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Illegal immigration - no top issue now?

 
 
Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 03:16 am
Anti-immigration activists are redoubling their efforts to pass laws at the state and local level that aim to identify and isolate illegal immigrants according to this report @ Chicago Tribune: Immigration issue rerouted to state level as national interest wanes


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Illegal Immigration, a hot-button populist issue that many experts had expected to top the nation's political concerns this year, has largely vanished from the presidential campaign amid waning interest from voters and mounting delays in constructing a 670-mile border fence between the United States and Mexico.

Moreover, primary results and opinion polls in recent months indicate that the Republican Party's emphasis on a crackdown against illegal immigrants may be driving many Hispanic voters?-a crucial electoral bloc in November's election ?- into the Democratic fold.

"For any candidates anywhere in the country, I don't think it's demonstrated that combating illegal Immigration is an issue that controls people's votes," said David Hill, a leading Republican pollster in Houston who has termed illegal Immigration a "dud issue" for his party. "Immigration is unlike health care or the economy, both of which have a more intimate impact on people's lives."
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Now, however, anti-Immigration activists, chagrined that their issue is sputtering at the national level as American voters turn their attention to the faltering economy, are resigning themselves to the likelihood that the next occupant of the White House, either Democrat or Republican, may well try to resurrect an Immigration compromise.

Instead, they are redoubling their efforts to pass laws at the state and local level that aim to identify and isolate illegal immigrants; deny them jobs, apartments or public services; and restrict the use of Spanish or other languages by government agencies or officials. More than 1,500 such laws were introduced last year in state legislatures across the country. In the first two months of this year, 350 more Immigration-related measures were put forward.

"You have to expect reversals or lulls in this business, and this may be another lull," said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the conservative Center for Immigration Studies in Washington. "But in no way does this suggest that the moment has passed and it's all over. It's still a big issue at the state level, and it will still be an issue in congressional elections."

Others are fine-tuning their message, emphasizing what they regard as the economic harm illegal immigrants cause.

"Immigration this year is probably less an issue of national security, though it will continue to accelerate to be an economic issue," said Bob Dane, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform. "We have certainly taken the tack of explaining how having 12 million illegal immigrants in the country is displacing jobs, costing localities extra social service money and compounding an already deteriorating economic situation."

For their part, Immigration reformers say the victory of the more moderate McCain over several Republican primary rivals who favored strict Immigration crackdowns proves that the campaign against illegal immigrants has backfired.

"The whole point of the hard-core anti-immigrant stance was to galvanize Republican voters and turn them out," said Cecilia Munoz, senior vice president of the National Council of La Raza, a leading Hispanic civil rights group. "It did not galvanize the voters who were the intended targets, but it sure galvanized Latino voters. We have tripled our electoral turnout this year."

Those who advocate normalizing the status of illegal immigrants also are pleased that the controversial plan to construct 670 miles of new fencing between the U.S. and Mexico by the end of 2008 has run into obstacles and delays. Fence critics hope that the next administration in Washington will rethink the $1.2 billion project.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 05:46 pm
Iraq
WMD
is the issue.

Regret
Repent
Sorry
Excuse me
are the words that will rejuvenate the unfulfilled AMERICAN DREAM
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2008 04:06 pm
Illegal
Immigrants????????
Is USA a legal, legitimate, intellectual, non-corporate MLK's land?
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 03:03 pm
Let's see if they're still illegals in four years, or on their way to citizenship?
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 03:06 pm
How about chasing away the illegal immigrants in Iraq?
There the GI's of USA are illegal in the legal terms.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 03:09 pm
Foofie wrote:
Let's see if they're still illegals in four years, or on their way to citizenship?


I suppose, you'll find illegals everywhere, at all times and in all countries.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 03:21 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Foofie wrote:
Let's see if they're still illegals in four years, or on their way to citizenship?


I suppose, you'll find illegals everywhere, at all times and in all countries.


I believe in a macro sense there is a world-wide population of people that have chosen to be stateless, in hopes of finding a better situation. It used to be just within one continent, I thought.

I think few want to admit that a portion of the world's population is actually nomadic.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 03:23 pm
Ramafuchs wrote:
How about chasing away the illegal immigrants in Iraq?
There the GI's of USA are illegal in the legal terms.


No. The U.S. Army are not immigrants. They came to give a democratic country to the Iraqis.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 03:53 pm
Views differ in a decent cultured democratic forum.
The best way to keep wolf from the door is wisht a sheepskin= The best way to keep the immigrants from the door is to stop the barbaric war and stealing the resources of the immigrant's birthplace.
Regards without remorse
Rama
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 04:45 pm
Let me go deep.
Is Jesus is an Immigrant in India?
or Germany?

How to stop this?
Where to start?
Is not Dalai lama an immigrant or /honourable citizen in darma Sala?

