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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 08:06 pm
@JTT,
Once upon a time, not long after WWII, the Republican and Democratic parties were closer together and each had liberal and conservative wings. The Democrats stayed, sadly, in the center while the Republicans decamped to the right.
okie
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 08:45 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

Once upon a time, not long after WWII, the Republican and Democratic parties were closer together and each had liberal and conservative wings. The Democrats stayed, sadly, in the center while the Republicans decamped to the right.

I beg to differ, pom. I know you will accuse me of being way off in regard to this, but I have to tell you that the Democratic Party has veered so far left as to be almost unrecognizable of its former self. I do not know where you gain your impressions about Democrats and Republicans and left vs right, but your impressions seem very bizarre in comparison to mine and to the beliefs of the people I know. I suspect you get yours from academia or friends of yours that are so liberal as to have totally lost their balance. What evidence do I have, you may ask?

First of all, my parents were FDR Democrats and voted Democratic probably until around 1960, at which time they began to believe that the Democratic Party was leaving them. Do you remember Reagan saying the party left him, he did not leave the party. Reagan was a Democrat, but he switched parties in 1962. My dad, a World War II vet in the Pacific, was so incensed by the likes of Bill Clinton and John Kerry that he would not only not vote Democratic anymore, he despised them and literally considered them virtual traitors.

Another point, JFK used very conservative economic policy by instituting tax rate cuts, which in fact stimulated tax revenues, and such a policy would not see the light of day or gain any credit within the Democratic Party of today. JFK was also very anti-communist. Foreign policy, no self respecting Democrat from decades ago would play nice to leftists and dictators like Hugo Chavez, Castro, and others, absolutely no way, but Democats do today. Also, culturally, you would not have had hardly any Democrats pushing Gay marriage, abortion, and all of the other crap coming down the pike. I think as a culture, we have moved left, and such movement has tended to drag both parties somewhat left, but the Demcrats far more than the Republicans.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 09:03 am
I asked somewhere whether any reads economists, so now I will ask whether anyone grounds their political ideas in a philosophy. Does anyone read recent political theorists?
ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 03:28 pm
@plainoldme,
Some of Ican's economics training and reading:
1949-1953, Engineering Economics, BSEE
1957-1958, Engineering Economics, MSEE
1980-1984, Business Economics, MBA
2007-2008, "Basic Economics, A Common Sense Guide to the Economy," by Thomas Sowell

A few of Ican's relatively recent political philosophy RE-readings in the years indicated:
1980: "The Declaration of Independence," John Hancock, et al
1980, "The Constitution of the United States of America," G. Washington, et al
1980, "The "Federalist Papers, Hamilton, Madison, Jay," edited by Clinton Rossiter
1980, "Thomas Paine Reader," edited by Michael Foot and Isaac Krammick
1992, "Nineteen Eighty-Four," George Orwell

A few of Ican's relatively recent political philosophy readings in the years indicated:
2009, Barack Obama's Rules for Revolution The Alinsky Model," David Horowitz
2010, "Reveille for Radicals," Saul Alinsky
2010, "Rules for Radicals," Saul Alinsky

And I shouldn't forget to list this:
September 9, 2009, President Obama's prepared remarks to Joint Session of Congress, as provided by the White House
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okie
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 05:25 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

I asked somewhere whether any reads economists, so now I will ask whether anyone grounds their political ideas in a philosophy. Does anyone read recent political theorists?

I have at least read Thomas Sowell's book "Basic Economics," have you? From many of the things you post here in regard to economics, you seem to have a very poor grasp of the basics, so if you have not read it, I would highly recommend it, I believe it could help you alot.

