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It is very funny that Bear finds himself in bed first with McGentrix, and now Finn as he is comparing us to the "bushites".

I hope he gets the irony.

What you are doing at your table can hardly be called "keeping quiet".

For that matter, what you are doing with the enemy would hardly be called "sleeping".

(either one would be a nice change)

Bear, smart people have wised up to the Republican Playbook. They were fooled once in 2000. Many were fooled again in 2004. Few will be fooled again in 2008. Even the fools would be hard to fool again. But I've never underestimated the stupidity of many American voters.

I watched a non-partisan research session on C-SPAN yesterday. It was filmed in Pennsylvania in May. I could not believe how misinformed the citizen members were. Some were overt racists, Some were undecided and were obviously too lazy to go to the candidate sites to learn their policy positions. Instead, they said they were undecided and needed specific information.

One woman said she didn't vote for John Kerry in 2004 because his wife said Laura Bush had never held a real job. She said she couldn't vote for Kerry for that reason. How stupid can you get?

A racist man said it was obvious that Barack Obama was not a real American because his middle name was Hussein, which means he is a Muslim. Now that's world-class stupidity. He went on to say that if Obama is elected, Blacks would take over the country and there would be riots in the streets. This guy was unbelievably stupid.

Another man said he was not a racist because he let his daughter play with a Mexican girl, even in his house, but he was worried that she was here illegally and the immigrants were going to ruin the U.S.

A racist woman said if Obama was elected, she would expect the big black cars to come to her house, and then we all know what will happen.

There were five people who were intelligent and informed. They really stood out among the idiots.

I watched the entire session and was surprised that people would express their true feelings on camera for all the world to see. What is going on with some people in Pennsylvania?

BBB

ebrown_p wrote:

What you are doing at your table can hardly be called "keeping quiet".

For that matter, what you are doing with the enemy would hardly be called "sleeping".

(either one would be a nice change)

oh go change your tampon... your boy is flip flopping all over the joint and this is no longer about ideals.... it's about winning... he wants to win no matter what and you want him to win no matter what... you'll defend anything he does and spin it.... like I said.... you become more identical to bushites every f*cking day...

more bullshit

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

ebrown_p wrote:

What you are doing at your table can hardly be called "keeping quiet".

For that matter, what you are doing with the enemy would hardly be called "sleeping".

(either one would be a nice change)

oh go change your tampon... your boy is flip flopping all over the joint and this is no longer about ideals.... it's about winning... he wants to win no matter what and you want him to win no matter what... you'll defend anything he does and spin it.... like I said.... you become more identical to bushites every f*cking day...

And you'll attack anything he does and spin it, so please stop acting like your totally biased opinion is any more even-handed and honest than the people who support Obama unconditionally. I mean, has there even been a stretch of more than three days in the past few months without you posting a new Obama-bashing thread? You're obsessed, man! Take a break from the bitch-fest, I'm beggin' ya!

Harriet Christian wrote:

The Democrats are throwing it all away. For what? An inadequate black male... I got news for you, McCain will be the next president of the United States

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s

What is remarkable in this political soap opera is that bipo has not denounced the notions of those who now regularly criticize him.

There are those among our membership who would suggest that I am playing bipo to advance my positions.

Not so.

First and foremost, I cannot play bipo. He is far too irascible a SOB to allow this.

Secondly, those who would cast him into the desert without salt need examine there own motives.

Bipo and I rarely, if ever, agree on political positions. He is an **** as respects so many of his positions, but he is honorably consistent in his idiotic adherence to them.

By his estimation, I am an **** and an idiot, but neither of us are so idiotic that when are opinions intersect we will ignore or deny the situation.

The A2K Left has endeavored to make bipo a pariah, and the A2K Right would be fools to accept him as a fellow pilgrim.

Poor bipo, he's a stranger in a strange land.

Cool by me though.

ebrown_p wrote:

It is very funny that Bear finds himself in bed first with McGentrix, and now Finn as he is comparing us to the "bushites".

I hope he gets the irony.

wassa matter ebrown? all upset because you think I'm sleeping with the enemy instead of you?

