Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2009 10:24 pm
Quote:
Pit bulls attack Phoenix postal carrier

Feb. 3, 2009 08:52 PM
The Associated Press

A Phoenix mail carrier is recovering Tuesday after she was attacked by two pit bull-type dogs.

Phoenix police say officers arrived on the scene Tuesday morning and found the 44-year-old female carrier with several bite marks according to a new release from the U.S. Postal Service.

The initial investigation revealed the victim had been delivering mail to a home in east Phoenix when the dogs ran from the rear yard of the home and began attacking her.

The victim managed to fend off the attack but not before she was bitten several times.

The victim was assisted by witnesses in the area and the animals returned to the home. The carrier was transported to a local hospital where she was treated for her injuries.

Police attempted to make contact with the homeowner, but no one answered.

Animal Control has taken custody of the animals.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2009 11:00 pm
@OGIONIK,
I repeat what I said earlier: Pittbulls should be bred out of existence. This does not mean that we should kill any individual dogs; it means that we should simply not breed them. They won't mind.
Ogionik sounds so much like what I have stereotyped as the mouth breathing, gun toting pittbull owner.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2009 11:22 pm
Probably another breed that should just be 'un-bred' out of existence is the Rottweiler as it has a high propensity for unprovoked attacks too. But for unpredictable behavior, the pitt bull reigns. Many dogs will bite, but most dogs do not maim or inflict serious injury when they bite. But the stats re serious injury when one or more pitt bulls attack are scary.

Quote:
Annually in the United States there are approximately 20 human fatalities directly resulting from a dog attack; this number is miniscule compared with human fatalities caused by gunshot (approximately 12,000 annually), accidents (approximately 100,000 annually) or health related disease processes (click here for table) (Click here for commentary on this subject)

The breeds most often involved in fatal attacks are Rottweilers and Pit bulls.

In the United States, pit bulls make up one to three per cent of the overall dog population and cause more than 50 per cent of serious attacks.

Of the 27 people who died as a result of dog bite attacks in 1997 and 1998, 67% involved unrestrained dogs on the owner's property; 19% involved unrestrained dogs off the owner's property; 11% involved restrained dogs on the owner's property; and 4% involved a restrained dog off the owner's property.

Of the 27 people who died as a result of dog bite attacks during 1997 and 1998, 67% involved an attack by one dog; 19% involved an attack by two dogs; and 15% involved an attack by 3 or more dogs.

From 1979 to 1998, at least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in bite related deaths. Pit Bulls and Rottweilers were involved in more than 50 percent of these incidences.

In a study reported by a retired professor from California State University at Chino, Robert Plum, it was found that one dog in 55 will bite someone seriously during the course of a year. With respect to breed differences in the tendency to inflict serious injury, Plumb estimates that when a pit bull bites a human, one in 16 (e.g. 1/16) will inflict serious injury; this contrasts with a ratio of 1/296 Dobermans, and 1/156 German shepherds.

http://www.dogexpert.com/Dog%20Bite%20Statistics/DogBiteStatistics.html
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2009 01:20 am
@Foxfyre,
According to the FCI Standard, the typical Rottweiler is "good natured, placid in basic disposition and fond of children, very devoted, obedient, biddable and eager to work. His appearance is natural and rustic, his behaviour self assured, steady and fearless. He reacts to his surroundings with great alertness."

When I was a child and during my youth, Rottweilers were typical family dogs on the farms ...
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2009 09:53 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

According to the FCI Standard, the typical Rottweiler is "good natured, placid in basic disposition and fond of children, very devoted, obedient, biddable and eager to work. His appearance is natural and rustic, his behaviour self assured, steady and fearless. He reacts to his surroundings with great alertness."

When I was a child and during my youth, Rottweilers were typical family dogs on the farms ...


pitbulls are less likely to bite than a golden retriever, wow were going to get rid of a lot of dogs it seems.

Sad

pitbulls, specifically, and when i say specifically, i mean explicitly, bred not to bite humans.

do you know in dogfights the handlers have their hands on their dogs a large amount of the time?

and these dogs are in pretty much mortal combat.

imagine what a dog must go thru to become that "messed up in the head" to attack a person?


pitbulls dissapear, if only dalmatians were left for people to fight you would see a huge increase in dalmatian attacks, it would just take a while to breed the power back into them.

if a pitbull attacks someone, i would bet my life they werent a pure pitbull, or they were abused / neglected.

yes , dog aggression, very instilled in them.

not human aggression.my friend who fights his pits, his dog attacked his daughter, what did he tell the animal control "oh i took good care of him, i dont know why he attacked her.. it was just out of the blue"


guess what, every owner says that. every single one.

do you see yet?

noone admits they abuse their dog. "all" pitbull attacks are *out of the blue, from a stable nurturing environment*

go ahead and sponsor breed specific legislation, you come to my house and try to take my dogs your getting shot.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2009 09:55 am
@OGIONIK,
he Am Staff is a people-oriented dog that thrives when he is made part of the family and given a job to do. Although friendly, this breed is loyal to his family and will protect them from any threat. His short coat is low-maintenance, but regular exercise and training is necessary.

wow. straight fromt he "experts"


are you a dog expert? a serious question.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2009 09:57 am
@OGIONIK,
funn, german sheperds description says and i quote

"very fond of children, ONCE A RELATIONSHIP IS ESTABLISHED.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2009 09:57 am
@OGIONIK,
should we eliminate them as well?

from the ukc website, this just gets better and better roflmfao.

