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Toronto Mayor Goes After Shooting Ranges

 
 
cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 10:20 am
They're even cool in pink camo.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/03/business/600-rifle-01.jpg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 10:20 am
cjhsa wrote:
You're one of those types.


What "those types"?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 10:49 am
cjhsa wrote:
Also, wherever guns have been banned, crime has increased. The gun haters will come up with stats about "gun crime" while ignoring the fact their gunless socieity is know knifing each other to death.


I'm not a gun-hater, but ...

http://www.guncontrol.ca/Content/miller-table.jpg

according to cj's way of thinking, our homicide rate should be a lot higher than it is

http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/report/govrev/images/cp-rc-26_e.gif




I'd consider myself an advocate of some forms of gun control, but gun-hater, no. I quite liked Kurt's air rifle for dusting raccoons bums Cool (don't tell mrs. hamburger)
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 11:09 am
There's lies, damn lies, and statistics.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 01:01 pm
Aren't statistics fun? How do you explain the total number of crimes per capita?

Total crimes (per capita) (most recent) by country

#20 Switzerland: 36.1864 per 1,000 people
#19 Italy: 37.9633 per 1,000 people
#18 Czech Republic: 38.2257 per 1,000 people
#17 Estonia: 43.3601 per 1,000 people
#16 Hungary: 44.9763 per 1,000 people
#15 Seychelles: 52.9265 per 1,000 people
#14 France: 62.1843 per 1,000 people
#13 Norway: 71.8639 per 1,000 people
#12 Canada: 75.4921 per 1,000 people
#11 Germany: 75.9996 per 1,000 people
#10 South Africa: 77.1862 per 1,000 people
#9 Netherlands: 79.5779 per 1,000 people
#8 United States: 80.0645 per 1,000 people
#7 Montserrat: 80.3982 per 1,000 people
#6 United Kingdom: 85.5517 per 1,000 people
#5 Chile: 88.226 per 1,000 people
#4 Denmark: 92.8277 per 1,000 people
#3 Finland: 101.526 per 1,000 people
#2 New Zealand: 105.881 per 1,000 people
#1 Dominica: 113.822 per 1,000 people
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 02:06 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Aren't statistics fun? How do you explain the total number of crimes per capita?


By the statistic methods.

Murder per capita:

... ... ...
#24 United States: 0.042802 per 1,000 people
... ... ...
#40 France: 0.0173272 per 1,000 people
#41 Czech Republic: 0.0169905 per 1,000 people
#42 Iceland: 0.0168499 per 1,000 people
#43 Australia: 0.0150324 per 1,000 people
#44 Canada: 0.0149063 per 1,000 people
#45 Chile: 0.014705 per 1,000 people
#46 United Kingdom: 0.0140633 per 1,000 people
#47 Italy: 0.0128393 per 1,000 people
#48 Spain: 0.0122456 per 1,000 people
#49 Germany: 0.0116461 per 1,000 people
#50 Tunisia: 0.0112159 per 1,000 people
#51 Netherlands: 0.0111538 per 1,000 people
#52 New Zealand: 0.0111524 per 1,000 people
#53 Denmark: 0.0106775 per 1,000 people
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 02:10 pm
You're forgetting to take into account what our inner cities look like. They don't exactly have a european feel to them for the most part. Your crime stats are gonna go up as more and more muslims move in. Non-homogenious populations create more tensions, however, the real problem we have here is black on black crime. It raises those numbers up dramatically.

So, should black people not be allowed to own guns? IMO only if they move to Canada.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 02:13 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Aren't statistics fun? How do you explain the total number of crimes per capita?


By the statistic methods.


Those nationmaster statistics use the statistics by the United Nations (sic!) Office on Drugs and Crime, for the period 1998 - 2000, btw.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 02:48 pm
cjhsa wrote:
You're forgetting to take into account what our inner cities look like. They don't exactly have a european feel to them for the most part. Your crime stats are gonna go up as more and more muslims move in.


errr, not so much. We've got quite a large muslim population here in the GTA (not in the city - they live in the nice houses in the burbs). Pretty peacable community for the most part. Some problems but not a source of much significant criminal activity here.

