Sex/nudity on TV for Children

DavidIg wrote:

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we have had a handfull of others post things like that. Dont worry. I dont bother reading them.

Everyone is entitled to their view. Just because I dont agree doesnt mean you dont have the right to feel the way you do.. but since I dont agree with your view, so I wont engage it.

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shewolfnm wrote:

DavidIg wrote:
Don't you mean the JEWISH MEDIA, LOLOLOLOL

no lolololollygagger.

I dont mean jewish media.
I am not someone who thinks the jewish people have control over everything and need to be irradiated.

I said american and I mean american.

American-
the idea of starch white puritan values. Keep your clothes on. Dont cuss. dont make waves. Lower your head and do your work. Turn the other cheek. Kill those who invade your space. Dont be sexual. Punish yourself if you are. Dont look at women. Women are helpless. Men are allowed to be more powerful.

where do you get jewish from that?Ohhhhhhhh yeah. Thats right.
There are some people in this world who think that the jewish folk run the media. Are behind organized crime, dictate the content of our grocery stores , and are all around control lords.
They are called Nazis.

are you one?

im sorry the ending to this post was absolutely awesome.

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well when u think about it, religiously jews probably do control alot of stuff, but if jews really controlled everything, i mean really they wouldnt have been massacred like they did.

sort of nonsense.they controls the world but germany can murder 6 million of them?

ehh...

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boomerang wrote:

I'm pretty open minded but seriously, how does nudity advance the story line in any child appropriate story?

Three responses:

1) Not just nudity.

I said "at least full-frontal nudity", but really what I have in mind is sex. Not hardcore pornography or anything gratuitous like that. And not just for the sake of it But there should be little or no restriction on programs with mere sexual content. Violence is another matter, so I'm not saying kids should be able to watch rape scenes or anything like that.

2) Who said I was talking about stories?

I suppose the sort of stuff I have in mind that would be aimed at kids would be sex education or biology programs. What better way to teach safe sex or anatomy to children than to show it to them?

But apart from actual children's programming, I also think that all the programs that get shown late at night purely because of their sexual content (and not for other reasons such as violence, horror etc.) should not be censored in that way. TV channels should be free to put those programs on earlier in the day, even in the morning, because I'm not convinced that it harms children to see ordinary sex.

3) Depends on what you take to be a "child appropriate story".

I don't think that a story involving sex is necessarily* inappropriate for children. Sex is about as ordinary as eating, sleeping and talking, and I think it harms children to hide it from them.

*Note the word 'necessarily'. Obviously A Clockwork Orange is unsuitable for 5-year-olds. But a story involving just sex (not rape or violence) is what I have in mind.

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Sexual image is important enough in America that a third of a million women a year pay serious money and time to get fake tits, but we can't show tits on TV. why??? because America is schizophrenic when it comes to sex, and in many other areas as well.

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So name a movie or television show that involves sex that is appropriate for children.

Or, name a movie or television show aimed at children that would be improved by adding sexual content.

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I suppose the sort of stuff I have in mind that would be aimed at kids would be sex education or biology programs. What better way to teach safe sex or anatomy to children than to show it to them?

Seriously?

How did the human race reproduce before television?

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only with the love of god boomer, did anyone ever have sex.

Dont you know? we are a heathen society

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boomerang wrote:

So name a movie or television show that involves sex that is appropriate for children.

Happy-Go-Lucky, the new Mike Leigh film.

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Or, name a movie or television show aimed at children that would be improved by adding sexual content.

Sesame Street.

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How did the human race reproduce before television?

With more guilt, shame and embarassment than they might have experienced, had they been shown how to do it properly when they were children.

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boomerang wrote:

So name a movie or television show that involves sex that is appropriate for children.

Or, name a movie or television show aimed at children that would be improved by adding sexual content.

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I suppose the sort of stuff I have in mind that would be aimed at kids would be sex education or biology programs. What better way to teach safe sex or anatomy to children than to show it to them?

Seriously?

How did the human race reproduce before television?

The point is not to improve the media, it is to teach kids that human sexuality is natural, should be embraced, comes in many forms, and is a normal part of intimate relationships. I don't think that porn is appropriate for kids, as it is sexual titillation and is not a good teacher and is no more appropriate than is the violence titillation currently on TV and in the movies. But all tasteful nudity is appropriate for kids of all ages, and tasteful sex acts on the media should be fine for ages 14 and over.

