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George Bush's Legacy

 
 
rabel22
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 08:36 am
Revel
I think your spell check screwed up. Hydrant. Not attacking just pointing out. I don't get to correct spelling very often. I cant spell worth beans.
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revel
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 09:17 am
Embarrassed My day is just not complete without at least one embarrassment around here. If it is just one, i count myself pretty well lucky for the day. anyway, thanks.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 11:11 am
Bush For Sale

A Bush fundraiser is soliciting bribes in return for access to members of the Bush administration. The corruption goes on.

ETHICS
Bush For Sale
In February, Southern Methodist University (SMU) in Dallas, TX announced that the university will be home to President Bush's $200 million library. The announcement has been met with widespread protests from faculty, administrators, staff, and even Methodist ministers. The library will sponsor programs designed to "promote the vision of the president" and "celebrate" Bush's presidency, while minimizing the involvement of historians. Former Bush adviser Karl Rove is reportedly advising the project in "an informal capacity." On Sunday, the Times of London reported that Stephen Payne, a major Bush-Cheney campaign fundraiser, was caught on tape offering access to key members of the Bush administration inner circle in exchange for "six-figure donations to the private library being set up to commemorate Bush's presidency." As the Times notes, "The revelation confirms long-held suspicions that favours are being offered in return for donations to the libraries which outgoing presidents set up to house their archives and safeguard their political legacies." Asked about the report, White House spokesman Tony Fratto simply responded, "[T]here's no connection between any official administration actions and the library."

MONEY = ACCESS: In the Times' video, Payne is seen promising to arrange a meeting for an exiled Kyrgyzstan leader with Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, or Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte, in return for a payment of $250,000 towards the Bush library. When asked whether he could arrange a meeting for the former central Asian president, Payne solicited a bribe. "The exact budget I will come up with," he said. "But it will be somewhere between $600,000 and $750,000, with about a third of it going directly to the Bush library." Payne said the remainder of the $750,000 would go to his lobbying firm, Worldwide Strategic Partners (WSP), which has worked closely with several Bush administration agencies, including the White House, Departments of State, Defense, Justice, Homeland Security, and Treasury, and the FBI. Payne is a political appointee to the Homeland Security Advisory Council and was George W. Bush's "personal travel aide" during his father's 1988 presidential campaign. He currently "assists the White House as a Senior Advance Representative" for Bush and Cheney. In a lengthy statement alleging that "that the Times attempted to entrap me," Payne responded that "isolated comments can be taken out of context."

LIBRARY'S SHADY DONATIONS: Payne told the Times' undercover investigators that publicly, the donation would be made in the politician's name "unless he wants to be anonymous for some reason." In February, Bush said he was considering keeping foreign donors' names to the library confidential. "There's some people who like to give and don't particularly want their names disclosed," Bush said. In November 2006, the New York Daily News reported that Bush hoped to get roughly $250 million in "megadonations" from some key allies, including "wealthy heiresses, Arab nations and captains of industry." The Bush administration has also given special favors to some library donors. Dallas billionaire Ray Hunt was listed as a Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign "Pioneer" and previously served on the board of Halliburton. Hunt donated $35 million to SMU to help build the library. When Bush announced he would extend the U.S.-Mexico border fence by 700 miles in 2006, he apparently granted a favor to Hunt: the border fence would "abruptly end" at Hunt's property in the small town of Granjeno, TX.

CULTURE OF CORRUPTION: The revelations about the Bush library uncovered by the Times further confirm the legacy of corruption that the Bush administration will leave behind. Recently, the New York Times reported that the State Department actually had an "integral role" in the awarding of no-bid contracts to develop Iraq's oil fields, despite the White House denying the adminstration had a role. One of those donors was Hunt Oil (owned by the same Ray Hunt). In 2007, Bush nominated Sam Fox, a major right-wing donor who gave $50,000 to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, to be the U.S. ambassador to Belgium. Randal Tobias, who until recently led U.S. foreign aid efforts but resigned in connection to the DC Madam, was a former pharmaceutical executive and Bush campaign donor. The list of Bush donors with special privileges granted by the administration goes on and on -- and will apparently continue at the Bush library as well.

