Hatfill.

As Ivins' name emerged, so did a portrait of a conflicted, troubled man. His friends knew him as the man who played the keyboard at church, a Red Cross volunteer who was an avid juggler and gardener.

Others saw a darker side. Police recently removed him from work, fearing he was a danger to himself or others. Social worker Duley filed for a restraining order in a Maryland court.

"Client has a history dating to his graduate days of homicidal threats, plans and actions towards therapists," Duley wrote in court documents last week, adding that his psychiatrist had described him as homicidal and sociopathic.

Ivins' brother, Tom Ivins, said he had not spoken to Bruce Ivins since 1985, but acknowledged the possibility his brother may have been the anthrax mailer.

"It makes sense, what the social worker said," Tom Ivins said. "He considered himself like a god."

Ivins' lawyer, Paul F. Kemp, asserted the scientist's innocence and said he would have proved it at trial. Kemp said his client's death was the result of the government's "relentless pressure of accusation and innuendo."

Maryland's chief medical examiner, Dr. David Fowler, confirmed Saturday that Ivins died Tuesday morning at Frederick, Md., Memorial Hospital; that the cause of death was found to be an overdose of acetaminophen, the active drug in Tylenol; and that it was ruled a suicide based on information from police and doctors.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 3 Aug, 2008 09:49 am
http://hometown.aol.com/vesnan/BullShit.gif
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 3 Aug, 2008 09:50 am
Re: Anthrax Scientist's Therapist Was "Scared To Death&
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
Anthrax Scientist's Therapist Was "Scared To Death" Of Him, Says Scientist Tried To Poison People
by DAVID DISHNEAU and LARA JAKES JORDAN
New York Times
August 3, 2008

FREDERICK, Md. ?- Bruce E. Ivins, the late microbiologist suspected in the 2001 anthrax attacks, had attempted to poison people and his therapist said she was "scared to death" of him, according to court testimony that emerged Saturday.

Social worker Jean Duley testified at a court hearing in Frederick on July 24 in a successful bid for a protective order from Ivins _ who five days later committed suicide _ that he "actually attempted to murder several other people."

Ivins took a fatal dose of Tylonel as federal authorities monitored his movements and prepared to charge him with the murder of five people who died from anthrax poisonining in the weeks after the Sept. 2001 terror attacks.

An audio recording of the court session was obtained by The New York Times and posted it on its Web site. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/us/03anthrax.htm

"As far back as the year 2000, the respondent has actually attempted to murder several other people, either through poisoning. He is a revenge killer. When he feels that he's been slighted or has had _ especially toward women _ he plots and actually tries to carry out revenge killings," Duley said.

She added that Ivins "has been forensically diagnosed by several top psychiatrists as a sociopathic, homicidal killer. I have that in evidence. And through my working with him, I also believe that to be very true."

Ivins, 62, who worked at an Army biodefense laboratory at Fort Detrick, took his own life Tuesday as federal authorities were closing in after investigating him for more than a year in connection with the deaths of five people poisoned by anthrax sent through the mail.

Answers to one of the nation's highest profile unsolved mysteries are in documents that could be released as early as this week _ and help explain how the government chased the wrong suspect for years.

Prosecutors were mulling this weekend whether to close the anthrax poisoning investigation, possibly as early as Monday or Tuesday. If that happens, court documents detailing newly developed scientific evidence that recently led the government to Ivins may be unsealed.

Five people died and 17 others were sickened when anthrax-laced letters began showing up at congressional offices, newsrooms and post offices soon after Sept. 11, 2001.

After wrongly investigating Army scientist Steven Hatfill, the FBI more than a year ago began looking at Ivins, who worked at the same military lab. Ivins, a decorated scientist who was working on an anthrax cure, killed himself last Tuesday.

Two U.S. officials said victims and their survivors could be briefed as early as Tuesday on the final piece of the bioterrorism attacks that confounded the government.

