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Rev Michael Pfleger: A Disgrace to the Catholic Church?

 
 
Miller
 
Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 08:17 am
Pfleger-ant foul
ELECTION '08 | Outspoken priest caught on video ranting about Hillary at Obama's church

May 30, 2008


LYNN SWEET blogs.suntimes.com/sweet

WASHINGTON -- The Rev. Michael Pfleger mocked Sen. Hillary Clinton from the pulpit of Trinity United Church of Christ -- earning him a reprimand Thursday from Sen. Barack Obama as his comments threaten to resurrect the politically radioactive Rev. Jeremiah Wright as a campaign issue.

Pfleger, the outspoken activist pastor of St. Sabina in Auburn-Gresham, spoke at Trinity last Sunday night, and his videotaped comments about Clinton started to ricochet around the Internet. Introduced by Wright's successor, the Rev. Otis Moss III, Pfleger starts talking of the need to expose ''white entitlement and supremacy wherever it raises its head" in the the clip on YouTube.

Pfleger continues, referring to Clinton's tearing up just before the New Hampshire primary -- which may have helped her win.

''Rev. Moss, when Hillary was crying, and people said that was put on, I really don't believe it was put on,'' Pfleger says from the pulpit. ''I really believe that she just always thought, 'This is mine! I'm Bill's wife, I'm white, and this is mine! I just gotta get up and step into the plate.' And then out of nowhere came, 'Hey, I'm Barack Obama,' and she said, 'Oh, damn! Where did you come from? I'm white! I'm entitled! There's a black man stealing my show!' ''

Pfleger then pretended to wipe tears from his eyes. "She wasn't the only one crying, there was a whole lot of white people crying.''

As he wrapped up, Pfleger must have sensed he went too far. ''Sorry . . . don't want to get you into any more trouble,'' he said, a reference to the controversial Wright, whom Obama cut ties with April 30, following what he called Wright's ''rants'' during a press conference at the National Press Club here. Moss, back on the pulpit, said, "We thank God for the message and we thank God for the messenger."

Republicans have already started hitting Obama over Wright, and by Thursday had seized on Pfleger's comments.

Obama, in a statement, said, ''As I have traveled this country, I've been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that unites us. That is why I am deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger's divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn't reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause.''

Pfleger, a passionate advocate for the down-and-out, immediately issued an apology: ''I regret the words I chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Senator Obama's life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them.''

Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said Pfleger stepped down from a ''Catholics for Obama'' committee a few weeks ago, but would not say why.

The Clinton campaign at first had no comment, then Thursday evening said Obama did not go far enough in distancing himself from Pfleger. "Divisive and hateful language like that is totally counterproductive in our efforts to bring our party together and have no place at the pulpit or in our politics," said a statement issued by Clinton spokesman Phil Singer. "We are disappointed that Senator Obama didn't specifically reject Father Pfleger's despicable comments about Senator Clinton, and assume he will do so."

Chicago Sun-Times religion reporter Mike Thomas asked Cardinal Francis George's office for a reaction, and his spokeswoman, Colleen Dolan said, ''The cardinal has made it clear to Father Pfleger in the past on more than one occasion that it's inappropriate to speak about political issues from the pulpit and that his own personal opinions are his own personal opinions.''

The campaign of presumptive GOP nominee Sen. John McCain declined comment.

Pfleger is a longtime Obama friend and was in the audience at the National Press Club for that Wright press conference, and when we talked afterward, he realized Wright created a problem for Obama.

I was told Pfleger's comments stunned some in the Obama camp because they expected him to be more politically savvy -- and not take on Clinton,especially at Trinity, of all places.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 08:18 am
I think the guy is damn funny and should trade in that black outfit for a cigar and a stiff drink in a comedy club

' Oh my god. there is a black man in here'!!!!! Laughing
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Mame
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 08:19 am
I saw that video and thought it was good! Who cares what these guys say, anyway? He's just another person.
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Miller
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 08:22 am
Mame wrote:
He's just another person.


I thought he was supposed to spreading "the word of God".
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Mame
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 08:32 am
Does that mean he can't get involved in other things?
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 08:34 am
no. that means that since he has identified with god, he can no longer be a human with opinions on other things, no sense of humor that would involve anything other then starch white puritan life style and heaven forbid he be loud.
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Mame
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 08:37 am
Thank you, Oh Wise One.

No sense of humour? That'd be a shame. Looked like the congregation thought he was pretty funny at times.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 09:08 am
he's dumb ass... and were I black... nothing would annoy me more than white people who suddenly start talking like the cliches stereotypical "street black" or black preacher to show their creds. As a matter of fact as a white man I find it pretty annoying.....f*cking idiot is what he is....if he wants to be a comedian he should do it in a comedy club.... separation of church and hate....having said that I am amused by it... but I'm laughing at him not with him...
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 09:10 am
that does bother me too.

The whole.. pretending to be black....... and acting as though the only way to talk to black people is to act like a thug

but

that is also what makes him funny to me. But I like non pc, offensive things like that..


Take him seriously as a preacher?
OHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no. That will never happen.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 09:20 am
shewolfn... I love ya dear.... well said...
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Mame
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 09:32 am
Eh, if the congregation relates to him who cares what colour he is? I thought it was funny.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 09:40 am
BBB
I agree with Shewolf and Bear. I thought the White priest was funny but his mocking the stereotype form of Black racism was offensive.

Someone should tell the people in the church to turn off the cameras. Are they trying to do Obama harm?

BBB
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 09:42 am
No.
He is basking in the glow of someone elses fame.

Sort of self centered if you ask me.
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Mame
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 09:42 am
I didn't see it as mocking. Guess it just depends on one's perspective.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 09:45 am
shewolfnm wrote:
No.
He is basking in the glow of someone elses fame.

Sort of self centered if you ask me.


to boil it down to a common denominator.... he's a dick.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 10:18 am
common denominator between you and him????



( you LEFT yourself wide open there... ) :wink:
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djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 10:24 am
Re: Rev Michael Pfleger: A Disgrace to the Catholic Church?
Miller wrote:

''Rev. Moss, when Hillary was crying, and people said that was put on, I really don't believe it was put on,'' Pfleger says from the pulpit. ''I really believe that she just always thought, 'This is mine! I'm Bill's wife, I'm white, and this is mine! I just gotta get up and step into the plate.' And then out of nowhere came, 'Hey, I'm Barack Obama,' and she said, 'Oh, damn! Where did you come from? I'm white! I'm entitled! There's a black man stealing my show!' ''


i think he nailed it
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 10:31 am
Catholics are not very used to emotional congregations, my guess is that he got swept away, that this was a learning experience for him. If he understands his mistake and does not make it again I'd give him a pass.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 10:36 am
Laughing

hawkeye

do a quick search on youtube for his name.

This is how he preaches all the time.

he is doing it more in front of live cameras now that he has a glimmer of fame from obamas stage light.

It is nothing new.
He will 'do it again' because that is how he preaches no matter what.

He really IS funny...

Him and Ralphie May should tour together. Laughing
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 11:22 am
Some people need to get a life.

This guy was talking as a private citizen in front of an audience who obviously appreciated what he had to say. He was expressing a valid (and unflattering) opinion of Mrs. Clinton that many people share. There was nothing particularly offensive about what he said-- especially in context of this campaign. Obama was right to distance himself from this because he is trying to run a positive campaign. But there is no reason for rational people to get bent out of shape about this (unless they are trying to win one more point in this last desparate effort to get nominated).

Go listen to Geraldine Ferraro (who is much more offensive and not a bit funny) and then tell me why what this guy said should even matter.
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