The A2K Fantasy Olympics Beijing 2008

quoting hingehead - Yep the steering went.

Now there's dramatic. I can just picture it.

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hingehead wrote:

I've gone back and looked and realised that quite a few people picked the same Group A's as I did. Them minnows are gonna make the difference!

Absolutely true! All 7 of the Breakaway Group have the Chinese Women on our country list. 5 of us have the American Men (Patata has Aus & CapGull has the Chinese Men).
In Group B, 6 of us have Japan, 5 S. Korea, 4 France and UK and 2 Italy.
Then the picks go all over the place, with only Brazil, Canada, Greece, N. Korea and Mexico appearing on most of our lists.

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dream team
This is breaking my heart, each day another big haul of medals for china and still not a single kiwi medalist. Sadly from the day 4 dream team I have only picked 1 of the nations. I can see my hopes of fantasy olympic glory being over by the end of the 1st week. At least I can rely on at least 1 gold for NZ in the womens shot put.

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realjohnboy wrote:

hingehead wrote:

I've gone back and looked and realised that quite a few people picked the same Group A's as I did. Them minnows are gonna make the difference!

Absolutely true! All 7 of the Breakaway Group have the Chinese Women on our country list. 5 of us have the American Men (Patata has Aus & CapGull has the Chinese Men).
In Group B, 6 of us have Japan, 5 S. Korea, 4 France and UK and 2 Italy.
Then the picks go all over the place, with only Brazil, Canada, Greece, N. Korea and Mexico appearing on most of our lists.

Everything will change when the athletics starts on Friday. 47 medals up for grabs (the most for any sport-swimming second with 34). Starting Saturday the amount of medals awarded across all sports jumps up too, that should add to the froth and bubble.

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fbaezer wrote:

Group D will again be significant in making a difference between contestants...

hingehead wrote:

I've gone back and looked and realised that quite a few people picked the same Group A's as I did. Them minnows are gonna make the difference!

I said it first, but everyone overread.

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hingehead wrote:

Everything will change when the athletics starts on Friday. Starting Saturday the amount of medals awarded across all sports jumps up too, that should add to the froth and bubble.

This is so true.
There are "first week" countries and "second week" countries.

Powerhouses in swimming, gymnstics, weightlifting, judo, fencing, shooting, archery, will give way to powerhouses in athletics, boxing, canoeing, tae kwon do, and team sports.

China, Thailand, Korea have been typical "first week" countries.
Cuba, Kenya, Ethiopia have been typical "second week" countries.

Traditional powerhouses (US, Russia, Germany, Australia) are supposed to be good both weeks.

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Someone posted a websight on the Olympics which was direct from Beijing and in Chinese.

Does anyone have that websight? My Hawaiian/Chinese dentist is really interested in getting it.

Thanks,

Seaglass

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http://en.beijing2008.cn/

go there and look at the red area at the top right... pick chinese, english, and so on.

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thats wierd, my first time watching olympics i could tell us russia germany and the aussies got it down.

even when they suck, they dont.

im particularly impressed with russia and germany in general.

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Thanks Osso. Dr. Mah thanks you too.

Seaglass

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You are amazing, jo.
There was an interesting story this pm about the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat.
This scientist claims that amongst humans (and also gorillas), there is a common signal of victory: chest extended, arms outreached and head tossed back. Interestingly, she claims, even among people who have been blind since birth, the same manifestation appears.
With regard to not winning, she claims that people from the "west" (ie Europe, NA, etc) accept defeat standing straight up (stoic), while those from, say China, are somewhat bowed at the waist (apologetic).

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George wrote:

Dang!
Tico leap-frogged me.

Purely accidental, I assure you.

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realjohnboy wrote:

You are amazing, jo.

Eh, honeypie, there is disagreement across the land, even by me.

If you're talking about my piazza thing, spaces in the weave of a city, or lace of a city, that's a longtime interest, not primarily re sport - by the pull of the community space, factions have done some acting out therein (multiple bonfires anyone?) and there is a kind of sport codifying in some places, which I usually see as a positive - so talking about it here. Piazzas can also be chosen for assassination spots... and celebration spots. My text efforts are more about space than sport; I have a reputable publisher, if still alive, but have failed to follow through. Gives self a slapshot (is that hockey?)