The Justice Department attributed the break in the case to "new and sophisticated scientific tools" that cost the FBI about $10 million. Investigators said the science focused, in part, on how the anthrax strains were handled and who had access to it at the time of the mailings.

FBI scientists were able to isolate strains used in the attacks, and determined they were not as common as previously thought. And that led investigators to Ivins.

Had the same process been available years ago, it would have cleared Hatfill much earlier, according to two people familiar with the FBI investigation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the case is not officially closed.

The Army refused Saturday to say whether it had been reviewing the security clearance of the chief suspect in the anthrax attacks who had mental problems and killed himself as federal prosecutors were planning to indict him.

Ivins was removed from his lab in Maryland by police on July 10 and temporarily hospitalized, according to court records, because it was feared that he was a danger to himself and others. But it was unclear whether he was still employed by the lab at the time of his death Tuesday.

That raises the question of whether Ivins still had his security clearance and, if so, how he kept it, given that his social worker said Ivins had been viewed as homicidal and sociopathic by his psychiatrist.

Army spokesman Paul Boyce declined to comment on Ivins' case.

Boyce didn't respond to a question on what type of clearance microbiologists at the lab would have to hold.

David R. Franz, a former commander of the Army's lab biological warfare labs at Fort Detrick, Md., where Ivins worked, said Saturday he thought it was "very important that the FBI present their case against Bruce and not just state that the investigation was over because it was him and he's gone."

Franz added, "I'm concerned about what closing this case without conclusive evidence might do to harm our life sciences enterprise. ... I think we as Americans need to see the proof."

Initially, FBI profilers said they probably were looking for a loner with a scientific background. Maybe he had a grudge against the lawmakers and news organizations. Investigators also considered possible links to al-Qaida, the terrorist group behind the 9/11 attacks.

Intensive focus initially settled on Hatfill, who for years accused the government of unfairly targeting him. In late June, the government exonerated Hatfill and paid him a $5.82 million settlement.

With that, the government seemed no closer to solving the "Amerithrax" mystery. But, quietly, investigators were closing in on a different scientist, Ivins.

A murder indictment and the possibility of the death penalty could have produced a high-profile climax to the case. Shadowed by the FBI, Ivins died Tuesday from a Tylenol overdose, leaving the probe in limbo and a nation seeking answers.

"It's a shame the man is not here with us. We might have known more," said Maureen Stevens, whose husband, Bob, was the first anthrax victim.

Former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota, said: "I think the FBI owes us a complete accounting of their investigation and ought to be able to tell us at some point, how we're going to bring this to closure." Daschle's office received a letter containing the deadly white powder in 2001.

Among the unanswered questions is why the anthrax was sent. The FBI was investigating whether Ivins, renowned for his work developing anthrax vaccines and treatment, released the toxin to test those cures. Ivins was one of several scientists named in an application for a vaccine patent 18 months before the attacks.

Another puzzle is what finally led the FBI to focus on Ivins a year or so ago. Ivins attracted some attention for conducting unauthorized anthrax testing in the six months following the anthrax mailings, but the FBI focus stayed on Hatfill.

As Ivins' name emerged, so did a portrait of a conflicted, troubled man. His friends knew him as the man who played the keyboard at church, a Red Cross volunteer who was an avid juggler and gardener.

Others saw a darker side. Police recently removed him from work, fearing he was a danger to himself or others. Social worker Duley filed for a restraining order in a Maryland court.

"Client has a history dating to his graduate days of homicidal threats, plans and actions towards therapists," Duley wrote in court documents last week, adding that his psychiatrist had described him as homicidal and sociopathic.

Ivins' brother, Tom Ivins, said he had not spoken to Bruce Ivins since 1985, but acknowledged the possibility his brother may have been the anthrax mailer.

"It makes sense, what the social worker said," Tom Ivins said. "He considered himself like a god."