In regard to political theorists, I do not read liberals ideas much, I would consider that a waste of time. I do read opinion columns on a regular basis, and I do listen to much talk radio, which is mostly about political theory and current events. If you do not, I would highly recommend it to you, pom, it could be highly enlightening to you.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 07:42 pm
so what you're saying, okie, is that you only read, listen to, and watch extreme right wing spin and cant. So you're essentially brainwashing yourself. No wonder you have no accurate idea of what socialism is, what Obama's policies (or background) actually are, how Obamanomics made the economy work again (as even Business Week has admitted), or what liberals actually believe or do.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 08:06 pm
You might take your own advice, okie, and pay attention to some liberal stuff--it might prove highly enlightening to you.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 08:29 pm
@okie,
The only other person to tell that tired story is David. Which one of you is the sock puppet?
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okie
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 09:13 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

so what you're saying, okie, is that you only read, listen to, and watch extreme right wing spin and cant. So you're essentially brainwashing yourself. No wonder you have no accurate idea of what socialism is, what Obama's policies (or background) actually are, how Obamanomics made the economy work again (as even Business Week has admitted), or what liberals actually believe or do.
No, and what you call the "extreme right," I consider to be reasonable and decent Americans, instead of the extreme left socialists and Marxist sympathizers that I don't particularly have much respect for. And I do not believe Obamanomics is working, after all where is the evidence? As to what liberals believe or do, I think I have a pretty good handle on it, its in the news every day, and it isn't particularly encouraging or uplifting.
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 09:17 pm
@McGentrix,
So much for that McCain presidency eh? My guess would be that we would be in the midst of WWIII if that dimwit had won.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2010 10:10 pm
okie says:
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And I do not believe Obamanomics is working, after all where is the evidence? As to what liberals believe or do, I think I have a pretty good handle on it, its in the news every day, and it isn't particularly encouraging or uplifting.
You really should stop listening to yoyur little circle of right wing spinmeisters, okie.

So glad you asked, okie. Yes, Obamanomics is working. Read it and weep.
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Why the Obama economics plan is working
Ignore polls, watch the markets: Economy is perking up
By Mike Dorning
Business Week
updated 12:58 p.m. ET, Fri., April 9, 2010
It's never easy to separate politics from policy, and the past 18 months have only increased the degree of difficulty. The U.S. has been through a historic financial crisis followed by a historic election and a series of historic federal gambles " from bailing out AIG and GM to passing a $787 billion stimulus and a $940 billion health-care reform bill. All that risk has made policy more complicated and politics more fraught ("You lie," "Baby killer").

A Bloomberg national poll in March found that Americans, by an almost 2-to-1 margin, believe the economy has gotten worse rather than better during the past year. The Market begs to differ. While President Obama's overall job approval rating has fallen to a new low of 44 percent, according to a CBS News Poll, down five points from late March, the judgment of the financial indexes has turned resoundingly positive. The Standard & Poor's 500-stock index is up more than 74 percent from its recessionary low in March 2009. Corporate bonds have been rallying for a year. Commodity prices have surged. International currency markets have been bullish on the dollar for months, raising it by almost 10 percent since Nov. 25 against a basket of six major currencies. Housing prices have stabilized. Mortgage rates are low. "We've had a phenomenal run in asset classes across the board," says Dan Greenhaus, chief economic strategist for Miller Tabak + Co., an institutional trading firm in New York. "If Obama was a Republican, we would hear a never-ending drumbeat of news stories about markets voting in favor of the President." Little more than a year ago, financial markets were in turmoil, major auto companies were on the verge of collapse and economists such as Paul Krugman were worried about the U.S. slumbering through a Japan-like Lost Decade. While no one would claim that all the pain is past or the danger gone, the economy is growing again, jumping to a 5.6 percent annualized growth rate in the fourth quarter of 2009 as businesses finally restocked their inventories. The consensus view now calls for 3 percent growth this year, significantly higher than the 2.1 percent estimate for 2010 that economists surveyed by Bloomberg News saw coming when Obama first moved into the Oval Office.



The U.S. manufacturing sector has expanded for eight straight months, the Business Roundtable's measure of CEO optimism reached its highest level since early 2006, and in March the economy added 162,000 jobs " more than it had during any month in the past three years. "There is more business confidence out there," says Boeing CEO Jim McNerney. "This Administration deserves significant credit."
It is worth stepping back to consider, in cool-headed policy terms, how all of this came to be " and whether the Obama team's approach amounts to a set of successful emergency measures or a new economic philosophy: Obamanomics.

For most of the past two decades, the reigning economic approach in Democratic circles has been Rubinomics, a set of priorities fashioned in the 1990s by Bill Clinton's Treasury Secretary, Robert E. Rubin, the former co-chairman of Goldman Sachs. Broadly, Rubinomics was a three-legged stool consisting of restrained government spending, lower budget deficits, and open trade, which were meant in combination to reassure financial markets, keep capital flowing, and thus put the country on a path to prosperity.