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You want to watch peopl ehave sex on Sesame Street?

Or are you saying that sex talk should happen on sesame street?

Sesame street is geared to kids 6 and under, though watched by all ages.

Please tell me where and why sexual acts, fully nude bodies and long technical words for genitalia is appropriate for kids that age.. ?

My daughter is 4.
she doesnt need to know about penis in vagina because it isnt something she is thinking of and it doesnt make sense.
She is busy learning how to communicate and have friends.
She is learning the power of words and play.

Not sexual relationships.

At the age of 8, 9 10 ? yes. Then it needs to be discussed regularly , freely and with technical terms, slang words and jokes. Anything that makes her comfortable.

At 4?
No, that is not appropriate. It is a lesson that does not apply to kids that young.

it isnt about NOT wanting to teach kids that young about sex, it is about what they can handle emotionally, mentally and physically. And that does not equate.

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I haven't seen Happy Go Lucky so I can't speak to whether the movie would hold the attention of my 7 year old for 2 hours.

Sesame Street would be improved by showing people having sex exactly how.

I agree with you hawkeye but agrote is talking about children -- Sesame Street aged children, kids who aren't allowed to cross the street by themselves, kids who have a hard time following the plot of Dora The Explorer.

And agrote is not talking about nudity for little kids, he said

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I said "at least full-frontal nudity", but really what I have in mind is sex

Anyway...

I'm off with my son to the unsexy baseball game......

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Oh! And speak for yourself --

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With more guilt, shame and embarassment than they might have experienced, had they been shown how to do it properly when they were children.

-- I've never experienced any guilt, shame or embarrassment about sex and when I was a kid Lucy and Ricky had to sleep in twin beds.

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shewolfnm wrote:

You want to watch peopl ehave sex on Sesame Street?

I don't want to watch Sesame Street... I'm 21!

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Or are you saying that sex talk should happen on sesame street?

What, like dirty talk? I think that's highly inappropriate. I'm talking about actual sex.

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Sesame street is geared to kids 6 and under, though watched by all ages.

Please tell me where and why sexual acts, fully nude bodies and long technical words for genitalia is appropriate for kids that age.. ?

Who said anything about long technical words for genetalia?

As for sexual acts and fully nude bodies, I think the burden is on you to tell me where and why they would be inappropriate for kids that age.

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My daughter is 4.
she doesnt need to know about penis in vagina because it isnt something she is thinking of and it doesnt make sense.

It might make more sense if you or the TV didn't refrain from explaining it to her. If one of the basic facts of human life doesn't make sense to a child, this suggests that more may need to be done to educate him/her.

Or if you're suggesting that a 4-year-old is incapable of understanding reproduction, then I'm not sure what you're worried about. If she's incapable of understanding what she sees on TV, then what harm can it do to her?

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She is busy learning how to communicate and have friends.
She is learning the power of words and play.

Not sexual relationships.

Okay, but this descriptive claim is not an argument against what I am proposing. And you're only focusing on one half of my proposal here. What about mere nudity? Nudity doesn't have to have anything to do with sexual relationships.

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At the age of 8, 9 10 ? yes. Then it needs to be discussed regularly , freely and with technical terms, slang words and jokes. Anything that makes her comfortable.

Well I think need to be careful about drawing the line. I'm sure it will need to be drawn somewhere (there's probably not much point trying to teach newborn babies about the birds and bees). But it shouldn't just be based on intuition. If it's suitable for 8-year-olds but not 4-year-olds, we need to think about exactly why that is. We don't want an arbitrary cut-off point that excludes children who might benefit from seeing sex on TV.

Also, again, what about nudity by itself? What about a film that features full-frontal nudity but no sex? Would you agree that it should be allowed to be shown during the day?

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At 4?
No, that is not appropriate. It is a lesson that does not apply to kids that young.

You could be right, but I hope that you mean 'not appropriate' in the sense that it is not appropriate to read Shakespeare to a cat, or to clean a sink with a banana. I hope you don't mean that it would somehow corrupt them, because I find that whole idea rather unconvincing.