Seaglass, glad Dr. Mah happy, and by the way, I could use a dentist, but I can only acknowledge it was FB who gave us the link, which... would have been obvious if we'd googled. Some of us slow, including me.

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Await morning results..

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Results after 5 days of competition.

1. alex - 237 points
2. MyOwnUsername - 225
3. hingehead - 220
4. jpinmilwaukee - 218
5. Capitalgull (British Dreamers) - 216
6. realjohnboy (WIFF's) - 215
7. fom2020 (Pancho's Olympic Team) - 211
8. wandeljw - 207
9. markr - 206
10 Patada Veloz (Fantasy Warriors) - 205
11. Calamity Jane - 200
12. McGentrix - 194
13. fbaezer - 189
14. Barneyhull - 188
15. ossobuco (Dolphinkicking Dogpaddlers) - 185
16. jespah (Ring-o-leave-os) - 184
17. EhBeth - 174
18. Foxfyre (Night Owls) - 170
19. cicerone imposter - 169
20. Ticomaya (Ticolympians) - 160
21. MrKingsley - 158
22. tgordon92 (Chicago 2016) - 155
23. George (TGIF) - 153
24. Pantalones - 147
25. fidell (Castro's Champion Kiwis) - 143
26. Diane (PDQ Geckos) - 119
27. Imur (THIOS) - 118
28. ElStudHoncho (Fighting Gerbils) - 93

Alex is still on the lead, but 2004's bronze medalist MyOwnUsername makes a bold move forward; fom2020, 2004's silver medalist markr and wandeljw leave the pursuit group and hang with the leaders.
On the other side of the table, Diane is making the sign of the cross not to finish in last place, it seems they gave Imur's horse the wrong sterioids, and the Fighting Gerbils manage to enlengthen the distance between them and 27th place.

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Dream Team after 5 days of competition:

Chinese Men
Chinese Women

South Korea
Italy
France/Japan

Czech Republic
Slovakia
Sweden
Thailand
Austria / Kazakhstan

North Korea
Zimbabwe
Georgia
Azerbaijan
Finland

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You're awesome Fb.....thanks so much.

(Ahem noting that the Night Owls are slowly inching forward in rank. It remains to be seen whether I'll demand my bribe back from the guy who sold me the dartboard.)

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Congrats to China for gold medals in both men and women's gymnastics team competition. The USA women started out strong yesterday and could have won gold, but one disastrous balance beam mount and less than stellar floor exercise routines sealed their fate. They were able to hold onto silver.

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Women team gymnastics was indeed a great and exciting competition, Foxfyre. It was for anyone to win almost to the very end.
Only thing I didn't like was the Americans' attitude at the end. They should have been proud of their brave performances, content with their hardly earned silver and a bit more solidarian towards their teammate who failed.
Is it the Vince Lombardi attitude of "winning is everything"?
Or is it the Karolys? They also reminded me of the ice-like unsmiling Rumanian girls of Nadia's time.

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fbaezer wrote:

Women team gymnastics was indeed a great and exciting competition, Foxfyre. It was for anyone to win almost to the very end.
Only thing I didn't like was the Americans' attitude at the end. They should have been proud of their brave performances, content with their hardly earned silver and a bit more solidarian towards their teammate who failed.
Is it the Vince Lombardi attitude of "winning is everything"?
Or is it the Karolys? They also reminded me of the ice-like unsmiling Rumanian girls of Nadia's time.

I dislike the way their attitude has been protrayed in a lot of the media--one source this morning said they blamed the event officials for 'distracting' the errant gymnast, but a more careful analysis of what she has said in interviews does not support that. I could see that she was bitterly disappointed and distraught and was not amenable to being comforted at the time of the event, but I also saw the others attempting to comfort her just the same.

Being 'content' with their performance; well, they could have been a bit more classy about that, yes. It is tough to accept that on a normal day you would have won, however, and then smile when you blow it. I heard one commentator yesterday or the day before criticizing a male gymnast who had seriously botched a routine and was laughing and joking immediately after--that was somehow deemed inappropriate.

I disagree with that commentary. I would like all to be having fun and enjoying themselves. But perhaps excellence would suffer. I don't know.

I do know that good sportsmanship is a quality to be revered however, and winning absolutely isn't everything.

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