I got news for ya... I'm not eating my lunch on the playground with the obamarama girls or the bushites..... I'll just sit quietly at my own table and stay in the cafeteria where i can watch out the window.... it's better than tv...

kickycan wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

ebrown_p wrote:

What you are doing at your table can hardly be called "keeping quiet".

For that matter, what you are doing with the enemy would hardly be called "sleeping".

(either one would be a nice change)

oh go change your tampon... your boy is flip flopping all over the joint and this is no longer about ideals.... it's about winning... he wants to win no matter what and you want him to win no matter what... you'll defend anything he does and spin it.... like I said.... you become more identical to bushites every f*cking day...

And you'll attack anything he does and spin it, so please stop acting like your totally biased opinion is any more even-handed and honest than the people who support Obama unconditionally. I mean, has there even been a stretch of more than three days in the past few months without you posting a new Obama-bashing thread? You're obsessed, man! Take a break from the bitch-fest, I'm beggin' ya!

kick... Obama HAS been flip flopping... you can read... you know it's true... so I'm not spinning or attacking... I'm calling attention to irrefutable facts...nothing biased about it.... so I beg you.... don't be one of the legions who even when presented with facts right before your eyes... insist on sucking his dick.

What is remarkable in this political soap opera is that bipo has not denounced the notions of those who now regularly criticize him.

There are those among our membership who would suggest that I am playing bipo to advance my positions.

Not so.

First and foremost, I cannot play bipo. He is far too irascible a SOB to allow this.

Secondly, those who would cast him into the desert without salt need examine there own motives.

Bipo and I rarely, if ever, agree on political positions. He is an **** as respects so many of his positions, but he is honorably consistent in his idiotic adherence to them.

By his estimation, I am an **** and an idiot, but neither of us are so idiotic that when are opinions intersect we will ignore or deny the situation.

The A2K Left has endeavored to make bipo a pariah, and the A2K Right would be fools to accept him as a fellow pilgrim.

Poor bipo, he's a stranger in a strange land.

Cool by me though.

that's "WHOSE" dick is kicky sucking.... there's a thin line between smug and clever.... as for being a pariah wandering in the desert.... it is certainly preferable to throwing in with people I choose not to... regardless of which side of the idealogical fence they fall on... :wink:

When I read Jennifer Loven's AP piece on Obama, which I flagged in the post below, it made my eyes bleed so bad I hardly knew where to start in cataloguing the awfulness. But TPM Reader CO points out a good place to start.

We've seen many examples over the last couple days of reporters egregiously lapping up the McCain camp's nonsensical spin about Obama flip-flopping on Iraq. But some reporters can get spun so thoroughly that they actually retrospectively rearrange the facts of the campaign to accommodate the McCain camp's spin. Change the facts to suit the spin, as it were.

So here you have Jennifer Loven, a veteran journalist with one of the plum spots in the profession writing this sentence (emphasis added) ...

His problem is that his change in emphasis to flexibility from a hard-nosed end-the-war stance -- [i]including his recent position that withdrawing combat troops could take as long as 16 months[/i] -- will now be heard loud and clear by an anti-war camp that may have ignored it before.

Sort of depends on the meaning of 'recent' because I think I've heard the 16 months line for some time. And, sure enough, from October 2007 ...

There is no military solution in Iraq, and there never was. I will begin to remove our troops from Iraq immediately. I will remove one or two brigades a month, and get all of our combat troops out of Iraq within 16 months.

If I'm not mistaken he has said this numerous times since.

Please. There's always, repositioning by both sides gearing up for the general. So let's note those. And I guess there's no stopping gullible reporters from getting jonesed up by each sides' spinners to find subtle shifts where there aren't any. But let's not get so bamboozled that we actually start making stuff up. Okay?

Late to this... has anyone questioned whether there actually WAS any "repositioning"?

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

that's "WHOSE" dick is kicky sucking.... there's a thin line between smug and clever.... as for being a pariah wandering in the desert.... it is certainly preferable to throwing in with people I choose not to... regardless of which side of the idealogical fence they fall on... :wink:

That's ideOlogical....