Churches and the clergy get incredible benefits under the tax code. However, all this is conditioned on them staying out of politics. I think the benefits should be pulled from the priest and his church.
Chill out. He was a guest speaker/preacher. He spoke for how long?
Well, it was the last straw. Obama has resigned from the church.
he has to publicly.
It isnt fair for that preacher to make comments like that he KNOWS will reflect on Obama.
If he wanted to support Obama, he could have changed his behavior for a few months and acted supportive.
Instead, he took the limelight and ran with it.
I dont blame him. At least he stayed genuine to who he is.. but..
a little maturity may tell someone other wise when it comes to being someone who is largely tied with a person who is running for president.
Im not bashing him though.
I agree with some of the things he says and if i were christian, I would go to his church hands down.
I just think that he is taking things to a slight , un necessary extreme simply because people are looking at him. And it does not seem to cross his mind how he is effecting Obamas image.
I dont care if it was Clinton, Bush, Obama, Ross Perot. .. who ever.. his behavior isnt fair. Not right now.
Curb it. Be respectful.. its only a few months. Dont suck up the stage light simply because you can see it ya know.
I gave a link on another thread to a more tempered speaker at the church, a woman named something like Thistlewaite. It's in the Washington Post, back after I find it again.
Anyway, I thought I was raised in a church with a pulpit without politics, until I was no longer interested and could remember with hindsight. Looking back, and around, I can see virtually all sermons as in part political, by nature. But overtly political, icky poo, to me, just as government getting into religion control is icky poo.
As Shakespeare said, All the world's a stage... and I'll add, a pulpit.
It's a bit tame considering Innocent 111's ( or 11's) standards.
Mame wrote:Chill out. He was a guest speaker/preacher. He spoke for how long?
CBS said that he says the same stuff in his own church.
You mean this fellow? (I've seen and
love that painting. Which is beside the point.) I enjoy reading about those two families, yes I do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Innocent_X
Given the history of church and state, it's pretty obvious you cannot separate the two. Politics and religion go together. They have done, they do, and they will. It's just the way it is.
Well, people do try. There is some effort at that.
We should not give up our efforts to maintain a wall between church and state. Look around at countries that don't and you will see great disfunctionality.
Why is there always this gibberish about liberal religious leaders (who, when their speech is analysed, we find that largely, they speak the truth) and there is virtually nothing mentioned of those idiot right wing "religious" [they're not] leaders who appear on national TV all the time spweing their hate and nonsense and endorse political candidates, including presidential candidates.
If there's been any endorsements for more "liberal" candidates by religious leaders, then it's been kept pretty damn quiet in the press.