Ivins' lawyer, Paul F. Kemp, asserted the scientist's innocence and said he would have proved it at trial. Kemp said his client's death was the result of the government's "relentless pressure of accusation and innuendo."

Maryland's chief medical examiner, Dr. David Fowler, confirmed Saturday that Ivins died Tuesday morning at Frederick, Md., Memorial Hospital; that the cause of death was found to be an overdose of acetaminophen, the active drug in Tylenol; and that it was ruled a suicide based on information from police and doctors.


It's hard to make up bullshit like that.
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 02:54 am
gungasnake wrote:


I mean, you either believe in the laws of probability and mathematics oryou don't.


gunga, the laws of probability really don't support your conclusions, which could just as easily be chalked up to mere coincidence.
And don't you really think the government would have loved to pin the anthrax attacks on the same people involved in 9/11, if they could? But the government couldn't find or substantiate the connections which you seem to think are so obvious.

Based on the little evidence disclosed thus far, I'm not convinced that Dr. Ivins did it either. There really is lack of a substantial motive on his part. There is also the fact that Dr. Ivins research involved working with Anthrax in liquid form, and his colleagues have said they are not aware that he had the ability to convert it to a powdered substance. If true, that's a very big missing link in this puzzle, and a big missing link in the evidence against him. I want the F.B.I. to release all of the evidence they had against Ivins, so the public can scrutinize it and judge for themselves.

I don't doubt that having the F.B.I. hound him for the past year of his life may have caused Ivins to psychologically crack up--whether or not he was guilty of the anthrax attacks. In the few weeks before his death he clearly was a danger to himself and others. One wonders why they would have been so fast to release him from a psychiatric hospital after he had made clear specific death threats during his outpatient group therapy, but they don't appear to have kept him in the hospital very long at all. Did the F.B.I. have anything to do with that decision? Did they want him out of the hospital in order to be able to better continue their surveillance or investigation?

I'm not sure I entirely believe some of the assertions put forth about Ivins. Things like:

Quote:
"Client has a history dating to his graduate days of homicidal threats, plans and actions towards therapists,"


and

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"As far back as the year 2000, the respondent has actually attempted to murder several other people, either through poisoning. He is a revenge killer...he plots and actually tries to carry out revenge killings"


If such statements are true, why was Ivins not arrested, charged, and convicted for such actions at the time they occurred? And, why the hell, was the government employing a known homicidal individual--and giving him a high level security clearance? If this information about Ivins was available, why didn't anyone, including the government, take some action against him at the time? It makes no sense.

Some might see Ivins suicide as an admission of guilt on the part of a man who felt cornered and trapped by the F.B.I. Others might see an innocent man who was humiliated, and literally hounded to death, by the F.B.I.

In either case, Ivins death will likely leave many unanswered questions regarding this case. But, if the F.B.I. does not release all of the information they do have against Ivins, that will raise even more questions about how they were handling this investigation, and whether they were simply targeting yet another, possibly innocent, government scientist. For the sake of Ivins reputation, as well as the peace of mind of the public, the F.B.I. should release all the information they have.
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Stray Cat
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 09:22 pm
firefly, your posts are always so knowledgeable and well-informed. Are there any particular news publications you read on a regular basis (and can recommend?).

You always seem to have a well balanced view of the issues.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 12:52 pm
gungasnake wrote:
Somebody would have to work a whole lot harder than they have to prove this newest piece of bullshit to me. You still have those first anthrax cases turning up ten miles from where the 9-11 jackers were staying and the first case that of a husband of a lady renting a room to one of them.

I mean, you either believe in the laws of probability and mathematics oryou don't.



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Documents: FBI Searched Home, Lab in Anthrax Case
DOJ Outlines Its Case Against Army Scientist Bruce Ivins Who Committed Suicide Last Week

By LARA JAKES JORDAN and MATT APUZZO
WASHINGTON August 6, 2008 (AP)

Army scientist Bruce Ivins had custody of highly purified anthrax spores with "certain genetic mutations identical" to the poison that killed five and rattled the nation in 2001, according to documents unsealed Wednesday in the government's investigation.