--americanprogressaction.org
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woiyo
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 12:42 pm
Advocate wrote:
Bush For Sale

A Bush fundraiser is soliciting bribes in return for access to members of the Bush administration. The corruption goes on.

ETHICS
Bush For Sale
In February, Southern Methodist University (SMU) in Dallas, TX announced that the university will be home to President Bush's $200 million library. The announcement has been met with widespread protests from faculty, administrators, staff, and even Methodist ministers. The library will sponsor programs designed to "promote the vision of the president" and "celebrate" Bush's presidency, while minimizing the involvement of historians. Former Bush adviser Karl Rove is reportedly advising the project in "an informal capacity." On Sunday, the Times of London reported that Stephen Payne, a major Bush-Cheney campaign fundraiser, was caught on tape offering access to key members of the Bush administration inner circle in exchange for "six-figure donations to the private library being set up to commemorate Bush's presidency." As the Times notes, "The revelation confirms long-held suspicions that favours are being offered in return for donations to the libraries which outgoing presidents set up to house their archives and safeguard their political legacies." Asked about the report, White House spokesman Tony Fratto simply responded, "[T]here's no connection between any official administration actions and the library."

MONEY = ACCESS: In the Times' video, Payne is seen promising to arrange a meeting for an exiled Kyrgyzstan leader with Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, or Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte, in return for a payment of $250,000 towards the Bush library. When asked whether he could arrange a meeting for the former central Asian president, Payne solicited a bribe. "The exact budget I will come up with," he said. "But it will be somewhere between $600,000 and $750,000, with about a third of it going directly to the Bush library." Payne said the remainder of the $750,000 would go to his lobbying firm, Worldwide Strategic Partners (WSP), which has worked closely with several Bush administration agencies, including the White House, Departments of State, Defense, Justice, Homeland Security, and Treasury, and the FBI. Payne is a political appointee to the Homeland Security Advisory Council and was George W. Bush's "personal travel aide" during his father's 1988 presidential campaign. He currently "assists the White House as a Senior Advance Representative" for Bush and Cheney. In a lengthy statement alleging that "that the Times attempted to entrap me," Payne responded that "isolated comments can be taken out of context."

LIBRARY'S SHADY DONATIONS: Payne told the Times' undercover investigators that publicly, the donation would be made in the politician's name "unless he wants to be anonymous for some reason." In February, Bush said he was considering keeping foreign donors' names to the library confidential. "There's some people who like to give and don't particularly want their names disclosed," Bush said. In November 2006, the New York Daily News reported that Bush hoped to get roughly $250 million in "megadonations" from some key allies, including "wealthy heiresses, Arab nations and captains of industry." The Bush administration has also given special favors to some library donors. Dallas billionaire Ray Hunt was listed as a Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign "Pioneer" and previously served on the board of Halliburton. Hunt donated $35 million to SMU to help build the library. When Bush announced he would extend the U.S.-Mexico border fence by 700 miles in 2006, he apparently granted a favor to Hunt: the border fence would "abruptly end" at Hunt's property in the small town of Granjeno, TX.

CULTURE OF CORRUPTION: The revelations about the Bush library uncovered by the Times further confirm the legacy of corruption that the Bush administration will leave behind. Recently, the New York Times reported that the State Department actually had an "integral role" in the awarding of no-bid contracts to develop Iraq's oil fields, despite the White House denying the adminstration had a role. One of those donors was Hunt Oil (owned by the same Ray Hunt). In 2007, Bush nominated Sam Fox, a major right-wing donor who gave $50,000 to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, to be the U.S. ambassador to Belgium. Randal Tobias, who until recently led U.S. foreign aid efforts but resigned in connection to the DC Madam, was a former pharmaceutical executive and Bush campaign donor. The list of Bush donors with special privileges granted by the administration goes on and on -- and will apparently continue at the Bush library as well.

--americanprogressaction.org


Yawn!!!
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 03:09 pm
woiyo wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Bush For Sale

A Bush fundraiser is soliciting bribes in return for access to members of the Bush administration. The corruption goes on.

