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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jun, 2010 10:37 am
@okie,
okie wrote:
when we defeat Soros, we also defeat the Democratic Party. After all, are they one and the same now?

By the way, are we sure that cyclops is not a George Soros clone posting on this forum, ican?

The Odem is Soros's party. He bought it, he owns it.

I cannot tell whether or not Soros is a Saul Alinsky clone or Saul Alinsky was a Soros clone--Alinsky died in 1972!

I cannot even tell whether or not Cyclops is a Soros clone in addition to being an Alinsky clone.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jun, 2010 01:11 pm
ican is a Homer Simpson clone.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jun, 2010 01:34 pm
@MontereyJack,
Monterey Jack lacks a rational rebuttal. Is he also an Odem! clone?
ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jun, 2010 01:59 pm
@ican711nm,
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DISCLOSE ACT - WE MUST DEFEAT THIS BILL
Dear Fellow Tea Party Patriots,

We have received information from Capitol Hill regarding the "Disclose Act" and we must work to defeat this bill. The vote is expected to take place tonight or tomorrow.

On April 29, 2010, Congressman Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) introduced H.R. 5175, the Democracy is Strengthened by Casting Light on Spending in Elections (DISCLOSE) Act. The bill is a direct response to Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (McCain- Feingold) - a First Amendment victory in which the Supreme Court overturned the prohibition on corporations and unions using treasury funds for independent expenditures supporting or opposing political candidates at any time of the year. Simply put, the DISCLOSE Act will limit the political speech that was protected and encouraged by Citizens United.

Speaker Pelosi and the House Majority Leadership are making it a priority to pass this bill. This bill is designed to take away the influence of Tea Party and other conservative groups in the upcoming November election. We feel like this bill will be successfully challenged in the courts, but the ruling will not come before the November election.

An exemption has been carved out for the Labor Unions and other leftist advocacy groups. The NRA was also exempted so they would not oppose it.

Roll Call Magazine reports today that they have carved out even deeper exemptions in order to assure passage and we believe it clearly shows the intent of the bill is to diminish the effectiveness of Tea Party groups and other newer conservative advocacy groups.

"Facing wide-ranging blowback from an exemption tailored for the National Rifle Association, House Democratic leaders have decided to expand the carve-out from disclosure requirements in a campaign finance measure they are trying to pass this week.

The new standard lowers the membership requirement for outside groups from 1 million members to 500,000. Those groups would still need to have members in 50 states, have existed for 10 years and can accept no more than 15 percent of their funding from corporate or union sources. The broader bill, called the DISCLOSE Act, comes in response to the controversial Supreme Court decision in January that struck down limits on corporate and union spending in elections. The bill would force groups participating in elections to name their top donors, among other changes."

...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jun, 2010 02:05 pm
@MontereyJack,
Home Simpson has a higher IQ.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jun, 2010 02:09 pm
@cicerone imposter,
(Hi, Tak. I hope you have been well. Have you been traveling? Where are the pictures?)
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jun, 2010 02:15 pm
@realjohnboy,
Hi, rjb, Had a great trip to the Peru Amazon last month. You can visit my travelogue at travelpod.com. Look for me as c.i.222. I've posted over 50 of my journeys there, and will continue to add my older trips as my interest remains. 3

I'm going to Turkey and Greece at the end of this month, then to the Norwegian Coastal Cruise in September, and to South India in November. Also looking for cruises with another private travel company who does cruises on Oceania, but I need a roommate to keep my cost down.

I'm at the public library to use their internet for one hour.
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okie
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jun, 2010 02:20 pm
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

Monterey Jack lacks a rational rebuttal. Is he also an Odem! clone?

Obamabots don't have to be clones. They already have robotic liberal thinking. Obama was cut out of the same old cloth that all liberals were made from. Apply a little liberal college indoctrination, get them all together as a rent-a-mob and shout "change" together, or pay them to fraudulantly register more voters, and like magic, more Obamabots.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jun, 2010 02:25 pm
@okie,
What exactly is "liberal thinking?" Please be concise in your answer.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jun, 2010 05:29 pm
@MontereyJack,
Poor Homer! He's smarter than that!
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 20 Jun, 2010 05:32 pm
@cicerone imposter,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfOJ-jYMPT0
okie
 
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Reply Mon 21 Jun, 2010 08:30 pm
@plainoldme,
pom, who cares?
ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2010 05:13 pm
Quote:
DISCLOSE ACT back on the calendar for tomorrow June 23, 2010! We must stop this 1st Amendment killing legislation. They are trying to stop our voices!

We have received information from Capitol Hill regarding the "Disclose Act" and we must work to defeat this bill. The vote is expected to take place tonight or tomorrow. We encourage you to find out more information about the DISCLOSE Act in the links below.