Also, Ivins was unable to give investigators "an adequate explanation for his late laboratory work hours around the time of" the attacks, and he apparently sought to mislead investigators on the case, according to an affidavit filed by one government investigator.

The scientist committed suicide last week as investigators were preparing to charge him with murder in the 2001 attacks. The documents were released as the FBI held a private briefing for families of the victims of the episode, and officials said the agency was preparing to close the case.

The events in Washington unfolded as a memorial service was held for Ivins at Fort Detrick, the secret government installation in Frederick, Md., where he worked. Reporters were barred.

The documents disclose that authorities searched Ivins' home on Nov. 2, 2007, taking 22 swabs of vacuum filters and radiators and seizing dozens of items. Among them were video cassettes, family photos, information about guns and a copy of "The Plague" by Albert Camus.


They also reported seizing three cardboard boxes labeled "Paul Kemp ... attorney client privilege."

Ivins' cars and his safe deposit box also were searched as investigators closed in on the respected government scientist who had been troubled by mental health problems for years.

According to an affidavit filed by Charles B. Wickersham, a postal inspector, the scientist told an unnamed co-worker "that he had `incredible paranoid, delusional thoughts at times' and 'feared that he might not be able to control his behavior.'"

A mental health worker who was involved in treating Ivins disclosed last week that she was so concerned about his behavior that she recently sought a court order to keep him away from her.
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 02:03 pm
Thank you, Walter. The man was never convicted, but, I think we can lay the case to rest now.
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I do not agree. This is a rush to judgment. There are still too many unanswered questions in this case. It is based on circumstantial evidence which I do not find overwhelmingly convincing. If I were on a jury, and this was the evidence presented to me, I would not find him guilty. I think much of this "evidence" would be discredited under cross-examination at trial.


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New York Times
August 7, 2008
Officials Say Documents Tie Scientist to Anthrax Attack
By DAVID STOUT and ERIC LICHTBLAU

WASHINGTON ?- A few days before the anthrax attacks of 2001, the scientist who has emerged as the suspect in the case sent e-mails with wording that was sometimes identical to the language used in deadly anthrax-laced letters that autumn, according to documents released by the government on Wednesday.

Moreover, the government said, the scientist, Dr. Bruce E. Ivins, was the sole custodian as a microbiologist at Fort Detrick, Md., of the particular strain of anthrax used in the attacks, although he was not the sole person with access to that anthrax.

The e-mails, whose recipients were not revealed, warned that Osama bin Laden's "terrorists for sure have anthrax and sarin gas" and have "just decreed death to all Jews and all Americans," according to the documents.

The documents, released on the orders of a federal judge, were made public to bolster the Justice Department's contention that Dr. Ivins was the only person behind the mailings that killed five people and made at least 17 others ill while the country was still traumatized by the Sept. 11 attacks.

The government's assertion was disputed by the lawyers representing Dr. Ivins, who issued a statement labeling a Justice Department news briefing "an orchestrated dance of carefully worded statements, heaps of innuendo and staggering lack of real evidence ?- all contorted to create the illusion of guilt by Dr. Ivins."

Other expressions of doubt, plus the memory of the Justice Department's stumble in focusing on another scientist early in the investigation, made it likely that the anthrax case will be debated for a long time, especially now that the sole suspect is dead.

The document segment about the e-mails points out that the wording in them was similar, and in some instances identical, to the language in the anthrax-laced letters. "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" were phrases that appeared both in the doctor's e-mails and in the letters.

Moreover, the envelopes that held the letters were "federal eagle" envelopes, so-named because of the eagle perched on a bar bearing the initials "USA" in the upper right-hand corner. About 45 million of the pre-stamped envelopes were made by a Pennsylvania company between late 2000 and early 2002, and some bore tiny but tell-tale printing defects. Investigators traced those to the Dulles Stamp Distribution Office in Virginia , which serves post offices in Maryland or Virginia, the official documents relate.