On the surface, Obamanomics couldn't be more different. The Administration racked up record deficits as it pursued a $787 billion fiscal stimulus on top of the $700 billion bailout fund for banks and carmakers. Obama has done close to nothing to expand free trade. And while Clinton pleased the markets with a moderate, probusiness image, Obama has riled Wall Street with occasional bursts of populist rhetoric, such as his slamming of "fat cat bankers" on 60 Minutes last December.


The rallying markets haven't been bothered by these differences, largely because of their context. Martin Baily, who was a chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers during the Clinton Administration, says he suspects Rubin and the rest of the Clinton economic team would have made similar decisions " on bailouts, fiscal stimulus, and deficit spending " had they faced a crisis of similar magnitude. "I think we would have gone the same way," he says. The Obama team, he continues, navigated the financial crisis while never losing sight of the importance of private enterprise and private markets (a point Obama stressed in his Feb. 9 interview with Bloomberg BusinessWeek). "A lot of people on the left were urging them to nationalize banks. Instead they injected capital, and now they're pulling capital out. That looks more like Rubinomics than a set of socialist or left-wing economic policies." The Obama economic team looks a lot like Rubin's, too; three of its most prominent members " Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, National Economic Council Chairman Larry Summers, and White House budget director Peter Orszag " are Rubin protégés.

While the Administration's call for a consumer financial protection agency has aroused opposition from banks, Obama's regulatory reform plan largely leaves the financial industry's structure intact and ignores proposals to break up large financial institutions, unlike the reforms pursued after the Crash of 1929. Amid an uproar over bonuses at government-assisted banks, Obama for the most part chose to respect private employment contracts.

In short, Obama's instincts during the crisis were exceedingly Rubin-esque. Even the $787 billion stimulus package, while large by historical standards, didn't reach the scale called for by many liberal economists, including the chairman of his own Council of Economic Advisers, Christina Romer, who initially advocated spending more than $1 trillion. Today, Romer doesn't shy away from comparisons to the last Democratic Administration, but she also makes no grand claims about a new economic philosophy. What unites Rubinomics and Obamanomics, she says, "is the focus on results, the pragmatism of what's right for the economy. We each took the policy that was appropriate at the time."

The similarities go deeper. Like Clinton, Obama has tried to reduce income inequality. Clinton's 1993 deficit-reduction plan raised income tax rates for high-income families to 39.6 percent; Obama plans to return the top rate to the Clinton-era level. He also raised Medicare taxes for individuals earning over $200,000 to finance his health plan. Clinton aided the working poor with the Earned Income Tax Credit; Obama is doing the same with insurance subsidies in his health plan. A national health plan was an aspiration of both Presidents. Baily argues that the Obama approach is "at least in principle closer to Rubinomics than was the Clinton plan. [Obama's team] is trying to use market incentives to raise the quality and lower the cost, and that looks like Rubinomics."


Any comparison must take into account the vastly different circumstances each Administration confronted. Clinton entered office as the end of the Cold War generated a peace dividend, then rode the tech boom " and the tax-revenue-generating stock options that came with the runup in tech stock prices " to a balanced budget. Obama inherited two wars and the scariest financial crisis since the Great Depression. Clinton's deference to the bond market was necessary because long-term interest rates were high " above 7 percent on 30-year Treasury bonds " when he took office. Interest rates have been the least of Obama's concerns, with yields below 3 percent when he took office and the Fed effectively keeping short-term rates at zero.

Despite a budget deficit that is projected at $1.5 trillion this year, Obama wants to move the country toward the kind of fiscal balance it enjoyed fleetingly in the Clinton era, though his budget plans falls short of that. He recognizes that the federal debt load is unsupportable. Alan Greenspan " the tacit ally of Clinton and Rubin in the 1990s " warned last month that a recent uptick in yields on 10-year Treasury notes might signal a surge in long-term interest rates driven by investor anxiety over the budget shortfall.


