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Tue 22 Apr, 2008 03:47 pm
Re: ON our school system...
OGIONIK wrote:lol bill gates got it right when he said "Obsolete!"
i havent learned anything in school i didnt already learn on my own and thats sad.
Does this include those pesky subjects like proper nouns, first person nominative case, punctuation, etc. etc.....? :wink:
Current Generation
Many people refer to the current generation of youth, my generation, as the useless and lost generation. Although I am totally encompassed in this comment, I would definitely agree with that statement. As for the school systems, there are so many things wrong and/or broken with the school system. Kinda like our legal system. Having recently been through the system, I found that it seemed difficult to find teachers that were really into what they were doing and that cared about teaching the knowledge to their students. Also, half of the time in class, the teacher was always dealing with a disciplinary issue with another student. Don't get me wrong, I realize how lucky I am to be in the United States, however, there are still things that can be vastly improved in the school system.
Our social need to be politically correct all the time ,and uber paranoia of being labeled as inappropriate for things we may say or do I think, has taken away the power our teachers once had in their own classroom.
They can not raise their voice now for fear of being 'abusive'
They are almost REQUIRED to say please and thank you even when kids are throwing things in their faces
Discipline seems to have to start with some kind of compliment to the child as if they will be completely BROKEN with out it
Teachers pay has not kept up with the cost of living the way it should so not enough people are choosing that career anymore.
Our schools are terribly underfunded and over crowded.
But above all else, I think a lot of the problem with 'younger people' ( me being considered one ...) starts at home.
Some where.. some how.. over the last 20 years or so.. parents seem to have lost their own power .. or GAVE UP on it.. to this PC need as well.
There seems to be an underlying current of letting a child experience everything and the parents should be super passive so as to not ' interfere with a childs confidence'.
I dont know how TRUE that is.. but when I see my generation (30's and 40's) and the previous generation, side by side with this 'generation Y'(late teens / 20's i think.).. there is a HUGE difference in how we all behave.. where we spend our energy, our money and where we hand our respect .
Quite daunting.
Granted... ALL kids work hard at trying to stand out and be separated from the previous generation. Everything from clothing, to hair style, to music choice to education choice... every single generation has done that. That is part of growing up..
Re: ON our school system...
OGIONIK wrote: i havent learned anything in school i didnt already learn on my own and thats sad.
Should we be more disturbed by the state of the education system of the idea that you seem to be proud of this little factiod?
If you didn't learn anything you didn't already know then you failed to take advantage of what was available to you. Is that the school system's fault? Or your own?
Re: ON our school system...
lezzles wrote:OGIONIK wrote:lol bill gates got it right when he said "Obsolete!"
i havent learned anything in school i didnt already learn on my own and thats sad.
Does this include those pesky subjects like proper nouns, first person nominative case, punctuation, etc. etc.....? :wink:
not when im typing. i talk different than i type, i type like exactly the thoughts in my head. when i speak i take more time.
Is that the Bob Herbert Op-Ed?
It annoyed me when I read it.
There is, unfortunately, a big distance between "what candidates talk about" and "what the media reports." And while I follow Obama's speeches much more closely than Hillary's (so I know less about what she talks about vs. what's reported), Obama's talked about education a LOT.
shewolfnm wrote:Our social need to be politically correct all the time ,and uber paranoia of being labeled as inappropriate for things we may say or do I think, has taken away the power our teachers once had in their own classroom.
They can not raise their voice now for fear of being 'abusive'
They are almost REQUIRED to say please and thank you even when kids are throwing things in their faces
Discipline seems to have to start with some kind of compliment to the child as if they will be completely BROKEN with out it
Teachers pay has not kept up with the cost of living the way it should so not enough people are choosing that career anymore.
Our schools are terribly underfunded and over crowded.
But above all else, I think a lot of the problem with 'younger people' ( me being considered one ...) starts at home.
Some where.. some how.. over the last 20 years or so.. parents seem to have lost their own power .. or GAVE UP on it.. to this PC need as well.
There seems to be an underlying current of letting a child experience everything and the parents should be super passive so as to not ' interfere with a childs confidence'.
I dont know how TRUE that is.. but when I see my generation (30's and 40's) and the previous generation, side by side with this 'generation Y'(late teens / 20's i think.).. there is a HUGE difference in how we all behave.. where we spend our energy, our money and where we hand our respect .
Quite daunting.
Granted... ALL kids work hard at trying to stand out and be separated from the previous generation. Everything from clothing, to hair style, to music choice to education choice... every single generation has done that. That is part of growing up..
its because they quit hitting thier kids, honest to god thats what it is.
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