And of the 16 government, commercial and university laboratories that had virulent anthrax strains like the one used in the deadly mailings, only one was located in Maryland or Virginia ?- the Fort Detrick lab where Dr. Ivins worked before his July 29 suicide, the documents say.

In addition, searches of Dr. Ivins's home in Frederick, Md., turned up "hundreds" of similar letters that had not yet been sent to media outlets and members of Congress, people who were briefed by the F.B.I. on Wednesday said. Those people said investigators found that Dr. Ivins sometimes kept odd, night-time hours in the lab, explaining that he was trying to escape troubles at home, and that he would sometimes drive to mailboxes miles out of his way.

"Ivins has been unable to give investigators an adequate explanation for his late night laboratory work hours around the time" of the mailings, the documents say. And around that time, Dr. Ivins was suffering from "incredible paranoid, delusional thoughts at times," in the doctor's own words to a colleague, and feared that he might not be able to control his own behavior, the documents go on.

The material released Wednesday is meant to bolster the F.B.I.'s circumstantial case against Dr. Ivins, who by many accounts had descended into paranoia and despair before he took his own life. Justice Department officials asserted at a news conference on Wednesday afternoon that they were confident Dr. Ivins was the mailer ?- an assertion that has been disputed by his chief lawyer, Paul F. Kemp of the Venable law firm.

"The government would have the American people believe that after seven years and more than $15 million of taxpayer money, they have found the individual responsible for the heinous attacks of the fall of 2001," Mr. Kemp said in his law firm's statement. "Nothing could be farther from the truth. In truth, Bruce Ivins was a devoted husband and father who worked for more than 30 years to defend his nation and its soldiers against the terrible effects of anthrax. The statements of scientists and co-workers at Fort Detrick are uniform in their support of Dr. Ivins, and that has been gratifying to his family."

But prosecutors said they had a chain of evidence that pointed to Dr. Ivins. "We regret that we will not have the opportunity to present evidence to the jury," the United States attorney for the District of Columbia, Jeffrey Taylor, said at the news conference. Mr. Taylor said the government was about to bring charges against Dr. Ivins.

As for motive, the documents suggest that in addition to whatever long-term personal problems he had, Dr. Ivins was distraught because a company had lost its government approval to produce an anthrax vaccine for troops, and he believed the vaccine was essential.

"It is hard not to be convinced, with what they have," said Patrick D. O'Donnell, a magazine sorter in New Jersey who was made ill by anthrax and who heard an F.B.I. briefing before the documents were released.

Officials at the Federal Bureau of Investigation are particularly eager to close the case and publicly rebut accusations from defenders of Dr. Ivins that the bureau may have hounded an innocent man into committing suicide. Mr. Taylor said accusations that federal agents mistreated anyone during the investigation are "categorically false."

Robert M. Blitzer, who formerly directed the F.B.I.'s section on domestic terrorism, bristled at criticism of the bureau's methods in the anthrax case and called them a necessary part of tracking down the killer.

"You do the best you can, and it's not always pretty," he said. "A lot of times you interview folks over and over again, and you know they're lying and you've got to figure out why. It's a tough business. Here, you have a bunch of people dead and several diminished and you're charged with solving the crime. You try not to step on peoples' toes, but sometimes it happens."

The documents were unsealed by Chief Judge Royce C. Lamberth of the Federal District Court here after Justice Department officials briefed relatives of some of the victims.

Patrick D. O'Donnell, who worked as a magazine sorter in New Jersey when he was sickened by the anthrax, went to Washington to attend the gathering. Mr. O'Donnell seemed confident, based on the news he has heard, that the F.B.I. had solved the case.

"It has taken a long time," he said Tuesday. "I guess they sat on these people long enough that they broke them. It is hard to believe it is almost over."