Economic stabilization has not been Obama's handiwork alone. In the months before he took office, President George W. Bush and Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson halted a market free fall with the bank bailout. Obama's stimulus complemented the Federal Reserve's aggressive monetary easing. To build a floor for housing prices, the Fed intervened to support mortgage markets and the White House pledged unlimited financial backing for mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and rolled out tax credits for home buyers and mortgage modification programs to stave off foreclosures. It's the entire package that has made the difference.

"When you take it all together, the response was massive, unprecedented, and ultimately successful," says Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Economy.com. Even Obama critics like Phil Swagel, assistant Treasury secretary for economic policy under George W. Bush, acknowledge that White House policies have been successful. "They could have done a better job" by spending more of the stimulus on corporate tax cuts to boost hiring and investment, says Swagel, now an economics professor at Georgetown University's McDonough School of Business. "But their economic policies, including the stimulus, have helped move the economy in the right direction."

While jobs have been slow to return, the country has experienced "an incredible productivity boom" that strengthens the economy for an expansion, says Greenhaus of Miller Tabak. Labor productivity, or worker output per hour, grew at a 6.9 percent annual pace in the fourth quarter, capping the biggest one-year gain since 2002. Over the long run, productivity growth is what raises living standards. Corporate profits also have been rising, up 8 percent in the fourth quarter, putting businesses on a sounder financial foundation to invest and hire as customers return.

The public, alas, does not see the signs of life that economists do, as the downbeat views in the Bloomberg poll demonstrate. And as long as job security remains a concern, it's easy to understand why psychology may trump data. Among those who own stocks, bonds, or mutual funds, only 3 out of 10 say the value of their portfolio has risen since a year ago, according to the poll "a near-impossibility given the size and breadth of the market gains.


The early stages of an economic rebound do not bring political safe haven for Presidents. (Just ask George H.W. Bush, who won a war against Iraq only to lose reelection a year after the 1990-91 recession ended.) Obama, however, may now have reached a pivot point with the economy finally beginning to add jobs. "He can make great strides in short order," says Steven Jarding, a former Democratic campaign strategist who is now a lecturer at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government. "Any indicator he can build on is a good thing. He'll be able to focus all his energy and attention to say, 'Here's what happened this year in the economy.'"

With seven months to go before midterm elections, and more than two years before Obama reaches his own reelection day, there's still time for the President's policies to swing to his political advantage. Again, follow the money: Consumer spending has been rising for five straight months. That may not last, but it suggests Obama is already on the right track with voters' wallets. If the Clinton Administration is a trustworthy precedent"and job growth continues " their hearts and minds could follow.

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ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 27 May, 2010 09:39 am
THE ODEM (i.e., Obamademocrats) RECENT TOTAL CIVIL EMPLOYMENT RECOVERY IS VERY SMALL COMPARED TO WHAT THE UNEMPLOYED REQUIRE.
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ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt
Year………………………..USA Total Civil Employed
...
2001………………..............136,933,000 [BUSH43 2001 TO 2009]

2007...........................146,047,000

2008:
August........................ 145,273,000
September.................... 145,029,000
October....................... 144,650,007
November................... 144,144,000
December.................... 143,338,000

2009: [OBAMA 2009 TO ?]

January.................... 142,221 ,000
February................... 141,687 ,000
March......................140,854,000
April...................... 140,902,000
May........................ 140,438,000
June....................... 140,038,000
July....................... 139,817,000
August..................... 139,433,000
September................ 138,768,000
October.................... 138,242,000
November................... 138,381,000
December................... 137,792,000

2010:
January (3)................ 138,333,000
February................... 138,641,000
March...................... 138,905 ,000
April........................ 139,455 ,000
okie
 
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Reply Thu 27 May, 2010 10:08 am
@MontereyJack,
MJ, I will believe Obamanomics is working when I see it myself, not when some pundit favoring Obama says so. When I see acquaintances get jobs, when I see the unemployment numbers drop to acceptable levels, and when I see the businesses I am familiar with turn around, I will believe it, not when some pundit you quote says so, MJ. Also, when the markets really turn around, and when houses begin to sell again, that will help convince me.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 27 May, 2010 11:00 am
Actually the "pundit" I quoted, okie, is a reporter for Business Week, not exactly an Obama bastion, where that article appeared, if you will notice the dateline. And the numbers support his point (as do ican's, which he posted above, which indicate something like 1.7 million jobs added in the last five months, and we all know jobs are a trailing indicator, not a leading indicator).

okie, your position seems to be that anyone who says anything Obama does is working is automatically not to be believed, no matter what the evidence shows, and that the only people who are to be believed are people who say nothing Obama does is working, no matter what the numbers show. In other words, you're a proponent of "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts."

