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Objectivism 101

 
 
DavidIg
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 06:18 am
demonicturtle wrote:


14 is my real age.
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I'm pleased that you know it all.
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 06:20 am
fresco wrote:
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Oddly enough, I haven't felt the need to do searches on any fresco character


Quite right. Its only interesting researching lunatics and bigots.


Why would someone so eager to sound like a real philosopher go to the bother?
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fresco
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 07:55 am
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Why would someone so eager to sound like a real philosopher go to the bother?


If you actually read "my philosophy" you might notice that one of the issues I raise is the illusion of "unity of self". In your case your so-called aspirations to "truth and logic" are mental room-mates to your bigotry and poor philosophical reading skills. When you are prepared to admit to yourself the extent of that mess you might go some way in developing a more acceptable approach to communication and persuasion. Until then you are doomed to slink beck to the fetid waters of your own looney forum to seek solace from other self-delusional misfits.

Consider "my interest" to be a service to both you and society in an attempt to put you straight.
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demonicturtle
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 08:09 am
DavidIg wrote:
demonicturtle wrote:

I'mEducate me? You've already established yourself as my superior? Get the **** away from philosophy! .


Yes Mr 14yr old Rolling Eyes


Davy-boy! Your an ageist too! I should have expected only the best from you.

So, let me get this straight. You will only debate with someone that is complimentary with your criteria as a genuine philosopher? Are you simply trying to discount everyone in hopes that you will not have to debate at all?
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 08:23 am
demonicturtle wrote:

So, let me get this straight. You will only debate with someone that is complimentary with your criteria as a genuine philosopher? Are you simply trying to discount everyone in hopes that you will not have to debate at all?


I can't take someone seriously if they can't accept that reality is absolute, ie, it's a basic fact, and it's the basis of ALL knowledge....also, people who lack the ability to think critically as proven by their rejection that Jews own and control the US mass media{a one minute google job}....naturally, those who think the Jews are totally innocent will assume I'm evil/bigoted and this will prohibit productive dialogue.
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ViciousViper
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 08:23 am
It is discouraging when the author of a thread is himself a troll. DavidIg posts bigoted remarks under the guise of philosophy.
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 08:26 am
fresco wrote:
[In your case your so-called aspirations to "truth and logic" are mental room-mates to your bigotry and poor philosophical reading skills.


Any fool can question what truth and logic are whilst rejecting reality and it's role in the formation of maths, concepts, language, logic etc.
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 08:27 am
ViciousViper wrote:
It is discouraging when the author of a thread is himself a troll. DavidIg posts bigoted remarks under the guise of philosophy.


No-one gives a **** about your comments.
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demonicturtle
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 08:36 am
DavidIg wrote:
demonicturtle wrote:

So, let me get this straight. You will only debate with someone that is complimentary with your criteria as a genuine philosopher? Are you simply trying to discount everyone in hopes that you will not have to debate at all?


I can't take someone seriously if they can't accept that reality is absolute, ie, it's a basic fact, and it's the basis of ALL knowledge....also, people who lack the ability to think critically as proven by their rejection that Jews own and control the US mass media{a one minute google job}....naturally, those who think the Jews are totally innocent will assume I'm evil/bigoted and this will prohibit productive dialogue.


I never said reality was not absolute, just that it does not line up with human nature.

I don't care if the Jews do control the media, it doesn't make it right to discriminate, Mr. We Should Value Individual Rights, Even Though I Don't Value Those of Jews.
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fresco
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 08:44 am
I can't take someone seriously if they can't accept that reality is absolute,

religious statement from an "atheist"

ie, it's a basic fact, and it's the basis of ALL knowledge....

naive confusion of ontology and epistemology

also, people who lack the ability to think critically as proven by their rejection that Jews own and control the US mass media


i.e people who couldn't care less about Jews


naturally, those who think the Jews are totally innocent

of no stated crime

will assume I'm evil/bigoted

and stupid



and this will prohibit productive dialogue.

true !
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 09:09 am
I find this continued allegation about Jews owning U.S. media fascinating. So, Rupert Murdoch is a Jew? Conrad Black is a Jew? Ted Turner, who founded and owns CNN, TNT, WTBS, The Cartoon Network, and after the merger is Vice-Chairman of AOL/Time-Warner Communications--he's a Jew? Oh, and Turner purchased MGM/United Artists from Mr. Kerkorian, who, i am sad to say, is of Armenian extration, and not a Jew.

Some people go around wearing rose colored glasses. JenHen, it seems, wear Jew-colored glasses. Everything and everyone they see become Jews.
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 09:20 am
Murdoch's mommy is Jewish, Conrad Black is a prominent Zionist.....but no need to take my word for it, joogle yourself some knowledge chump.
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 09:21 am
fresco wrote:

naive confusion of ontology and epistemology


Please explain...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 09:23 am
Murdoch's mother's mother was Jewish, her father was an Irish Protestant. That's enough for you to rant, though, isn't it. What is your evidence that Black is a "Zionist," chump? Got any evidence which will stand up to the light of day?