This breed has indomitable courage, high intelligence and tenacity. Coupled with its affection for its friends, and children in particular, its quietness and trustworthy stability make it an all-purpose dog.

those dog experts must be some biased folk to lie like that, i mean CHILDREN?

WTF O_o

they are heartless killers, right? wait what? people are ignorant about them? OMG. what to believe, the media or the experts on domesticated canines.. hrm.

thats a tuffy.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2009 10:02 am
@OGIONIK,
those two above were staffordshire and american staffordshire terriers.

this is the ukc on american bulldogs. jkust to hit all the bases

The essential characteristics of the American Bulldog are those which enable it to work as a hog and cattle catching dog, and a protector of personal property. These tasks require a powerful, agile, confident dog with a large head and powerful jaws. The American Bulldog is a gentle, loving family companion who is fearless enough to face an angry bull or a human intruder. Note: It is common for young American Bulldogs to be somewhat standoffish with strangers and judges should not penalize this. By the time the dog is around 18 months of age, however, the breed's normal confidence asserts itself.

Disqualifications: Viciousness or extreme shyness; cowardice.

and the american pitbull terrier.(ukc)


The essential characteristics of the American Pit Bull Terrier are strength, confidence, and zest for life. This breed is eager to please and brimming over with enthusiasm. APBTs make excellent family companions and have always been noted for their love of children. Because most APBTs exhibit some level of dog aggression and because of its powerful physique, the APBT requires an owner who will carefully socialize and obedience train the dog. The breed's natural agility makes it one of the most capable canine climbers so good fencing is a must for this breed. The APBT is not the best choice for a guard dog since they are extremely friendly, even with strangers. Aggressive behavior toward humans is uncharacteristic of the breed and highly undesirable. This breed does very well in performance events because of its high level of intelligence and its willingness to work.

The American Pit Bull Terrier has always been capable of doing a wide variety of jobs so exaggerations or faults should be penalized in proportion to how much they interfere with the dog's versatility.



i would love to see people post previous anti-pitbull propoganda after that.

i mean, i learn from my mistakes and am highly ignorant, i admit it when im wrong. i come here to be proven wrong actually, and to learn.

will you?
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2009 10:14 am
I wasn't in on the original discussion that started with this thread, so I'll just throw my 2 cents in. My sister once had a lovely pitbull named "Dallas". He was the ugliest thing I've ever seen but sweet as can be. He was also really old. Now we have pitbulls living next door. They bark at us all the damn time and we've lived here for almost 3 years. I think they're just stupid. One is probably still a puppy because his tail gets to wagging when he's barking, but the other one makes me nervous. Whenever we pull up in the driveway next to the fence and he's out, he doesn't bark right away. He waits for us to get out of the car and walk close to him and then starts snarling and barking. The little bastard is going for maximum fright from the kids and it pisses me off. I think that this breed is often owned by people who don't give them adequate training.

Someone mentioned Chows and I think they are also dangerous, probably because of their limited peripheral vision.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2009 10:18 am
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:

I repeat what I said earlier: Pittbulls should be bred out of existence. This does not mean that we should kill any individual dogs; it means that we should simply not breed them. They won't mind.
Ogionik sounds so much like what I have stereotyped as the mouth breathing, gun toting pittbull owner.


when it comes to something i love, bet ur life ill take yours if u get between us.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2009 10:21 am
@FreeDuck,
FreeDuck wrote:

I wasn't in on the original discussion that started with this thread, so I'll just throw my 2 cents in. My sister once had a lovely pitbull named "Dallas". He was the ugliest thing I've ever seen but sweet as can be. He was also really old. Now we have pitbulls living next door. They bark at us all the damn time and we've lived here for almost 3 years. I think they're just stupid. One is probably still a puppy because his tail gets to wagging when he's barking, but the other one makes me nervous. Whenever we pull up in the driveway next to the fence and he's out, he doesn't bark right away. He waits for us to get out of the car and walk close to him and then starts snarling and barking. The little bastard is going for maximum fright from the kids and it pisses me off. I think that this breed is often owned by people who don't give them adequate training.