And do I have to point out that the markets have turned around and houses are selling again? They have, and they are.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Thu 27 May, 2010 11:26 am
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Sharron Angle, Nevada Senate Candidate: 'I Am The Tea Party'
(MICHAEL R. BLOOD | Associated Press | 05/27/10)

PAHRUMP, Nev. " Sharron Angle wants to wipe out Social Security, shutter the Education Department and return to the days almost a century ago when the federal income tax was unconstitutional.

A tea party conservative testing the limits of anti-government sentiment, she's also the Republican on the rise in an unpredictable race to pick an opponent for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a top Democrat in Washington who's in trouble at home.

What's more, she is evidently the Republican whom Reid would like most to run against. Witness a costly television campaign financed by the majority leader's backers to erode the support of the shaky Republican front-runner, Sue Lowden.

"I am the tea party," said Angle, a 60-year-old former Nevada lawmaker.

With early voting under way for the June 8 primary, Angle has nearly erased Lowden's double-digit lead in recent polls, thanks in part to endorsements from the Tea Party Express and other conservative groups, including the anti-tax Club for Growth. Lowden, a former state senator, has stumbled after she suggested people might barter for health care using chickens and she faced financial questions about the use of a leased bus.

Club for Growth began airing an ad statewide Wednesday that calls Angle a fiscal conservative and common-sense fighter and argues that Lowden supports huge spending increases and that she backed Reid.

The three top Republicans in the 12-candidate field " Angle, Lowden, 58, and Danny Tarkanian, 48 " have in earlier surveys polled better than Reid, a four-term senator taking the heat for the state's 13.7 percent unemployment rate, soaring home foreclosures and bankruptcy rates.

Angle is among hundreds of candidates nationwide testing how far voters want to go in 2010 to remake the federal government.

"A tsunami of conservatism is coming in waves across our country," she says. "My message is what the people want."

The loosely organized tea party movement has galvanized conservatives with its push for limited government, spending cuts and free markets, but their candidates could face risks if voters see them as too far out of the mainstream, particularly in states like Nevada where independents play a crucial role in statewide races.

Kentucky GOP senatorial candidate Rand Paul, a tea party favorite, has been on the defensive since last week, when he expressed misgivings about the 1964 Civil Rights Act and suggested the federal government shouldn't have the power to force businesses to serve minorities.

In a tough year for incumbents, particularly Democrats, who control the White House and Congress, Reid and other lawmakers could benefit from Republican divisions.

Former Nevada GOP Chairman Chris Comfort fears the infighting could weaken the party's chances in November coast to coast. "There is a lot of fracturing occurring within the Republican Party," Comfort says.

Angle calls Social Security "a broken system without much to recommend it." She hasn't offered a detailed plan but says seniors now collecting benefits would not be cut off. Workers over time would be shifted to private retirement accounts, an idea that is similar to what former President George W. Bush proposed six years ago only to see it flop.

"I really don't trust big government," Angle told voters gathered at a private home, explaining her support for ending Social Security. "When big government gets in control, we know those great ideas turn out to be something that hits us right in the wallet."

Tinkering with Social Security has long been politically perilous, and none of Angle's leading GOP rivals agree it should be phased out. Social Security faces a $5.3 trillion shortfall over the next 75 years and it's projected to run out of money by 2037.

Angle's proposal "is completely out of step," says Robert Uithoven, campaign manager for Lowden. "In a state that has a huge number of retirees, it's not a proposal Nevadans ... would back."

Angle also says cutting taxes isn't sufficient. She wants to repeal the 16th Amendment, which created the federal income tax, a move that would make it impossible for the government to operate. Angle says the federal income tax " and the entire Internal Revenue Service code " could be replaced with a flat-tax-type system.

The government plans to collect about $935.8 billion in individual income taxes and about $156.7 billion in corporate income taxes, according to the Obama administration's estimates for the current budget year, which ends on Sept. 30. The two taxes together make up about half of the total revenues the government estimates it will take in.

