Toronto Mayor Goes After Shooting Ranges

Did someone just try to post using food stamps?

We have way too many politicians who do this feel good **** instead of addressing the real issues like crime and punishment. As a politician, you say "I'm going after guns" and the media will follow you like a pack of hounds.

Say "I'm going after criminals", and they'll say "Who?" (before disappearing).

sorry, not when it can impact my commute

A gun range can impact your commute?

Do tell.

toldja already

keep up

Yes, this guy really needs most of his welfare to buy the gas for his cars, especially the Porsche and to invite his guest(s) in exclusive French restaurants at posh wineries.

kurt , good old friend of ours kept about a dozen guns in his cottage .
he was a keen hunter and we sometimes enjoyed a piece of nice venison from his hunting trips into the woods .
his wife passed away some years ago and he retired to his cottage .
we still kept in contact with him even though he started acting a bit strange as time went on . we just attribured it to him getting older - just like we are getting older .
two years ago he told us about seing a deer at a friend's farm , but by the time he raised his rifle the deer had disappeared . he thought that was a rather strange happening since it is was large open field .

last year his son visited and our friend started acting rather strangely .
the son suggested that dad might want to get rid of the guns and give up hunting .
our friend became enraged , pulled out a gun and started to point it at his son .
the son made a hurried getaway and called the police .....

our friend is now confined to a home and can't understand what's going on .... he wants his guns back ...

unfortunately our good friend has been diagnosed with advanced alzheimer's ...

(i'm sure that cj would realize in plenty of time if alzheimer's or some other disease would cause him problems in handling firearms properly and would turn his firearms over to someone responsible ... we are all thankful that cj will ALWAYS be able to distinguish right from wrong and will act responsibly in ALL circumstances - alzheimer's is a disease that only afflicts other people anyway , isn't it ?)
hbg

I see dead people.

http://www.torontothebad.com/

Politicians always go after the easy targets first. In the 70's and 80's and continuing to this day the EPA went after small to medium sized businesses in order to finance their battle against much larger corporations. I see the same thing happening here.

Screw your government. They don't have your best interest at heart.

The politicians have nothing to do with your concerns, since guns become persona non grata in dense urban areas, and based on the increasing population and expanding urban environment, in a 100 years or so, the east coast will likely officially be a megamopolis. That density of population is not everyone's cup of tea, so some there will don their Davy Crockett hats, and go off into the woods, a la Walt Disney's chronicles of Davy Crockett.

We have no discussion, since it appears to me you have one position on the subject, and that doesn't allow for discussion with anyone other than those that subscribe to your belief.

Excuse me, foofie, please go back and read the original post.

Also, wherever guns have been banned, crime has increased. The gun haters will come up with stats about "gun crime" while ignoring the fact their gunless socieity is know knifing each other to death.

While I doubt your first, I find the second part of your above quite interesting.

You seem to agree that guns are used to shoot is other criminally to death; if forbidden, those criminals change to the knife as alternative.

No-one really will (and can, IMHO) object that.

But those, who are for 'gun laws' don't have to be "gun haters".
(For instance, I was trained as a military sniper - but never used any weapon just for fun. [Actually, I never shot more than I actually had to.]


Shooting sports might be the wright thing for some - but certainly not in an downtown area.
And hunting isn't bad either - though I wouldn't do it myself I like the 'result' on my plate. :wink:

Why not in a downtown area? It's a controlled range environment after all. What is the issue here?

There's at least two within the city limits of my local urban warfare zone. The only folks shooting each other are the gangbangers and junkies who never set foot in those places. They aren't about to spend $50 practicing with their weapon when they can spend it on more bling and drugs.

You're one of those types.

Statistics are a non-sequitor in this topic, since crime has increased in urban areas over the decades, and guns have usually been banned in urban areas. Guns would not limit crime in urban areas. I believe you are thinking that guns can be part of a cure for a devolving society. I can't accept that. Guns, regardless of who owns them, in my opinion, are a symptom of a devolving society. Or, a society that has yet to evolve, like the old west. Anyway, if we could go back to Leave It To Beaver days, guns would be a non-issue.

I don't like guns in a civilian setting; therefore, only when needed for the military in combat it is necessary. Otherwise, I think of guns as a symptom of a failed society, regardless of whether it's the good guys, or criminals that own them.

Over 80M Americans own close to 200M guns. We must have failed.

Whatever.

"Whatever" is just too glib to continue this discussion. I put brain cells into overdrive to respond to your post, and you glibly reply with "whatever"?

I don't see guns as devolving. They seem to get better every year.

AR style rifles are the shiznit for deer hunters. If they don't get it, all they need is one test drive, and they're hooked.