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Sex/nudity on TV for Children

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jun, 2008 01:51 pm
aidan wrote:


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OK; as a thought experiment,
let 's try this: I know someone who took his girlfriend to an orgy place.
It was called "Plato's Retreat." (since closed by the IRS.)
Therein, its customers were happily humping away.
Did thay have insufficient respect for themselves n their partners ?

If your husband invited u there ?


Laughing Laughing Holy God David - I am laughing so hard right now trying to picture the man that I married inviting me someplace like Plato's retreat. Not really in the realm of possibility - although as our relationship has evolved into its present state we respect and know each other well enough to allow each other (as truly best friends and partners in parenting our children) the right to make our own decisions.

So, I don't think I'd be prohibited from going if I wanted to and I certainly wouldn't prohibit him from going if he wanted to. But neither of us is the type of person who would ever want to do that- with each other or anyone else.

That 's just as well, since the IRS already shut it down.




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Because neither of us is promiscuous or an exhibitionist- and I think that's what adherence to or an interest in a sexual philosophy that included Plato's retreat would require.
And I'm not being judgmental - I'm just recognizing that different people have different aspects to their personality that would either lend itself to being interested in and enjoying something like that or wouldn't.

I don't like watching other people have sex. And I really can't imagine liking having sex with more than one person at a time.

And just for the record - I do NOT have and never have had an open marriage- but marriage has been hard for us - we're both very independent and drift in and out of separateness emotionally - although at this point we know each other so well that that's not the sticking point it used to be- and I think we do both trust each other and like each other enought to forego all the side issues and just allow each other to be who we need to be.
We're not divorced because neither of us has been interested in pursuing that or being with anyone else.

It's become the perfect relationship for someone like me who was never enamored of the idea of marriage to begin with - not because I didn't like the idea of monogamy or exclusivity concerning sex - because in all actuality monogamy to a partner DOES go along with my personality anyway- I've never been interested in 'sleeping around'- but marriage is a difficult concept for me because to me it's always represented a distinct narrowing of possibilities for my life. A sort of constriction.

But it worked out, because the person I married feels pretty much the same. He's always been interested in pursuing the possibilities of his career. So we just work together on being great friends and taking care of our children. I like it.

Interesting 'thought experiment'!

Thank u.
I like being unconstricted.




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Did u reply to my earlier correspondence, Rebecca ?
A few weeks ago ?
I was interested in some of your opinions
that were therein solicited.

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okay - I have a day off so I will.

I look forward to it.

David
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2008 06:37 am
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
Have you figured out a way to live forever?

Yes.
Its automatic.
It appears that the Law of the Conservation of Energy applies to conscious life
and that death applies only to human bodies.

Maybe compare it to the cocoon from whic a butterfly springs ?

www.IANDS.org

I have had a few out-of-body-experiences,
so its not hard to me to accept that the part of me that was out
of my human body just leaves it, when it has worn out.

I like the way that Deepak Chopra, M.D. put it (parafrasing, here):
tho people think that we are human beings with occasion spiritual experiences,
we are actually spiritual beings with occasional human experiences.

With astrophysicists n mathematicians telling us that 96% of the universe
is missing, consisting of "dark matter" or of "dark energy" of which we have no hint,
except for their gravitational effects,
I can conceive of our spirits consisting of one of them.

David


Ok, i get that. And I totally agree that energy (which we are) cannot be destroyed, only changed. But we, in our current form, can't live forever. And we die. Who knows what awaits us after death? We might float in space. We might reincarnate.

But this body, this life as we know it, must end.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2008 07:33 am
Bella Dea wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
Have you figured out a way to live forever?

Yes.
Its automatic.
It appears that the Law of the Conservation of Energy applies to conscious life
and that death applies only to human bodies.

Maybe compare it to the cocoon from whic a butterfly springs ?

www.IANDS.org

I have had a few out-of-body-experiences,
so its not hard to me to accept that the part of me that was out
of my human body just leaves it, when it has worn out.

I like the way that Deepak Chopra, M.D. put it (parafrasing, here):
tho people think that we are human beings with occasion spiritual experiences,
we are actually spiritual beings with occasional human experiences.

With astrophysicists n mathematicians telling us that 96% of the universe
is missing, consisting of "dark matter" or of "dark energy" of which we have no hint,
except for their gravitational effects,
I can conceive of our spirits consisting of one of them.

David


Ok, i get that. And I totally agree that energy (which we are) cannot be destroyed, only changed.
But we, in our current form, can't live forever. And we die.


Who knows what awaits us after death?

The folks who have died.
I commend your attention to the body of literature
of Near Death Experiences, particularly the writings of my friend
Raymond Moody, M.D. He writes in a very simple ez fashion.
Also try www.IANDS.org
I have been very surprized by how many people have
returned from death, and say so when the topic arises in conversation.
U find them everywhere.


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We might float in space. We might reincarnate.

But this body, this life as we know it, must end.

Try it this way:
u will outlive your car's useful span.
After it wears out, u will still keep on going.

U might get another car, if u wanna.
Do not confuse your life with your vehicle.

David
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jun, 2008 04:34 pm
i hear in 20 years our life expectancy will start outpacing our lifespan, hrm so much for death eh?
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agrote
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2008 04:15 pm
So there's nothing ethically wrong with showing a bit of anus on daytime TV. Right? Are we all in agreement?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2008 09:53 pm
Esthetically gross; not an ethical issue.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2008 10:05 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Esthetically gross; not an ethical issue.


Art should inspire us, the gross that does not educate is thus a misuse of the medium. Yes, ethically we could have anuses on TV, but it would subvert the purpose of TV.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2008 10:17 pm
hawkeye10 wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Esthetically gross; not an ethical issue.


Art should inspire us,
the gross that does not educate is thus a misuse of the medium.
Yes, ethically we could have anuses on TV,
but it would subvert the purpose of TV.


AGREED.
The original foundational question
of this thread was:

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Is there any ethical reason whatsoever why sex,
or at least full frontal nudity, should not appear on TV,
completely uncensored, at any time of the day,
available even for children to see?

I can't think of any reasons. Please give details
.
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Lea Kasso
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 09:35 pm
@Chumly,
Are you kidding me? Should all historical acts then be considered violent and not taught? Jesus Christ was MURDERED! The point of the Passion was to teach the world what we are to live for and what sacrifice was made for us. There is no comparison here.
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