However, we should not blind ourselves to the fact that entitlement scocial programs, like Social Security and Medicare, agricultural supports, etc., are the real source of our National Debt burden.
"But ambitious encroachments of the federal government on the authority of the State governments would not excite the opposition of a single State, or of a few States only. They would be signals of general alarm. Every government would espouse the common cause. A correspondence would be opened. Plans of resistance would be concerted. One spirit would animate and conduct the whole"
"I can say "sore losers" when it comes to elections held and won as set out in the constituiton."
"Let me ask you JM...
Did Obama become President based on the Constitution?"
Was in contrast to my finding that the Tea Party movement had, not only legitimate concerns, but that their protests fulfilled a founding father's prophecy and confidence in the people to express deeply held views.
If therefore, as has been elsewhere remarked, the people should in future become more partial to the foederal than to the State governments, the change can only result, from such manifest and irresistible proofs of a better administration, as will overcome all their antecedent propensities. And in that case, the people ought not surely to be precluded from giving most of their confidence where they may discover it to be most due:
The argument under the present head may be put into a very concise form, which appears altogether conclusive. Either the mode in which the Foederal Government is to be constructed will render it sufficiently dependant on the people, or it will not. On the first supposition, it will be restrained by that dependence from forming schemes obnoxious to their constituents. On the other supposition it will not possess the confidence of the people, and its schemes of usurpation will be easily defeated by the State Governments; who will be supported by the people.
SS and Medicare have future promises but that isn't debt.
In hind-sight, Afghanistan was almost certainly more culpable than Iraq
Asherman wrote:In hind-sight, Afghanistan was almost certainly more culpable than Iraq
Only for those who were willfully blind.
Prados above seems to disagree that Social Security and Medicare program obligations are a problem, Johnboy. Entitlement portions of the Federal budget make it difficult for any meaningful cuts in government spending without undermining its ability to perform the essential functions we've granted it in the Constitution.
We pay an army of bureaucrats to monitor and regulate the systems to keep fraud and corruption to a minimum, and those costs are born by the taxpayers. Do we taxpayers get good return on our employing that army of self-styled expert regulators, or do they increase the costs and degrade the service by endless red-tape?
What do I think needs doing? I would first of all attack the rampant and pervasive fraud in programs like Medicare. There is probably alot in Social Security and Medicaid as well.
And those reasonable ideas would probably be demagogued by the media so that very little could be accomplished, which is a large part of the reason we are in the mess we are in today.
Quote:What do I think needs doing? I would first of all attack the rampant and pervasive fraud in programs like Medicare. There is probably alot in Social Security and Medicaid as well.
Is this the result of tens of millions of illegal aliens?
You might want to check the cost of fraud in Medicare vs the fraud in private insurance. Care to bet which is larger?
Quote:And those reasonable ideas would probably be demagogued by the media so that very little could be accomplished, which is a large part of the reason we are in the mess we are in today.
Let's start here okie. We will freeze your SS payments for the rest of your life. No increase for inflation. Will you accept that?
Some could be, but I think most of the fraud is through fraudulant billings by doctors, hospitals, and other providers in the system. Cleaning the mess up and finding out exactly where all the fraud is would take a concerted effort to do it, which we have not yet done.
I am making no bets, but I think it should be obvious the government should clean its own house up before attacking private businesses, don't you?
Tenth Amendment Town Hall
"Exploring Solutions to Restoring Texas' Constitutional Rights"
8:30am to 1:30pm
2000 East Spring Creek Parkway
Plano, Texas 75074
You are invited to a special event hosted by the Texas Conservative Coalition (TCC), the conservative caucus of the Texas Legislature.
Trillion-dollar bailouts, record deficits, a proposed government takeover of health care, job-killing environmental regulations, and looming tax increases. The excessive power wielded by the federal government over states and individuals must stop. The Tenth Amendment Town Hall hosted by TCC will serve as a forum to explore solutions to restore Texas' constitutional rights, and to limit the growing power and influence of the federal government.
The event will feature a keynote address by Judge Andrew Napolitano (author and Fox News Contributor), as well as remarks by nationally-prominent constitutional scholars and conservative state legislators. Governor Rick Perry and Attorney General Greg Abbott will also participate in this event.
The Town Hall will also feature panel discussions, including:
- State Actions to Restore the Tenth Amendment
- Requiring Congress to Balance the Budget
- Nullification: What it means, and is it an option for states?
Austin Tea Party Patriots
Common Sense Texans
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh, a centrist Democrat who represents a Republican-leaning state, said he won't seek a third term in November, ..."To put it in the words I think most people can understand: I love working for the people of Indiana, I love helping our citizens make the most of their lives, but I do not love Congress,'' Mr. Bayh said in Indianapolis.