Angle has a long record as an oppositional figure in Carson City. During four terms in the state Assembly, she was known for her consistent votes against tax increases, sometimes unconventional views and a folksy, Sarah Palin-esque style. She wanted female inmates to enter a drug rehabilitation program devised by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, an idea she still defends.

"Those folks in the federal government, at the United States level ... should be the least powerful in the nation rather than the most powerful because of the way our founders set up our government," she says.

She found a receptive audience in Pahrump, a ranching area-turned-exurb of 37,000 about 60 miles west of Las Vegas.

Brian Shoemake, 52, a Web designer, said Angle was the kind of conservative who could help remake the Republican Party, which he said has drifted from its roots.

"I have the tea party mentality," Shoemake said. He said he was leaning toward Angle in the primary because "I don't believe the other candidates are well-versed enough in the Constitution."

Republican Donna Geiser, 63, a goat rancher and retired telecommunications analyst, said she and her husband pay $1,000 a month for health insurance and fear Washington's health care overhaul will drive up those costs.

Their mortgage is paid off, so health care is their biggest bill each month and a strain on the household budget.

In supporting Angle, Geiser said she wants to "send a message to Washington that we are tired of the bureaucrats. They are not looking out for the little people."
plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 27 May, 2010 05:29 pm
A discussion of just how Christian the Tea totalitarians are:

The insurgent Tea Party and its Libertarian philosophy is a political phenomenon, not a religious one. Like the Democratic and Republican parties it seeks to challenge, it is a secular movement, not a Christian one. As with both major political parties, people who regard themselves as Christians may be involved in, or sympathetic to, the new Tea Party; but that doesn’t make it “Christian.” But like the philosophies and policies of the major political parties, the Tea Party can legitimately be examined on the basis of Christian principles -- and it should be.

Since the Tea Party is getting such national attention, our God’s Politics blog is going to begin a dialogue on this question: Just how Christian is the Tea Party Movement -- and the Libertarian political philosophy that lies behind it? Let me start the dialogue here. And please join in.

Libertarianism is a political philosophy that holds individual rights as its supreme value and considers government the major obstacle. It tends to be liberal on cultural and moral issues and conservative on fiscal, economic, and foreign policy. This “just leave me alone and don’t spend my money” option is growing quickly in American life, as we have seen in the Tea Party movement. Libertarianism has been an undercurrent in the Republican Party for some time, and has been in the news lately due to the primary election win of Rand Paul as the Republican candidate for a Senate seat in Kentucky. Paul has spoken like a true Libertarian, as evidenced by some of his comments since that election last week.

He cited the Civil Rights Act as an example of government interference with the rights of private business. Paul told an interviewer that he would have tried to change the provision in the 1964 Civil Rights Act that made it illegal for private businesses to discriminate on the basis of race. He answered a specific question about desegregating lunch counters by countering, “Does the owner of the restaurant own his restaurant? Or does the government own his restaurant?”

A few days later, he spoke about the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Referring to the Obama administration’s criticisms of BP, Paul said, “I think that sounds really un-American in his criticism of business.”

Is such a philosophy Christian? In several major aspects of biblical ethics, I would suggest that Libertarianism falls short.

1. The Libertarian enshrinement of individual choice is not the pre-eminent Christian virtue. Emphasizing individual rights at the expense of others violates the common good, a central Christian teaching and tradition. The Christian answer to the question “Are we our brother’s keeper?” is decidedly “Yes.” Jesus tells us that the greatest commandment is to love God and love our neighbor. Loving your neighbor is a better Christian response than telling your neighbor to leave you alone. Both compassion and social justice are fundamental Christian commitments, and while the Christian community is responsible for living out both, government is also held accountable to the requirements of justice and mercy. Both Christians on the Right and the Left have raised questions about Libertarian abandonment of the most vulnerable -- whether that means unborn lives or the poor.

Just look at the biblical prophets in their condemnation of injustice to the poor, and how they frequently follow those statements by requiring the king (the government) to act justly (a requirement that applied both to the kings of Israel and to foreign potentates). Jeremiah, speaking of King Josiah, said, “He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well" (Jeremiah 22:16). Amos instructs the courts (the government) to “Hate evil, love good; maintain justice in the courts” (Amos 5:15). The prophets hold kings, rulers, judges, and employers accountable to the demands of justice and mercy.

