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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
parados
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2010 08:23 pm
@ican711nm,
Perhaps it was the rather large type you used in this post ican
http://able2know.org/topic/113196-924#post-3890896

ican711nm wrote:


CLINTON INCREASED BOTH SPENDING AND TAXES.
Quote:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2008/pdf/hist.pdf
Year…….$Outlays
1992..1,381,649,000 [BUSH 41 1989-1993]
1993..1,409,522,000 [CLINTON 1993-2001]


It certainly looks like you are including 2001 in Clinton's spending.
okie
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2010 08:36 pm
A picture is worth a thousand words, and this picture should be ample proof of Obama's presidency is a total disaster. Not only that, but so is the Democratic Congress a total disaster.
http://blog.heritage.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/wapoobamabudget1.jpg
parados
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2010 08:55 pm
@okie,
Why are you using a picture that is out of date okie.

Do you know what the actual 2009 deficit was?

Hint - it was less than projected by the WH or the CBO in your table.


Another hint. It was about what the CBO projected in early January of 2009 when Bush was still President and based on what Bush signed into law.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9958/01-08-Outlook_Testimony.pdf
Quote:
CBO currently projects that the deficit this year will total
$1.2 trillion, or 8.3 percent of GDP.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2010 09:30 pm
Obama has, clearly, Marxists tendencies. He intends to turn the country over to "community organizers." These are dire times.
The Teaparty will be meeting in Tennessee next week. Certainly, I would think, some of the folks here will be attending this convention at such a critical time.
Who will be attending and can report?
okie
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2010 10:47 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

Why are you using a picture that is out of date okie.

Do you know what the actual 2009 deficit was?

I think about 1.4 trillion, not remarkably different, Parados, and the projected 2010 deficit will be roughly in the same ballpark, nobody knows for sure what it will be at this point.
okie
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jan, 2010 10:51 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

Obama has, clearly, Marxists tendencies.[ He intends to turn the country over to "community organizers." These are dire times.

Glad to see that you are beginning to see the light, rjb Laughing In fact, that is what ACORN is, they are a nationwide group of community organizers, that will corrupt every local election that they can get by with pulling off, and you better believe it. That is who Obama is, rjb, a community organizer, that is what he does best, that is the foundation that every Marxist wants to lay as part of his groundwork.
Quote:

The Teaparty will be meeting in Tennessee next week. Certainly, I would think, some of the folks here will be attending this convention at such a critical time.
Who will be attending and can report?

Not me. How come you are lobbying for tea party attendees? Why not go yourself if you are so interested? Frankly I don't have time, I need to work, as do most average Americans. After all, somebody has to work to keep the country afloat, while Obama spends all the money.
okie
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 08:14 am
@okie,
More info. on Obamanomics:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/31/obama-offers-budget-deficits-far-number-crunchers/

"The White House projects the current fiscal year will end with a record $1.6 trillion deficit, congressional sources confirmed to Fox News. The president's budget for fiscal year 2011, which begins Oct. 1, is projected to have a nearly $1.3 trillion deficit. It would drop to just over half that -- $700 billion in fiscal year 2013 -- before jumping back up to $1 trillion in 2020, the furthest out that budgeters will predict."

Below, a picture of brilliance as he explains the budget:
 http://www.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/Politics/Obama%20State%20of%20the%20Union_monster_397x224.jpg
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 08:26 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

parados wrote:

Why are you using a picture that is out of date okie.

Do you know what the actual 2009 deficit was?

I think about 1.4 trillion, not remarkably different, Parados, and the projected 2010 deficit will be roughly in the same ballpark, nobody knows for sure what it will be at this point.

Which is close to what was predicted when Bush was in office based on what Bush had signed into law. It is ridiculous to blame Obama alone or even more than 20% for the 2009 deficit.
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 08:27 am
@okie,
It's too bad that a "community organizer" can make a bunch of conservatives look like idiots.
okie
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 09:54 am
@parados,
Obama is not the brightest bulb in the house, thats for sure.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 10:23 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

realjohnboy wrote:

Obama has, clearly, Marxists tendencies.[ He intends to turn the country over to "community organizers." These are dire times.