ETHICS
Bush For Sale
In February, Southern Methodist University (SMU) in Dallas, TX announced that the university will be home to President Bush's $200 million library. The announcement has been met with widespread protests from faculty, administrators, staff, and even Methodist ministers. The library will sponsor programs designed to "promote the vision of the president" and "celebrate" Bush's presidency, while minimizing the involvement of historians. Former Bush adviser Karl Rove is reportedly advising the project in "an informal capacity." On Sunday, the Times of London reported that Stephen Payne, a major Bush-Cheney campaign fundraiser, was caught on tape offering access to key members of the Bush administration inner circle in exchange for "six-figure donations to the private library being set up to commemorate Bush's presidency." As the Times notes, "The revelation confirms long-held suspicions that favours are being offered in return for donations to the libraries which outgoing presidents set up to house their archives and safeguard their political legacies." Asked about the report, White House spokesman Tony Fratto simply responded, "[T]here's no connection between any official administration actions and the library."

MONEY = ACCESS: In the Times' video, Payne is seen promising to arrange a meeting for an exiled Kyrgyzstan leader with Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, or Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte, in return for a payment of $250,000 towards the Bush library. When asked whether he could arrange a meeting for the former central Asian president, Payne solicited a bribe. "The exact budget I will come up with," he said. "But it will be somewhere between $600,000 and $750,000, with about a third of it going directly to the Bush library." Payne said the remainder of the $750,000 would go to his lobbying firm, Worldwide Strategic Partners (WSP), which has worked closely with several Bush administration agencies, including the White House, Departments of State, Defense, Justice, Homeland Security, and Treasury, and the FBI. Payne is a political appointee to the Homeland Security Advisory Council and was George W. Bush's "personal travel aide" during his father's 1988 presidential campaign. He currently "assists the White House as a Senior Advance Representative" for Bush and Cheney. In a lengthy statement alleging that "that the Times attempted to entrap me," Payne responded that "isolated comments can be taken out of context."

LIBRARY'S SHADY DONATIONS: Payne told the Times' undercover investigators that publicly, the donation would be made in the politician's name "unless he wants to be anonymous for some reason." In February, Bush said he was considering keeping foreign donors' names to the library confidential. "There's some people who like to give and don't particularly want their names disclosed," Bush said. In November 2006, the New York Daily News reported that Bush hoped to get roughly $250 million in "megadonations" from some key allies, including "wealthy heiresses, Arab nations and captains of industry." The Bush administration has also given special favors to some library donors. Dallas billionaire Ray Hunt was listed as a Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign "Pioneer" and previously served on the board of Halliburton. Hunt donated $35 million to SMU to help build the library. When Bush announced he would extend the U.S.-Mexico border fence by 700 miles in 2006, he apparently granted a favor to Hunt: the border fence would "abruptly end" at Hunt's property in the small town of Granjeno, TX.

CULTURE OF CORRUPTION: The revelations about the Bush library uncovered by the Times further confirm the legacy of corruption that the Bush administration will leave behind. Recently, the New York Times reported that the State Department actually had an "integral role" in the awarding of no-bid contracts to develop Iraq's oil fields, despite the White House denying the adminstration had a role. One of those donors was Hunt Oil (owned by the same Ray Hunt). In 2007, Bush nominated Sam Fox, a major right-wing donor who gave $50,000 to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, to be the U.S. ambassador to Belgium. Randal Tobias, who until recently led U.S. foreign aid efforts but resigned in connection to the DC Madam, was a former pharmaceutical executive and Bush campaign donor. The list of Bush donors with special privileges granted by the administration goes on and on -- and will apparently continue at the Bush library as well.

--americanprogressaction.org


Yawn!!!


If you got someone to read it to you and then help you with the big words, you wouldn't be so bored.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 03:15 pm
That is a typical Rep reaction to the corruption of one their own. Were it, say, Clinton doing this stuff, the Reps would be screaming their heads off.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 03:32 pm
Advocate wrote:
That is a typical Rep reaction to the corruption of one their own. Were it, say, Clinton doing this stuff, the Reps would be screaming their heads off.