2. An anti-government ideology just isn’t biblical. In Romans 13, the apostle Paul (not the Kentucky Senate candidate) describes the role and vocation of government; in addition to the church, government also plays a role in God’s plan and purposes. Preserving the social order, punishing evil and rewarding good, and protecting the common good are all prescribed; we are even instructed to pay taxes for those purposes! Sorry, Tea Party. Of course, debating the size and role of government is always a fair and good discussion, and most of us would prefer smart and effective to “big” or “small” government.

Revelation 13 depicts the state as a totalitarian beast -- a metaphor for Rome, which was persecuting the Christians. This passage serves as a clear warning about the abuse of governmental power. But a power-hungry government is clearly an aberration and violation of the proper role of government in protecting its citizens and upholding the demands of fairness and justice. To disparage government per se -- to see government as the central problem in society -- is simply not a biblical position.

3. The Libertarians’ supreme confidence in the market is not consistent with a biblical view of human nature and sin. The exclusive focus on government as the central problem ignores the problems of other social sectors, and in particular, the market. When government regulation is the enemy, the market is set free to pursue its own self-interest without regard for public safety, the common good, and the protection of the environment -- which Christians regard as God’s creation. Libertarians seem to believe in the myth of the sinless market and that the self-interest of business owners or corporations will serve the interests of society; and if they don’t, it’s not government’s role to correct it.

But such theorizing ignores the practical issues that the public sector has to solve. Should big oil companies like BP simply be allowed to spew oil into the ocean? And is regulating them really un-American? Do we really want nobody to inspect our meat, make sure our kids’ toys are safe, or police the polluters to keep our air clean? Do we really want owners of restaurants and hotels to be able to decide whom they will or won’t serve, or should liquor store owners also be able to sell alcohol to our kids? Given the reality of sin in all human institutions, doesn’t a political process that provides both accountability and checks and balances make both theological and practical sense? C.S. Lewis once said that we need democracy not because people are essentially good, but because they often are not. Democratic accountability is essential to preventing the market from becoming a beast of corporate totalitarianism " just as it is essential for the government. And God’s priorities should determine ours, not the priorities of the Chamber of Commerce.

4. The Libertarian preference for the strong over the weak is decidedly un-Christian. “Leave me alone to make my own choices and spend my own money” is a political philosophy that puts those who need help at a real disadvantage. And those who need help are central to any Christian evaluation of political philosophy. “As you have done to the least of these,” says Jesus, “You have done to me.” And “Blessed are those who are just left alone” has still not made the list of Beatitudes. To anticipate the Libertarian response, let me just say that private charity is simply not enough to satisfy the demands of either fairness or justice, let alone compassion. When the system is designed to protect the privileges of the already strong and make the weak even more defenseless and vulnerable, something is wrong with the system.

5. Finally, I am just going to say it. There is something wrong with a political movement like the Tea Party which is almost all white. Does that mean every member of the Tea Party is racist? Likely not. But is an undercurrent of white resentment part of the Tea Party ethos, and would there even be a Tea Party if the president of the United States weren’t the first black man to occupy that office? It’s time we had some honest answers to that question. And as far as I can tell, Libertarianism has never been much of a multi-cultural movement. Need I say that racism -- overt, implied, or even subtle -- is not a Christian virtue.

So that should get us started. Let’s have the dialogue about how Christian the Tea Party Movement and its Libertarian philosophy really are. Jump in!
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Reply Thu 27 May, 2010 05:31 pm
@ican711nm,
Everybody sing about dem golden slippers!
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Reply Thu 27 May, 2010 05:32 pm
@okie,
Of course, you never will because you still see Hitler as a leftist although he only allowed the word Socialist to remain in the name of the Party that he headed for the sake of convenience.
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Reply Thu 27 May, 2010 05:33 pm
@wandeljw,
That's what bothers me most about the extreme right: they favor illiteracy.
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Reply Thu 27 May, 2010 08:40 pm
Scary stuff: http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

What amazes me is how easily these folks lie.
 

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