Double- no trible- our troubles.
Rama
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 05:26 pm
An honest employer who does things by the book would face an excruciating choice - to keep good workers despite dubious "no-match" letters and face harsh fines, or to fire them and face discrimination lawsuits.
The New York Times | Editorial

Thursday 27 March 2008


How about solving the jesus( a gentle human son of God) who had never visited vatican where a German unpaid advocate rules and never touched the soil of USA( though he communicate with Bushe's family) problem?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 17 Apr, 2008 04:37 am
Quote:
Hundreds Arrested In Immigration Raids
At Least 300 Workers Taken From Chicken Factories, Company Not Facing Any Charges


MOUNT PLEASANT, Texas, April 17, 2008

CBS/AP) Federal agents arrested hundreds of people in raids at Pilgrim's Pride chicken plants in five states, the latest crackdown on illegal immigrant labor at the nation's poultry producers.

In separate sweeps Wednesday, authorities also arrested dozens of workers at a doughnut factory in Houston and the operators of a chain of Mexican restaurants in upstate New York.

The arrests at Pittsburg, Texas-based Pilgrim's Pride Corp., the nation's largest chicken producer, included charges of identity theft, document fraud and immigration violations. The company worked with Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents ahead of the raid, said Ray Atkinson, a company spokesman.

"We knew in advance and cooperated fully," Atkinson said.

Julie Myers, homeland security assistant secretary for ICE, confirmed the company is cooperating, though she said the raids grew out of an investigation that produced arrests last year at the company's plant in Mount Pleasant.

No criminal or civil charges have been filed against Pilgrim's Pride, which has about 55,000 employees and operates dozens of facilities mostly in the South, Mexico and Puerto Rico, supplying the Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant chain and other customers.

ICE said nearly 300 were arrested, but Pilgrim's Pride officials said about 400 hourly, non-management employees were arrested.

"We have terminated all of the employees who were taken into custody and will terminate any employee who is found to have engaged in similar misconduct. We are investigating these allegations further," Atkinson said in a statement.

Forty-five people, all illegal immigrants, were arrested in Mount Pleasant on charges of false use of Social Security numbers, ICE said. More than 100 people were arrested on immigration violations in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and they could face criminal charges related to identity theft, the agency said. Another 100 were arrested on immigration charges in Moorefield, West Virginia.

More than 25 people face immigration violation charges in Live Oak, Florida. They will also face identity theft or document fraud charges, ICE said. More than 20 were arrested in Batesville, Arkansas, on federal warrants for alleged document fraud or identity theft.

A statement sent Wednesday by ICE to CBS News said "those arrested on federal criminal charges will be in the custody of the U.S. Marshals Service pending the outcome of their case. Others administratively arrested for immigration violations will be interviewed by ICE, and by the Department of Health's Division of Immigration Health Services, to determine if they have medical, caregiver, or other humanitarian issues."

Pilgrim's Pride has had previous trouble with employees in Arkansas. In January 2007, police arrested a manager at the company's De Queen plant who rented identification documents for $800 to get a job there.

The company has said its policy has been to fire employees who cannot clear up discrepancies in their documentation.

Wednesday's coordinated raids began at 5:30 a.m., said John Ratcliffe, U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Texas. He said agents went to homes as well as the plants.

Ratcliffe said authorities were working to ensure that any children of detained workers were getting proper care. Texas Child Protective Services spokeswoman Shari Pulliam said the agency was notified about the raid but has not had to take custody of any children.

"I hope that the message from today's operation is clear," Ratcliffe said. "We are intent on stopping immigration fraud and identity theft and we will aggressively prosecute anyone who uses another person's name or Social Security number for the purpose of working illegally in this country."


No criminal or civil charges have been filed against Pilgrim's Pride ...

BUT:

Forty-five people, all illegal immigrants, were arrested in Mount Pleasant on charges of false use of Social Security numbers, ICE said. More than 100 people were arrested on immigration violations in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and they could face criminal charges related to identity theft, the agency said. Another 100 were arrested on immigration charges in Moorefield, West Virginia.

More than 25 people face immigration violation charges in Live Oak, Florida. They will also face identity theft or document fraud charges, ICE said. More than 20 were arrested in Batesville, Arkansas, on federal warrants for alleged document fraud or identity theft.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Thu 17 Apr, 2008 05:50 pm
Is jesus a legal immigrant?

Had he green card to sip the soup?
Change
Change
Corporate controlled compassionate drama.
Forget about the embedded journalists and non iintellectual INTELLIGENCE.
let other's die so that U people can preach sermon about decency.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 25 Apr, 2008 03:57 pm
Immigrants are all illegal.
USA's 90 percent of the population are immigrants( Legalized)
Jesus is an immigrant around the globe but adored.
Your candidates past history is nothing to do with local citizens..
Dare to make Illegal or legal immigrant issue as the main topic for picking up the next immigant of White house.
Let the innocent Iraq's citizen die for your pleasure.
What a lovely world I still endure!!
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