Ya gotta remember,
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The United Nations has ranked Toronto as the most multicultural city in the world.
We dig the mix baby.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 04:06 pm
someone who has never lived in or visited toronto (aka trannar or hogtown - because of the many slaughterhouses that once were within the city limits) may find it difficult to believe or understand how such a mix of people can leave together quite peacefully .
when we visited toronto for the first time in 1958 , it was a pretty straightlaced and "veddy british and scottish" place .
how things have changed !
walking around downtown toronto , going to the theatre or having a meal in one of the many restaurants , one will see people of all colours and will hear many languages of the world (though the vast majority also speak english as the language of business ) .

i certainly have never felt the need to carry a gun while walking through toronto of any time of day or night .

(i should add that some U.S. citizens are "slightly" Laughing annoyed when they find out that they can not bring a shooter across the border and that the canadian customs and border officers will confiscate any weapons one might want to bring across Shocked ) .

why not find out why you DO NOT need a gun while visiting canada ?
hbg


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Toronto's racial diversity


Toronto, with a population of 2.48 million people ( 5 million in the GTA - Greater Toronto Area ) is heralded as one of the most multicultural cities in the world and is ranked as the safest large metropolitan area in North America by Places Rated Almanac. Over 100 languages and dialects are spoken here, and over one third of Toronto residents speak a language other than English at home.

Between 2001 and 2005, the Toronto CMA attracted an average of 107,000 international immigrants each year, The City of Toronto welcomed two thirds (69,000).

43 per cent of Toronto's population (1,051,125 people) reported themselves as being part of a visible minority, up from 37 per cent (882,330) in 1996.

the top four visible minority groups in Toronto were:
Chinese at 259,710 or 10.6 per cent of our population
South Asian at 253,920 or 10.3 per cent
Black at 204,075 or 8.3 per cent
Filipino at 86,460 or 3.5 per cent

49 per cent of Toronto's population was born outside of Canada, up from 48 per cent in 1996



new immigrants to Toronto since 1991 number 516,635, representing 21 per cent of our population.

fully one in five Toronto residents arrived in this country during the 1990s
one in four children between 5 and 16 in the City of Toronto are new immigrants having arrived between 1991 and 2001

while the City of Toronto had 48.7 per cent of the GTA's population in 2001, we were home to:
57.8 per cent of all GTA immigrants (1,214,625)
64.4 per cent of all new immigrants that arrived in the GTA during the 1990s (516,635)
60.4 per cent of all GTA residents identified as belonging to a visible minority (1,051,125)

Toronto has 79 ethnic publications



full report :
MULTIRACIAL TORONTO
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 05:41 pm
cjhsa wrote:
Your crime stats are gonna go up as more and more muslims move in.


Even in that idiot post, this one stands out. I'm not surprised, though, to see this clown trying to suggest that one's religion is a reliable means of predicting an increased potential for criminal behavior.

The only way you'd get more Muslims into T.O. would be to use a huge shoe horn. Not only is the Muslim population of the city large (10% or more), but it fits in nicely with all the other communities. For example, the Guyanese and the Islanders--Jamaica, Trinidad, Antigua, Barbados--own many small shops and restaurants, and they sell a lot of chicken and goat, which are both popular in the Island community. They all prominently advertise that the chicken and goat they sell is Halal--after all, chicken and goat are popular among Muslims, too, and they'd be fools not to cater to that large market.

It's incredible to me that any allegedly intelligent and educated adult can live in such a circumscribed and dim world.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 08:42 pm
dyslexia wrote:
shikas dick won't get any bigger no matter what the size of the gun he sticks in in his pants.




Hmmmm. I wonder if it has a hair trigger. :wink:
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 09:21 pm
Setanta wrote:
It's incredible to me that any allegedly intelligent and educated adult can live in such a circumscribed and dim world.


Well, there's an exception to every incredible thought.










Oh, you mentioned 'intelligent', 'educated' and 'adult'. So might well be there's no exception here.
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