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Thu 17 Apr, 2008 10:44 pm
Contrary to what others might think, Obama handled the question well, especially considering it's irrelevance. The media, media, media, media...
AUDIO/VIDEO OF DEBATE.
If you're one that thinks this is a valid question then you're probably also one that supports the manipulative tactics of the media and it follows that you keep them on the air.
Well, Jason, none of that makes sense, if you reread what you wrote.
I do suggest you look around on a2k and follow some threads before throwing out incomprehensibles ones. Even engage people, and answer them when they ask or answer you.
I'll begin with you.
Help me understand my error, I am more than willing to admit a mistake.
Well, I understood what you said jason.
Hannity did not feed George anything. Hannity merely suggested that Stephanopoulos ask the question of Obama.
If Stephanopoulos did not think the question was valid, he should not have asked it.
What makes you think the question and resulting answer back fired ??
Sorry, I was in a crabby mood. I didn't want to have to look at a link to see what the question was.
Sorry, I was in a crabby mood. I didn't want to have to look at a link to see what the question was.
I understand my not wanting to look at the link, but I was rude.
H2O_MAN wrote:Hannity did not feed George anything. Hannity merely suggested that Stephanopoulos ask the question of Obama.
If Stephanopoulos did not think the question was valid, he should not have asked it.
What makes you think the question and resulting answer back fired ??
Have youi been back under the rock the last 36 hours?
Roxxxanne wrote:H2O_MAN wrote:Hannity did not feed George anything. Hannity merely suggested that Stephanopoulos ask the question of Obama.
If Stephanopoulos did not think the question was valid, he should not have asked it.
What makes you think the question and resulting answer back fired ??
Have youi been back under the rock the last 36 hours?
I was buried under a pile of Liberal BS, but I got myself out - thanks for caring
ossobuco wrote:Sorry, I was in a crabby mood. I didn't want to have to look at a link to see what the question was.
It's fine but this instance aside I've noticed that trend on this particular site. When something is posted instead of discussing the issue, someone would rather immediately, point out a grammatical error or some other trivial matter diverting attention away from the purpose of the post.
Again, I accept your apology. Just something I've noticed when compared to other forums.
H2O_MAN wrote:Hannity did not feed George anything. Hannity merely suggested that Stephanopoulos ask the question of Obama.
If Stephanopoulos did not think the question was valid, he should not have asked it.
What makes you think the question and resulting answer back fired ??
The question backfired because "President" Obama, in his answer brought to light the elementary foolishness of the question. The question backfired because Stephanopolopopo has lost credibility, maybe not in the world of journalism but definitely through the eyes of viewers. The question backfired because everyday the media loses ground in regard to its legitimacy and FOX leads the way. And if you honestly think that this question was merely a suggestion, then you are entitled to your opinion but I along with most would have to disagree.
You say that if Stefonopholoau did not think it was a valid question, he should not have asked it............but that's the point friend, HE DID think it was a valid question. He did ask it. A valid question to ask a hopeful for the highest office in this land. I think not; Seems it would be better placed in the election of a junior high school president.
I think it gets under the collective skins of the rabid right-wing in America when an intellectual, reasoned response is given to the sophomoric of sophomoric questions.
We have watched the rabid right wing in America fawn, for the last seven and a half years, over GW Bush, the common man, as he stumbled over and grappled with the most rudimentary english phrases.
We to the left of center relished those "gotcha" questions, on the rare occasion one passed through the republican firewall, because we loved seeing the painstaking attampts made to link 2 monosyllabic words to another pair in a torturous attempt to create something coherent.
The right wing media machine is hoping to have their day to bask in the second hand discomfort of their opponents. It just isn't going to happen with Obama because unlike GW Bush, he is smarter than his interlocutors, he is more articulate than them, and he senses the direction they wish to take the campaigning process.
