OGIONIK
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 07:38 pm
A study conducted by the American Temperament Test Society simply rejects this notion. In December of 2003, a temperament test was given to dog breeds around the country, and a score was given based on the proportion of the animals that passed over the animals that failed. The final results gave the American Pit Bull Terrier a passing rate of 83.9%, which was slightly better than that of the "docile" Golden Retriever -- 83.2%.




what do you have to say about that? id really like your opinion of it.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 08:11 pm
OGIONIK wrote:
A study conducted by the American Temperament Test Society simply rejects this notion. In December of 2003, a temperament test was given to dog breeds around the country, and a score was given based on the proportion of the animals that passed over the animals that failed. The final results gave the American Pit Bull Terrier a passing rate of 83.9%, which was slightly better than that of the "docile" Golden Retriever -- 83.2%.




what do you have to say about that? id really like your opinion of it.


[url=http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3190176#3190176] Earlier in this thread, Ticomaya[/url] wrote:
dagmaraka wrote:
.... the two bad bites of my life were from a cocker spaniel and a westie...of course that doesn't make the news.


That's because the cockers and westies don't normally kill or seriously maim people when they bite. They bite and let go, and they don't bite with the ferocity or strength of a pit bull. They are not inherently dangerous animals.


I could add Golden Retriever to the list. I'm not worried about these dogs.

The Beagle (Snoopy) and Collie (Lassie) have lower scores than the American Pit Bull on that test. And as one might suspect, the Chihuahua has perhaps the lowest score.

You might imagine I don't give this test much credence.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 08:35 pm
i love how you are dismissing credible evidence.. LOL

But its not like im used to ignoring propoganda and "hype" or anything.


well, you have your opinion, i have my facts. funny, there was a fatal mauling by a dog i just read about. it wasnt a pitbull, and they didnt mention its breed anywhere. wonder why?

One HAS to wonder, why all the pitbull hate? seriously. are pitbulls that amazing that everyone has to hate on them?
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 10:19 pm
Okay, so if they're well trained, they aren't dangerous, right? Now, here's a story about a pit with a choke collar dragging it's owner down the street. Bad dog owner, or do the things just go beserk?

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the dog that sticks his head out and tries to bite people?

i walked by again goin to the store, on the far side, as soon as he stuck his head through my dog went into full frenzy mode pulling me towards him as hard as she could, i mean my feet were sliding over the asphalt she was pulling so hard, i was leaning against the leash and she got tired after a few seconds so i got control back. (I DIDNT HAVE HER HARNESS ON, SHE WAS ON THE CHOKE CHAIN,HOW THE ****?!?!)

MAN i feel bad for anyone who gets between me or my dog again, thats insane.

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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 10:28 pm
Quote:
funny, there was a fatal mauling by a dog i just read about. it wasnt a pitbull, and they didnt mention its breed anywhere. wonder why?


Oh, that was the one?

I'm sure everyone just assumed it was a pit, since it usually is.

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One HAS to wonder, why all the pitbull hate? seriously. are pitbulls that amazing that everyone has to hate on them?


My guess it has to do with their vicious and dangerous nature, the fact they are bred to attack, and all of the maulings and killings of humans and other dogs, more than anything.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 09:49 am
Hamster if not raised to be around people are very aggressive and mean and bite! I've experienced this with a really mean little guy that was never handled - you put your hand in the cage and they thing would attack and give you a good bite.

A rattlesnake on the other hand is not very aggressive and tends to shy away rather than bite.

I still would rather get that mean hamster bite though.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 06:49 am
Pitbulls by cloning, now. Oh dear.

But a nice story: note the original animal saved the owner from an attack.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/aug/06/genetics.korea
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honey rose cr
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 10:11 am
I wouldn't buy a pit bull because I do see them as dangerous. I mean any dog could be dangerous, they're so unpredictable. I've been bitten by my boyfriend's mum's German Shepard twice now, and that's just because it has been so poorly trained which makes me ANGRY. It's a purebreed aswell, so that's gone to waste.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 10:13 am
Ticomaya wrote:
Quote:
funny, there was a fatal mauling by a dog i just read about. it wasnt a pitbull, and they didnt mention its breed anywhere. wonder why?


Oh, that was the one?

I'm sure everyone just assumed it was a pit, since it usually is.

Quote:
One HAS to wonder, why all the pitbull hate? seriously. are pitbulls that amazing that everyone has to hate on them?