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sex should be almost a none issue, in the sense that everyone should see it for what it is, none for what religion turned it into.

like brushing your teeth, does it matter? is it an issue?

bathing?
learning to read?

sex is a part of life. a very great and possibly the best part for some people.

its just a skill like anything else.

well and then. any censorship is bad. period. truth must prevail.

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boomerang wrote:

I haven't seen Happy Go Lucky so I can't speak to whether the movie would hold the attention of my 7 year old for 2 hours.

I'm not claiming that it would. I'm claiming that there's no need to hide it from children, because it won't do them any harm. Specifically, I don't think there's any need to deliberately place certain programs late in the TV schedule purely because of their sexual content. I think it's unecessary.

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Sesame Street would be improved by showing people having sex exactly how.

It would be sexier.

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I agree with you hawkeye but agrote is talking about children -- Sesame Street aged children, kids who aren't allowed to cross the street by themselves, kids who have a hard time following the plot of Dora The Explorer.

What does sex and/or nudity have to do with crossing the street or understanding Dora The Explorer?

That's like suggesting that I shouldn't be allowed to watch cookery programs because I can't drive a car and I tried reading 'To The Lighthouse' by Virginia Woolf once but I couldn't make sense of it.

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I've never experienced any guilt, shame or embarrassment about sex and when I was a kid Lucy and Ricky had to sleep in twin beds.

Oh right, well clearly that proves me wrong. Thanks for going to so much trouble to conduct your research on as many as 1 participants.

I got drunk last week and I didn't die. Nevertheless, alcohol can cause death.

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but I hope that you mean 'not appropriate' in the sense that it is not appropriate to read Shakespeare to a cat

This is EXACTLY what I mean when I say innapropriate.

I have no problems with kids seeing naked people. I dont understand the issue there either. Nudity is only 'strange' because of the minds of the churches that dot our horizon to death.

We watch 'adult oriented' ( please dont hear me say porn there. I mean movies like Matrix. ) with Jillian alot.

Frontal nudity happens allt he time.
I dont care about that.

Im talking about the physical act of sex.
Penetration, Fondling with the goal of sexual arousal. Genitals spread in a way to produce sexual arousal.
Basically any form of nudity that was meant to cause arousal and outside of sexual education.

When I say sex talk, I mean people sitting down and DISCUSSING sex as a LESSON. Older people teaching younger people about parts of their bodies, what our bodies do, where babies come from, how they get there , the male role in sex, the female role in sex, sexual variations..etc

^^^^ THAT^^^^^ does not belong on TV geared for kids 6 and under.

They do not have a concept of that because their bodies are not 'there' yet in development. Their minds are not 'there ' yet in development.

The idea that a man can put his penis inside a girls body to a child is a form of hurting someone. Not loving someone. Not equal enjoyment..
They. dont. have. that . concept.

It isnt about being prude . I tis about what is appropriate for their learning level, their comprehension level and their physical level.

Just seeing a person naked is not a problem for kids. They dont care.

Seeing 2 naked people having sex? Seeing where a penis goes?
That is terrifying to very young kids. And it requires more emotional, sexual and mental maturity then they have. Why make them understand that? Forcing that on a super young child is abuse in its own right.

but until you have kids and spend a lot of time around kids,you will not understand what level of maturity a 4 year old has compared to an 8 year old..
Or a 2 year old compared to a 5 year old.

You dont read Shakespeare to a cat because a cat ( or dog ) only understands two or three words.

You dont teach a 4 year old about sex because boys and girls are not different at that age to them.

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I can barely follow this discussion....
I'm imagining Burt and Ernie finally "getting it on".

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I was thinking of Big bird and elmo

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There is a good deal of scientific info on how the way humans process the erotic changes with age. At some ages certain erotic images are just as bad for the child as are violent images. Experts would know what would be appropriate for Sesame Street, but my guess is that it would not be much more than upper torso nudity

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On sesame street, and the things they do, say, sing and the lessons they present, there is no room on the script for someone to say... Change clothes? So that they could go outside..

Or show mommy or daddy getting out of the shower to get a towel.

There is no way situations where casual nudity would even apply.

Most of the show is outside, with imaginary puppets, or in public stores ..or situations like that.

Maybe sesame street was just a horrible example.

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