Glad to see that you are beginning to see the light, rjb Laughing In fact, that is what ACORN is, they are a nationwide group of community organizers, that will corrupt every local election that they can get by with pulling off, and you better believe it. That is who Obama is, rjb, a community organizer, that is what he does best, that is the foundation that every Marxist wants to lay as part of his groundwork.
Quote:

The Teaparty will be meeting in Tennessee next week. Certainly, I would think, some of the folks here will be attending this convention at such a critical time.
Who will be attending and can report?

Not me. How come you are lobbying for tea party attendees? Why not go yourself if you are so interested? Frankly I don't have time, I need to work, as do most average Americans. After all, somebody has to work to keep the country afloat, while Obama spends all the money.


Amazing that you didn't recognize the fact that RJB was having a poke at you, Okie.

Cycloptichorn
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 10:28 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Amazing that you didn't recognize the fact that RJB was having a poke at you, Okie.

Cycloptichorn


You really consider such to be amazing?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 10:29 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Amazing that you didn't recognize the fact that RJB was having a poke at you, Okie.

Cycloptichorn


You really consider such to be amazing?


I guess not, but it was so obvious.

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 11:20 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

parados wrote:

Why are you using a picture that is out of date okie.

Do you know what the actual 2009 deficit was?

I think about 1.4 trillion, not remarkably different, Parados, and the projected 2010 deficit will be roughly in the same ballpark, nobody knows for sure what it will be at this point.


350 billion dollars isn't a significant difference? That's 1/4 less!

I'm still waiting for an explanation from you, as to how you would balance the budget, cut taxes, and pay down the debt all at once. Specifically. What programs would you cut and in what amounts? What tax rates would you cut and in what amounts?

Cycloptichorn
parados
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 11:23 am
@Cycloptichorn,
I think I am going to recommend we cut the FCC first before anything else, Cyclo.

Which Conservative will ever agree with me? Rush? Hannity? okie?
mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 01:46 pm
@parados,
I will.
I would support abolishing the FCC.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 01:49 pm
@parados,
CLINTON INCREASED BOTH SPENDING AND TAXES.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2008/pdf/hist.pdf
Year…….$Outlays
1992..1,381,649,000 [BUSH 41 1989-1993]

1993..1,409,522,000 [CLINTON 1993-2001]
1994..1,461,907,000
1995..1,515,894,000
1996..1,560,608,000
1997..1,601,307,000
1998..1,652,685,000
1999..1,702,035,000
2000..1,789,216,000


2001..1,863,190,000 [BUSH 43 2001-2009]
Quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2051527/posts
1991-1992: minimum = 15%; maximum = 31%[BUSH 41 1989-1993]

1993-2000: minimum = 15%; maximum = 39.6% [CLINTON 1993-2001]

2001-2001: minimum = 15%; maximum = 39.1% [BUSH 43 2001-2009]
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 01:49 pm
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

I will.
I would support abolishing the FCC.


Even though that would allow all sorts of stuff to be broadcast on TV, which you may or may not approve of? Approve of children seeing?

Cycloptichorn
mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 01:53 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Thats why TV's have a thing called the "on-off" switch.
OR, I can change the channel.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2010 01:55 pm
IT IS OBUMA’S $3.8 TRILLION BUDGET FOR FISCAL 2011
………………………………………………………………………………………..
IT WAS BUSHY’S $0.4 TRILLION DEFICIT FOR FISCAL 2008
IT WAS OBUMA’S $1.4 TRILLION DEFICIT FOR FISCAL 2009
IT WILL BE OBUMA’S $1.6 TRILLION DEFICIT FOR FISCAL 2010
IT WILL BE OBUMA’S $0.7 TRILLION DEFICIT FOR FISCAL 2013 ("according to congressional aids")
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