Before the documents were released, Robert S. Mueller III, the F.B.I. director, spoke to relatives of the victims and survivors of the attacks ?- a reflection of the importance the bureau attaches to the seven-year-old case. Members of Congress have demanded that Mr. Mueller explain why the case remained unsolved for so long. In June, the Justice Department agreed to pay a settlement worth $4.6 million to another scientist, Steven J. Hatfill, after publicly pursuing him as a suspect for years.

At the news conference, Justice Department officials would not discuss their years-long investigation of Dr. Hatfill, refusing to even acknowledge him by name when reporters asked about him. But while the officials did not exonerate Dr. Hatfill directly, they repeatedly said that they believed Dr. Ivins was the "sole"' culprit in the anthrax plot. The briefings and documents seemed unlikely to quiet all doubts about the case, as suggested by the feelings of a worker at the State Department's mail facility in Sterling, Va., who became severely ill from anthrax spores in the facility in October 2001.

When asked if he would attend the briefing, the worker, David R. Hose Sr., said, "Not on your life."

"I don't believe a thing they are giving out," Mr. Hose said in a telephone interview on Wednesday morning. "The guy's dead. They hounded him to death. It is an easy way out."

The documents recount Dr. Ivins's preoccupation with a Princeton, N.J., sorority whose headquarters were only a few yards from a post office where some of the letters were mailed, and they offer a possible explanation for a fictional New Jersey return address used on one of the letters: "4th Grade, Greendale School."

On 11 occasions, the documents related, donations were made to the Christian-oriented American Family Association by "Mr. and Mrs. Bruce Ivins" while the association was filing a federal suit on behalf of parents of students at Greendale Baptist Academy in Tupelo, Miss., alleging that the students were subjected to corporal punishment.

And the documents suggest a possible reason why Senators Tom Daschle of South Dakota, then the Democratic majority leader, and Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, then the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, were targets of anthrax-laced letters: both are Catholics who have come under fire from anti-abortion forces for supporting a right to choose an abortion.

In a 2002 e-mail to a friend, Dr. Ivins identified his wife as president of the Frederick County Right to Life organization and said she had connections to many anti-abortion groups. "I'm not pro-abortion, I'm pro-life, but I want my position to be one consistent with a Christian," the doctor said in the same e-mail, according to the documents.

Mr. Daschle said he had not been briefed by officials and would not comment until he is. Mr. Leahy is in Vermont, where Mr. Mueller is expected to brief him on Thursday.

Perhaps the most provocative piece of evidence to emerge publicly before Wednesday was the testimony of a therapist who treated Dr. Ivins in recent months and described him as homicidal.

But a number of colleagues at Fort Detrick have defended Dr. Ivins, saying that his recent mental state and his suicide were the result of many months of near-constant surveillance and scrutiny by the F.B.I., not a reflection of his guilt.

Some government officials have also questioned the strength of the bureau's case and said they were eager to see the grand jury documents.

One Congressional official briefed on the case said he was not persuaded that the F.B.I. had made a credible case in singling out Dr. Ivins in the group of people at Fort Detrick who had access to anthrax samples linked to the 2001 attacks.

The F.B.I. may be able to point to odd behavior on the part of Dr. Ivins, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the case is under seal. But he said the attention the bureau focused on Dr. Ivins was reminiscent of a past misstep: "It looks like what they did to Hatfill. Ivins was the weirdest one."

Friends and colleagues, meanwhile, have offered a fuller account of Dr. Ivins's difficult last nine months, saying that he was so distraught by the F.B.I.'s constant scrutiny that he began drinking excessively and had to be hospitalized twice for periods of weeks for substance abuse.

A friend and fellow member of a 12-step program for alcoholics who spent hours counseling him said Dr. Ivins, who at least in recent years had not been a drinker, went rapidly downhill after the F.B.I. searched his house and questioned his wife and children last November.

