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The Great Patents Heist

 
 
Chumly
 
Reply Sun 4 May, 2008 08:07 pm
The Great Patents Heist
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 5 May, 2008 07:53 am
Re: The Great Patents Heist

The most confusingly self-referential link-to-nowhere ever.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 5 May, 2008 07:55 am
Recursive, not self-referential.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Mon 5 May, 2008 11:57 am
Patently funny! I have a mega-cold and the links got mixed up.
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High Seas
 
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Reply Mon 5 May, 2008 12:02 pm
It's a good article all the same:

http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/patents.html
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 5 May, 2008 12:04 pm
not unlike the panama canal, we stole all those patents fair and square.
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High Seas
 
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Reply Mon 5 May, 2008 12:08 pm
We built the Panama Canal, Dys, there's a difference!

Back to the article, though, this bit is flagrantly contrary to fact:

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In addition to official government looting of Germany (what GIs always called "liberating"), there was also the personal looting bonanza exemplified by Robert Maxwell, financier extraordinaire, and at one time the most hated man in Britain. The great contribution of this Orthodox Jewish citizen, .....He finally perished mysteriously and nakedly in a plunge from his yacht in 1991 just a week after standing up to the Israeli secret police, the Mossad - who may have set him up in business in the first place.


He never "stood up" to any of those criminals, he just tried to rob them.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 5 May, 2008 12:10 pm
Ah, the old myth of German superiority.
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High Seas
 
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Reply Mon 5 May, 2008 12:11 pm
DrewDad wrote:
Ah, the old myth of German superiority.


Classic demonstration of old proverb: "It's a wise child who knows his own father".
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Chumly
 
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Reply Mon 5 May, 2008 12:50 pm
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Which raises the justifiable question of the atom bomb, which European Jews did produce for America and German scientists did not provide in time for Germany. In his magisterial Verschwörung und Verrat um Hitler ("Conspiracy and Treason Against Hitler"),9 Gen. Otto Ernst Remer details how anti-Hitler elements in the German scientific community maneuvered their own Werner Carl Heisenberg (b. 1901) into the key uranium-developing program at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute (now succeeded by the Max Planck Institute of Physics). His clear mission, proudly proclaimed after World War II,10 was to bureaucratically delay the German A-bomb project until the Allies had won the war.11

As just one example, munitions minister Albert Speer pleaded with Heisenberg and his fellow conspirator von Weizsäcker (brother of a later West German president) to name whatever money or materials they required after they claimed they had been held up by shortages. Von Weizsäcker's reply asking for "40,000 marks" caused Speer to stare in amazement, and to later confess that he had himself planned to propose 100 million marks for starters.

Not only did Heisenberg state explicitly to Der Spiegel, "We never tried to produce any atomic bombs and we are glad not to be responsible for having made any," he also admitted leaking the latest information on German uranium-splitting research to the half-Jewish Danish scientist Niels Bohr, who promptly informed his racial confreres in the U.S.

Thus, Germany did not lack the bomb because it lacked Jews, but rather because a handful of key scientists hostile to Hitler wormed their way into the German atomic program. Heisenberg had even admitted to a shocked Luftwaffe audience in 1942, after the devastating British 1,000-bomber annihilations of the port cities of Kiel and Lübeck, that Germany could produce a bomb with material "the size of a banana" (gesturing with his hands) to wipe out an entire enemy city, but then he caught himself and said this of course would be economically impossible.12
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High Seas
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 05:44 pm
Chumly - the entire article is laughable, with the honorable exception of the title. Most people notice this at first glance, though some of us are slower on the uptake <G>
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 06:17 pm
The claims of "German invention" are not held up by actual historical evidence. The reciprocating gas engine was invented by a gradual evolution of its parts by several workers from all over the world. The engine was developed well before Benz and DAimler. Benz and Daimler adapted the engine for a "modern" style car.

The rocket was known for centuries before V-2. The liquid fueled binary fuel system was dreamed by a Swiss in early 1900 and was developed by Robert Goddard. The GErmans actually stole his design from magazine articles.

The jet engine was co-designed and originated independently by a Brit and a German.

Nuclear fission was first demonstrated by Fermi (although Rutherford was credited). Fermi had shown that fission occurs but he didnt understand how. The news then went to Germany and two physicists successfully demonstrated that fisssion did indeed result in lesser weight daughters (In their case , BArium). The news came back across the Ocen and was landed on by folks at Princeton and U of Chicago(Fermi again-for which he recd a Nobel Prize, as did Hahn, the GErman) and the rest was history.
BTW, in the"rce " to produce an ATomic bomb, the Germans couldnt solve the enrichment problem, they were using a heavy water process that didnt work well.
In the case of all developments, they are collaborative, not exclusive. For eg, when did the reciprocating engine become developed, when it was a 4 stroker?, when someone developed the carburator or the spark ignition? The answer is all of the above. SO stop reading that crap. Its junk.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2008 08:12 pm
Don't tell me the UFO and anti-gravity references are false!
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It is at least interesting that it was just two years after the seizure of "50 tons"19 of German aerospace and physics papers that the first major UFO story, the 1947 Roswell, New Mexico incident, broke. After all, what has fascinated researchers ever since (particularly government skeptics monitoring Area 51 at Groom Lake, north of Las Vegas) is things the Germans were working on: spacecraft which use new, tough, but lightweight materials, make 180 degree turns at Mach 4 without spilling the drinks and generally defy the laws of gravity, perhaps by the use of gyroscopes within gyroscopes.
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