Someone mentioned Chows and I think they are also dangerous, probably because of their limited peripheral vision.


yes most people are too ignorant to know how to train a pitbull properly.

or lazy. I'm amazing at training dogs. pure and simple

when it was possible i would walk her 10 miles a day, pretty damn far.

and shes as happy as can be. they dont even bark, at toher dogs or people.

but hey, most people are stupid fucks.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2009 08:21 am
@OGIONIK,
this just happened a week ago.

im walking my dog around and all these people ask me if i have ehard aboutt he police shooting the pitbull. im like no what?

i visit my firends house and apparently the east side of las vegas ebcame really ghetto, people robbin everyone at gunpoint, helicopters all night.. etc..

and hes like hey the guy across the street, his pitbull got shot by the police.this guy was driving drunk and got stopped and ran into h i backyard.im like wow crazy...

wait so the dog didnt even attack the drunk guy?

they didnt even walk into the yard, they just shot the dog as the guy as trying to call it inside. and the police were in my friends backyard 4 days before that happened.

he was like man im so glad i put them inside.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2009 08:30 am
@OGIONIK,
and one more thing, the "pitbull" attacks in the news, the chances the dog is a pure pitbull is highly unlikely.


i just went thru pitbullforums.com "news" section and read a large number of articles, i only saw a couple pitbulls, the rest were lab mixes, mastiff mixes etc. i was like wtf. a half pit is not a pit.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2009 08:39 am
@Ticomaya,
Pitt bulls have one rational use far as I can tell, which is hog hunting. Try to sic a doberman or shepherd on a wild boar and nine times out of ten he'll look at you like you've clearly lost your mind; the pitt bull will think "WOW, I get to KILL the PIG, THANK YOU MASTER!!!!" and be off after him.

The idea of keeping pitt bulls in urban or suburban areas is basically criminal and should be treated as such. That's basically another rationale for having a compound bow around.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2009 08:42 am
@gungasnake,
i disagree.

they dont even make good guard dogs.
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DANIELLE-87
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2009 10:37 pm
@Ticomaya,
i understand where you are coming from....... but at the same time this can be true for any animal! you cannot necesserily trust or mistrust any animal just because of their size or breed. for instance i am a proud owner of two wonderful pitbulls. sweet loving and have never given me a reason not to trust them, on the other hand i also owned a small daschund who i thought i could trust to be around me and me not have to worry about him attacking until i was playing around with my husband and he bit me right in the mouth and he did not let go!!! so im not saying that you should trust all animals but im just saying you should be careful even if you think you can trust them.

I ALSO AGREE WITH YOU OGIONIK THEY MAKE LOUSY WATCH DOGS. MINE NEVER EVEN BARK!!! AND I HAVE TWO!!
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 22 May, 2009 11:40 am
Any bets on whether the dog is indeed a pit bull?

Quote:
Posted: Friday May 22, 2009 1:07PM; Updated: Friday May 22, 2009 1:07PM
Harrison's son victim in dog attack

The son of Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker James Harrison was transported to a Pittsburgh hospital Friday after being bitten by the family's dog, believed to be a pit bull, according to WTAE Channel 4 Action News.

The station's Web site described the injuries as "severe, but non life-threatening." A representative of Children's Hospital in Pittsburgh declined to comment on the report.

The site went on to say, "Harrison, of Ohio Township, has a pit bull, but it's not known if that dog is the same one that attacked his child," who was born in 2007. It also quoted Steelers spokesman Burt Lauten, who said in a statement: "We are aware of the situation but this is a personal matter for James."

...
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 22 May, 2009 11:42 am
@Ticomaya,
Is a pit, per the neighbor, as quoted in the Post-Gazette. Shocker.

Quote:
Steelers' Harrison's son bitten by his pit bull
Friday, May 22, 2009
By Lillian Thomas, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Steelers are calling a dog attack on linebacker James Harrison Jr.'s son a "personal matter" and say they have no other comment.

According to a neighbor, one of three pit bulls in Mr. Harrison's home on Matterhorn Drive in Franklin Park got loose yesterday afternoon and attacked the child, James Harrison III. Another family member may also have been injured in the attack.

The neighbor did not want to be identified.

Mr. Harrison, 31, the NFL defensive player of the year last season, could not be reached for comment. He was apparently notified of the attack yesterday and went home on a motorcycle, the neighbor said.

According to the neighbor, an ambulance went to the house in the late afternoon and took two people to the hospital. James Harrison III is in Children's Hospital. The hospital said the family has asked that no information about him be released.

Another neighbor who also did not want to be identified said a Franklin Park police officer knocked on her door around 6 p.m.

"The officer was warning us to keep our children inside because [Mr. Harrison's] dog had bit somebody. He said to keep everybody inside until it was resolved."

Triangle Animal Control Inc. went to the house. A person answering the phone there said that the employee who had taken the dog away was not available and that no one else had knowledge of the case.

A Steelers spokesman said "we're aware of the situation - it's a personal matter for James."
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Fri 22 May, 2009 03:06 pm
We bred them into existence and should--because of their threat--breed them out of existence. But we should not kill any living dog
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