I see you have nothing on Ted Turner, so far.

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EDIT: That was a gross insult to chumps everywhere . . . What is your evidence that Black is a "Zionist," chimp?
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 10:06 am
Setanta wrote:
Murdoch's mother's mother was Jewish, her father was an Irish Protestant. That's enough for you to rant, though, isn't it. What is your evidence that Black is a "Zionist," chump? Got any evidence which will stand up to the light of day?

I see you have nothing on Ted Turner, so far.

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EDIT: That was a gross insult to chumps everywhere . . . What is your evidence that Black is a "Zionist," chimp?


Dummy, I never said, nor has any anti-Zionist ever said that every single newspaper, radio station or TV network was owned and/or controlled by Jews, so stop being so utterly stupid........if you want to actually discuss anything with me, either stop playing dumb or get a brain transplant.
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ViciousViper
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 10:53 am
You never said anything worth saying.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 11:02 am
I'd have to go along with VV on that one.

So, you're not saying that every media outlet in the United States is owned by Jews--you're not saying that now, although you made no such distinction in the past. And therefore, when you wrote:

DavidIg wrote:
....also, people who lack the ability to think critically as proven by their rejection that Jews own and control the US mass media{a one minute google job}....naturally, those who think the Jews are totally innocent will assume I'm evil/bigoted and this will prohibit productive dialogue.


We were all supposed to know that you were temporizing, within your own head, and didn't mean that Jews own and control all mass media in the United States.

You've provided no evidence to the effect that Jews own even a significant proportion of mass media in the United States. What have you given us so far--that Rupert Murdoch's mother's mother had some Jewish ancestry.

You're even more stupid that i had given you credit for, and that's saying a lot. So, even if Jews owned all of the mass media in the United States, how would that be evidence of any flaw in the system? Oh yeah . . . because all Jews are criminals. And we know that because?

David says so . . .

What a f*ckin' moron . . .
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 12:25 pm
**** off silly and childish Jew.
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existential potential
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 01:10 pm
David, could you please sum up the points you have made thus far on this thread, seeing as you have accused virtually all of us that we cannot make a good point, or when someone does make a point their labelled a Jew.

Sum up your main points.
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Jenifer Johnson
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jun, 2008 01:35 pm
David, the reason why these head banger go out on the net to try and hunt us down, is because the reality we present, shatters their life long illusions. Their criminal mossad mentality is "By way of Deception Shalt Thou Do War ". The truth threatens their whole existence.

These are the defense tactics that it takes in order for a psychotic mentality to believe a lie:

1) Deny believing in or having any knowledge of Judaism, but impugn the messenger. A self-proclaimed idiot.
2) Impugn the messenger with being anti-Semitic; as if telling a lie about Judaism is Pro-Semitic. This only confirms their racist belief. AshkeNAZI Jews created the Zionist Bolshevik agenda. The AshkeNAZI Jews come from Eastern Europe and are not Sephardic (Semitic). The AshkeNAZI Jews are racist against the Sephardic (Middle Eastern Semitic) Jews.
3) Impugn the messenger with being hateful; as if the truth can be hateful. This only confirms their understanding how sick the dogma really is.
4) Impugn the messenger with being a racist, when it is Judaism that promotes the belief and concept of race. At the core of Judaism is the belief that there is a Jewish race; which is a false belief.
5) Impugn the messenger with being a Nazi, or a white supremacist. Nazism, the belief in a master race, is only plagiarized Judaism. While Adolf Hitler was in power, he was in search of the Holy Grail, to legitimize his claim that the Aryan race was the master race. Judaism is just an OLD religion with the same claim, that Jews are the master race! Aryan supremacy is wrong but Jewish supremacy is ok?
6) When presented with the truth of the Torah and the Talmud; claim it is no different than any other religion. Actions are the ramifications of one's beliefs. Blaming others for their sickness will never excuse your sickness and resolve the problem of your actions.
7) When presented with the truth; claim the dogma takes superior intelligence to understand. Yes, head banging takes real intelligence. Learn to read.
8) When presented with the truth; claim it is sacred and needs to be kept hidden. Yes, beliefs that are this repugnant needs to be buried deep, to keep the stench down. Not like the Gideon Bible that is published around the world and open to everyone. There is a reason why they keep this dogma away from everyone. If this dogma had any redeeming value it would be promoted like any other truth.
9) When presented with the truth, "employ such means as appeasement, deception, duplicity and even "bribery" in their dealing with gentiles, so as to avoid their wrath." -Rabbi Saadya Grama
10) the Jewish Mentality will wail all day about Aryan/white supremacy in public. Then behind close doors practice Jewish supremacy, with closed associations, by the exclusion of non-Jews. If we are going to ascertain which mentality is more evil; white supremacy is at least up front and in your face. In an open society, Jewish supremacy hides the Jewish associations, so they can benefit from their closed society, by stabbing the non-Jew in back, with a smile on their face.


Mossad : Israeli Intelligence Agencies (an oxymoron)


6 million reasons why one should always question Israeli Intelligence.
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