Probably, and the dems would be the ones saying "yawn" about the whole situation.

Dont believe me?
Look at any of the threads that were going when Clinton was being investigated and accused of corruption.

Is it right for parties to act that way?...NO it isnt
Is it the way things are done in politics?...Yes it is.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 03:35 pm
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
That is a typical Rep reaction to the corruption of one their own. Were it, say, Clinton doing this stuff, the Reps would be screaming their heads off.


Probably, and the dems would be the ones saying "yawn" about the whole situation.

Dont believe me?
Look at any of the threads that were going when Clinton was being investigated and accused of corruption.

Is it right for parties to act that way?...NO it isnt
Is it the way things are done in politics?...Yes it is.



We knew that the pursuit of Clinton was a witchhunt, which it proved to be.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 03:37 pm
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
That is a typical Rep reaction to the corruption of one their own. Were it, say, Clinton doing this stuff, the Reps would be screaming their heads off.


Probably, and the dems would be the ones saying "yawn" about the whole situation.

Dont believe me?
Look at any of the threads that were going when Clinton was being investigated and accused of corruption.

Is it right for parties to act that way?...NO it isnt
Is it the way things are done in politics?...Yes it is.



We knew that the pursuit of Clinton was a witchhunt, which it proved to be.


Then please explain why so many in the Clinton camp were convicted and sent to jail?
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Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 03:39 pm
You sound like Joe McCarthy: guilt by association.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 03:42 pm
Advocate wrote:
You sound like Joe McCarthy: guilt by association.


So then you admit that Bush is not guilty of any crime concerning Abramoff or any other lobbyist convicted of any crime, nor is he guilty of any crime concerning any other repub.

Its nice of you to admit that, but you need to convince your fellow dems of that, especially the ones on here.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 03:49 pm
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
You sound like Joe McCarthy: guilt by association.


So then you admit that Bush is not guilty of any crime concerning Abramoff or any other lobbyist convicted of any crime, nor is he guilty of any crime concerning any other repub.

Its nice of you to admit that, but you need to convince your fellow dems of that, especially the ones on here.



The facts are completely different. Bush is guilty (in my view) of many things, such as being a war criminal. Clinton was guilty of nothing.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 03:59 pm
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
You sound like Joe McCarthy: guilt by association.


So then you admit that Bush is not guilty of any crime concerning Abramoff or any other lobbyist convicted of any crime, nor is he guilty of any crime concerning any other repub.

Its nice of you to admit that, but you need to convince your fellow dems of that, especially the ones on here.



The facts are completely different. Bush is guilty (in my view) of many things, such as being a war criminal. Clinton was guilty of nothing.


And what court or legal authority has convicted Bush of any crimes, especially of being a war criminal?
You are saying he is guilty, yet you have no solid evidence that he has personally commited any crimes.
So now you are sounding like Joe McCarthy.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 05:52 pm
mysteryman wrote:
Then please explain why so many in the Clinton camp were convicted and sent to jail?

How many is "so many?"
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Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 05:53 pm
Bush has not been convicted (lately), but he is guilty. If you read a little, and were honest, you would admit this.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 06:26 pm
Advocate wrote:
Bush has not been convicted (lately), but he is guilty. If you read a little, and were honest, you would admit this.


If he has not been convicted, then the law says he isnt guilty.
Or, are you changing the law to suit your own purposes.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 06:35 pm
Bush's legacy will be that he was a reformed drunk, trying to do the the right thing, surrounded by a bunch of stoned hippies with a D in front of their name.

The leading edge of the baby boomers is the absolute worst America has ever had to offer.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 06:43 pm
It's becoming clear. The slavish devotion comes because these folks are happy to have a president that is dumber than a sack of hoe handles. They think it's great to have a guy that's just like them.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 06:47 pm
Smoke 'em if you got 'em, JTT.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2008 09:34 pm
cjhsa wrote:
Love wins, but peace comes through superior firepower.


Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq stand as three excellent examples that, as has always been the case, you don't know your ass from a shotgun barrel.
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