This backfired because I think the rabid right believes that Obama is a fraud and are looking to "set him off". After all, that's what black people are like on "COPS". I assume they think that the cumulative effect of all these "gotcha's" is going to expose him for the fraud they believe he is, or that he'll spazz out and reveal his true identity.
You don't think Obama will spill some of his 40 while wearing a wife-beater on the stoop of the white house?
jasonrest wrote:H2O_MAN wrote:Hannity did not feed George anything. Hannity merely suggested that Stephanopoulos ask the question of Obama.
If Stephanopoulos did not think the question was valid, he should not have asked it.
What makes you think the question and resulting answer back fired ??
You say that if Stefonopholoau did not think it was a valid question, he should not have asked it............HE DID think it was a valid question. He did ask it.
Then it was a valid question.
candidone1 wrote:I think it gets under the collective skins of the rabid right-wing in America when an intellectual, reasoned response is given to the sophomoric of sophomoric questions.
We have watched the rabid right wing in America fawn, for the last seven and a half years, over GW Bush, the common man, as he stumbled over and grappled with the most rudimentary english phrases.
We to the left of center relished those "gotcha" questions, on the rare occasion one passed through the republican firewall, because we loved seeing the painstaking attampts made to link 2 monosyllabic words to another pair in a torturous attempt to create something coherent.
The right wing media machine is hoping to have their day to bask in the second hand discomfort of their opponents. It just isn't going to happen with Obama because unlike GW Bush, he is smarter than his interlocutors, he is more articulate than them, and he senses the direction they wish to take the campaigning process.
This backfired because I think the rabid right believes that Obama is a fraud and are looking to "set him off". After all, that's what black people are like on "COPS". I assume they think that the cumulative effect of all these "gotcha's" is going to expose him for the fraud they believe he is, or that he'll spazz out and reveal his true identity.
Exactly, they would like to see that look...
But, I think it goes much further than a right wing hunt for an awkward moment. The media, media, media survives because of ratings. Issues of substance and importance don't earn ratings or at least not as much as what color panties Paris Hilton is wearing. And in this case the moderators would rather talk about an acquaintance of Senator Obama, his habits and ideals because of course the law of ideal transferring means Obama has the same mindset and this is far more interesting than say his position on healthcare or foreign policy. Journalism has been compromised! sound the alarm.
H2O_MAN wrote:jasonrest wrote:H2O_MAN wrote:Hannity did not feed George anything. Hannity merely suggested that Stephanopoulos ask the question of Obama.
If Stephanopoulos did not think the question was valid, he should not have asked it.
What makes you think the question and resulting answer back fired ??
You say that if Stefonopholoau did not think it was a valid question, he should not have asked it............HE DID think it was a valid question. He did ask it.
Then it was a valid question.
In the eyes of a journalist compromising integrity for a highlight? Yes.
In the eyes of the average person trying to decide who should be next to hold the highest office in the land? No.
It did backfire on Hillary's lacky Stephanopoulos. Hillary seems to like McCain and Hannity and Fox way more than she likes Obama. Sore losers the Clinton's. To me it's sad. It would have been easy and fun to vote for Hillary if her campaign showed the same compassion for struggling Americans as Obama does but she's made it clear that to her it's all about power and damn anyone who stands in her way. May she spend the rest of her life shadow boxing with imaginary bullets.
I understand Clinton wants to win. I get that.
But when she becomes nearly indistinguishable from the media machine that is Hannity and Fox, and attacks Obama in the same manner as they attack him, she does her position no favors, the democratic party no justice, and serves only to diminish the reputation her surname has in American politics.
If guilt by association is such a valid or relevant political tactic, then may her husband's reputation as president be tarnished by her perceived affiliations to and sidings with long time democratic party enemies such as Fox et al.
I just saw that video. Great answer from Obama. It is exactly this kind of **** that Obama is trying to get rid of in politics, and exactly the kind of **** that Clinton and McCain are embracing. The tried and true dirty politics of the past versus the issue-based politics of the future, right here on dislplay. We'll see if the public is smart enough to figure out which works better for the country.
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