The friend, a fellow scientist who spoke on the condition that he not be named, said Dr. Ivins had repeatedly denied sending the anthrax letters and was particularly upset at what he considered to be the F.B.I.'s aggressive questioning of his children, Andrew and Amanda, both 24, as investigators tried to get them to turn on their father.

"He said, ?'I'm innocent of these charges,' " the friend said. "He was absolutely shocked they were going after him like this." Through much of the year, the friend said, Dr. Ivins was drinking large amounts of vodka, combined with Ambien and prescription tranquilizers. After being found unconscious in his home in March, he spent four weeks in a treatment program at Suburban Hospital in Bethesda, Md. After that he spent another four weeks in treatment at the Thomas B. Finan Center in Cumberland, Md., being released to go home to Frederick in late May.

Judging from periodic phone calls in which Dr. Ivins often appeared to be intoxicated, the friend said he believed Dr. Ivins was drinking again between May and July, when he was admitted for two weeks to a psychiatric facility.



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The explanation of motive is very weak. Of course the man thought the development of an anthrax vaccine was essential--he had been working on such a vaccine long before 2001, that was his work. As a government employee, he would not have gained substantial financial benefit from developing such a vaccine, and he really had no strong motive to send anthrax laced letters in order to generate interest or financial grants to promote the development of such a vaccine since the government (including Dr Ivins) was already working to develop a safe, effective vaccine.

Dr Ivins was not the only person with access to that particular strain of Anthrax. I think at least 10 other people, in Ivins' lab alone, had access to that particular anthrax. Absolutely no traces of anthrax were ever found in Ivins home or in his car. They had no evidence actually placing him in the locations from which any of the anthrax letters were mailed. There is no explanation for how Ivins would have the knowledge or ability to covert the liquid anthrax he worked with to its powdered form.

The explanation for why the anthrax-laced letters were sent to particular recipients is so weak I think it borders on the far-fetched. It seems a ridiculous stretch and simply designed to find some way to tie the recipients to Ivins.

Ivins obviously had serious psychiatric and alcohol problems in the last year of his life--when the F.B.I. was relentlessly hounding him--but this is neither an indication of guilt, nor an indication that he had serious psychiatric problems in 2001. He may have had his quirks, but no one of his colleagues describes him as being overtly paranoid, psychotic, homicidal, etc. for all those years he worked with them in a government laboratory. I think the government is seizing on an alleged "long history of mental problems" in an attempt to provide some other explanation of his motives.

One must keep in mind that the government also wrongly targeted another scientist before they latched onto Ivins. It is also possible that someone set Ivins up to deflect suspicion onto him.

The government has also offered no strong evidence for their belief that the anthrax attacks were the work of one lone individual. Unfortunately, the government has also done this sort of thing before, in other investigations. How have they eliminated any possibility that anyone else was involved?

There is not one shred of direct evidence that incontrovertably ties Dr Ivins to the anthrax attacks.

The F.B.I. may feel this case is closed, the public should not be so ready to agree with them.


Those who are really interested in this case should read some of the very serious issues being raised by people who are questioning the F.B.I.'s conclusions.

In that regard, Glen Greenwald's comments are particularly thought provoking. Read all of his updates as well.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/01/anthrax/index.html#postid-updateF2

and

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/05/anthrax/index.html

Greenwald is now examining the documents the government released today, so his continuing comments should be interesting.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/06/fbi_documents/index.html

And, these comments, by an expert in anthrax and bio-terrorism, are also worth reading.

http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2008/08/beyond-reasonable-doubt.html


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Thank you for the nice compliment, Stray Cat. I listen to cable news and read the NY Times, and a variety of other news sources on the internet. If I'm interested in a topic, I try to track down as much info as possible. When I mull something over in my mind I try to look at it from all sides before I form an opinion. I do that with pretty much everything. It's my form of mental exercise. Very Happy
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