My guess it has to do with their vicious and dangerous nature, the fact they are bred to attack, and all of the maulings and killings of humans and other dogs, more than anything.


good thing they arent bred to attack people! at least were on the same page.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 10:16 am
now a german sheperd, thats bred too attack humans, a doberman, same thing.

i say its environment, not breed.



by the way, that dog attacked her FIRST, id do the same thing if a person attacked me, id attack them back. fair and square.im sure you would let somebody hit you and not do anything about it. thats fine and dandy.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 10:17 am
let me guess, youd phone the police and then when they got there your assailant would be gone anyway.

right on.

im psychic Smile
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 12:06 pm
OGIONIK wrote:
now a german sheperd, thats bred too attack humans, a doberman, same thing.


Proof?
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 12:29 pm
LOL, THATS WHAT IVE BEEN ASKING FROM YOU THIS WHOLE THREAD.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 12:32 pm
OGIONIK wrote:
LOL, THATS WHAT IVE BEEN ASKING FROM YOU THIS WHOLE THREAD.


What do you want proof of?

I present as Exhibit A all of the newspaper accounts I have posted in this thread.


But if you're going to assert that German Shepherds and Dobermans are "bred to attack humans," I'd like to see you attempt some effort to substantiate. (But we both know you were just blowing smoke out of your ass, don't we?)
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 12:34 pm
am am definitely sure its the other way around, newspaper articles are not proof pitbulls are bred to attack humans.

they are in fact, the opposite.

bred to not attack humans.

thanks for trying!
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 01:21 pm
OGIONIK wrote:
am am definitely sure its the other way around, newspaper articles are not proof pitbulls are bred to attack humans.

they are in fact, the opposite.

bred to not attack humans.

thanks for trying!


"What we got here is... failure to communicate."

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/4752/coolhandluke42zw7.jpg

You asserted German Shepherds and Dobermans are "bred to attack humans."

I disagree, and requested proof of your assertion, which you appear to be unwilling or unable to provide.

Now, somehow you have managed to conclude the newspaper articles which I offered as Exhibit A (to prove whatever it is you were asking for proof of) were somehow intended to prove pitbulls are bred to attack humans ( -- a position I've never asserted, and do not believe to be true, btw. )

I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to provide both sides of this intelligent discussion, Ogionik. Please do your part.


(BTW, that is a classic line from a classic movie, which I'm sure you are too young to have seen. Cool Hand Luke. It's at Blockbuster.)
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 01:26 pm
And your choice of characters to speak for you is intriguing, counselor...
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2008 06:30 pm
i gave you ample evidence that pitbulls are less prone to bite then even golden retrievers, are golden retrievers running around biting people?

you give me news articles, which are widely known in the pitbull enthusiast world to be completely and utterly biased in the first place. oh noez a scary dog bite someone.

yeah, a dog that wasnt properly taken care of. so many people get pitbulls because of the "cool" factor, dont train them, dont excerise them, dont keep control of them, they escape, and what do you have? a dog thats gonna bite. And, they dont even know the proper way to raise a dog like a pit, they dont socialise their dogs, they just randomly expose them to strange dogs. they dont monitor their dogs aggression levels, give them stuff to chew on etc.. they just go, oh hey, check out my cool dog, isnt it cool looking? i cropped his ears with scissors when he was 3 months old.

GEEGEE!

im not even talking about the people who abuse them to make them mean, like on of my , err, friends. who when i was petting his dog said "oh dont do that, it makes em nice"

what do you THINK is going to happen when a dog that is being neglected, might i dare say "trained", to make it *mean* does when it escapes?

lick people?


maybe im being biased, its funny though, because the pitbull enthusiasts i talk to all agree that pitbulls that bite should be euthanized, according to the situation. almost everyone of them has said their dog has never bit anyone. they could be lying i suppose, or they could just be people who care about their dogs and take care of them the proper way.

i still dont know anyone with a pit, THAT TAKES CARE OF IT THE PROPER WAY, which has bitten someone.


you see, to even be outside and to bite someone, the pitbull is not being taken care of.

i can say that all day, but your ignorance on dog behavior is obvious.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2008 06:33 pm
oh, i was sorta mocking you when i said dobermans were bred to attack humans.

:/
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2008 06:34 pm
my point still stands!

if anything, pitbulls were bred to attack other dogs.

your right, a failure to communicate.
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