THE GENERAL ELECTION 2008

I predict that McCain will seriously stroke out or be on big time coumadin therapy. Hes OLD and hes used up. Hell die soon anyway.
Id be more concerned about his running mate. What if its a "Bush"


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you forgot to add none of the above

Mary Ruwart - when the candidates for Libertarian nominee were asked if they'd repeal all gun laws back to the 1920's she was first to answer, which she did with one unqualified word - 'yes'. What stones! Barr, you know, he's a compromise, card-carriers myself want to see a message sent this time, the finer issues are non-critical, so someone like him makes it easier for folk with less adequate bladder control to sign off as well.

Anyway, that said, there's always room for the likes of McCain. If I were picking out a team to de-tumor my brain he'd be welcome, I mean take all the platitudes you like, he's the one worth reading a book about - pure magnitude of existence - one can only guess the cosmic truths which have become apparent to him where he's been.

With either of the populist candidates freedom will be lost. It might be gained too, in a sense, commuted, but we're not playing 'let's make a deal', freedom ain't freedom when someone has to meter it out. To some of you kids it's just natural that the wild west is over, that it was OK, maybe to be celebrated for folk to make it or break it then but no good now, maybe if you're self-righteous enough you think the justification is gone, I could swear for some it's just to make sure no one else is getting off when you ain't, but it will be the hands of bureaucrats in instances to be carved in history that put it to bed. Obama's easily the one more at ease with changing folks acts for them, but that ain't the point. We could talk it through, but if it's going to be carrot-and-stick either way how do we interpolate which one will carrot-and-stick us in a more American manner? I'm astounded how easy it is for folk here to talk about it, positive freedoms, social equity, like it's just cool to step on other Americans toes to try and build heaven - I ain't that superstitious - it reminds me how a function can't double back on itself. My thing is who do non-Americans not want... You guessed it, practically every other nation, many of which we know have it in for us or something to gain from our weakness are for Obama. What I say is them foreigners are strainin' for a McCainin'!

Throw us a rope.
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McCain's got my vote. I'd take Barr over McCain, but if it's in any way close I'll vote for McCain. If Ruwart were running I'd vote for her no questions asked. Whatever happens after this, even if it's McCain vs. Barack again I intend to vote principle (for me, 9/10 times Libertarian) or not show up.

That said, I don't see McCain as a compromise against my principles - I'd want the likes of him, this military/conservative/statesman aesthetic in addition to anyone that action-packed on the team no matter what. They cancel out liberals, which on the outside chance liberal is the way to go there must still be checks, and even in a Libertarian-controlled government we'd have to be able and not-unwilling to TCB. I mean foreigners hate him and there's more to him (I'd take a liquor store robber over a business/law type) than politics - so all else being equal between he and Barack it's a wash. I realize that's loose, back door logic, but it's foolish to reckon these things in terms of what the politico's sell themselves as or say they're going to do - we know that's mostly for show and it's all shades of grey and worst of all, except for what we do internationally (McCains point), it all comes out of what some other American has been doing on his/her own turf.

On the other side, Barack - I'd almost like to see it go as far as it would - like have the nation come off going all the way right with Bush, take the other side of the coin with Barack, then hopefully get a new idea. If it were to play out that way it would be the fastest conceivable sequence of events to lead to a Libertarian administration. Maybe I just don't got the guts to want to risk it not working out that way, but look at how we're stuck with Social Security whether we want it or not - Barack with both houses would de-liberate the nation in such a manner as to be irreparable in my lifetime. I think McCain getting in now will be a benefit to the LNC presidency whenever it happens.

Just as the Nazis did not find it enough to simply kill people in their concentration camps, but had to humiliate and dehumanize them first, so we can expect terrorists with nuclear weapons to both humiliate us and force us to humiliate ourselves, before they finally start killing us.

How so? This guy has forgotten more history than you or I will ever know. I minored in History in College and I am in awe of what he knows.