On April 29, 2010, Congressman Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) introduced H.R. 5175, the Democracy is Strengthened by Casting Light on Spending in Elections (DISCLOSE) Act. The bill is a direct response to Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (McCain- Feingold) - a First Amendment victory in which the Supreme Court overturned the prohibition on corporations and unions using treasury funds for independent expenditures supporting or opposing political candidates at any time of the year. Simply put, the DISCLOSE Act will limit the political speech that was protected and encouraged by Citizens United.

Speaker Pelosi and the House Majority Leadership are making it a priority to pass this bill. This bill is designed to take away the influence of Tea Party and other conservative groups in the upcoming November election. We feel like this bill will be successfully challenged in the courts, but the ruling will not come before the November election.

An exemption has been carved out for the Labor Unions and other leftist advocacy groups. The NRA was also exempted so they would not actively oppose it.

Roll Call Magazine reports today that they have carved out even deeper exemptions in order to assure passage and we believe it clearly shows the intent of the bill is to diminish the effectiveness of Tea Party groups and other newer conservative advocacy groups.

"Facing wide-ranging blowback from an exemption tailored for the National Rifle Association, House Democratic leaders have decided to expand the carve-out from disclosure requirements in a campaign finance measure they are trying to pass this week.

The new standard lowers the membership requirement for outside groups from 1 million members to 500,000. Those groups would still need to have members in 50 states, have existed for 10 years and can accept no more than 15 percent of their funding from corporate or union sources. The broader bill, called the DISCLOSE Act, comes in response to the controversial Supreme Court decision in January that struck down limits on corporate and union spending in elections. The bill would force groups participating in elections to name their top donors, among other changes."
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2010 08:14 pm
@plainoldme,
Post real analysis and you get voted down. C'est dommage!
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2010 08:16 pm
The Texas branch of the GOP has an interesting plank in its platform. It plans to promote a new state law banning oral sex as their previous law was overturned by the SC.

I would guess there are a lot of unhappy folks in Texas or there might be in the near future.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2010 09:26 pm
@plainoldme,
Aw! Crying or Very sad

Someone doesn't like poor old Homer!
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2010 09:27 pm
@okie,
Touchy, touchy!
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2010 07:56 am
Perhaps, this blog has something to say to the American right:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/the-anosognosics-dilemma-1/?hp
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2010 08:59 am
This thread -- indeed, this forum -- demonstrates that the right is never happy with answer it receives from the left. Frankly, the right isn't even content with answers from the center as those who begin their posts with, "I'm not a liberal," have discovered.

Cut and paste the words of a professor of political science, a sociologist who has spent years on a study, a biologist working in the field and some right winger whose only claim to education is a business degree or two years at a community college in general studies jumps up and down like an angry Rumpelstiltskin, announcing the authority in question is totally wrong simply because Rumpel perceives this scholar to be a liberal.

Cut and paste the words of another authority in support of the same issue and Rumpel's twin screams, "You never write what you think! You rely on the what others say!"

So, for the next week or two, the left-leaning poster writes his/her opinion. Another rightie comes out of the woodwork to denounce the liberal, "You never back up what you write! You pull this stuff out of your a$$!"

Some of us went to Catholic schools, where the nuns demanded that an authority stand behind what we say . . . it is part and parcel of Catholicism and the Catholic weltanschauung. Of course, we cite chapter and verse!

For some reason, the right dislikes it when people with degrees in biology or physical anthropology discuss evolution. The right prefers to listen to words of a Kentucky preacher who attended Bible College. The right dislikes political scientists contributing to a discussion of government. Within the past week, two prominent righties rejected the words of people whose knowledge of political systems are superior to theirs. Rachel Maddow is all wet in okie's eyes because she is a leftie. The funny thing is she said something that should have warmed his cockles, that is, that what passes for a left in America thinks as Nixon did and that the right marched further to the right. Georgeob "dissed" the conclusions of BU environmental law professor Zygmunt Plater, who chaired the Alaska oil spill commission legal research task force following the Exxon Valdez. Arguing against the conclusions of a man with a law degree who has been a member of several legal faculties and who was hands-on in the Exxon Valdez matter is sheer . . . well . . . you name it.

Such rejection is not rugged individualism. It's being anosognosic.
okie
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2010 09:47 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

This thread -- indeed, this forum -- demonstrates that the right is never happy with answer it receives from the left. Frankly, the right isn't even content with answers from the center as those who begin their posts with, "I'm not a liberal," have discovered.

Thats because many liberals are not honest and like to claim they aren't liberals when they actually are, that they are somehow independents or moderates. I think I have encountered that more than once here.
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