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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 02:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
From the Cato Institute (generally true from my POV):
Quote:
Policy Analysis
Downsizing the Federal Government

by Chris Edwards

Chris Edwards is director of fiscal policy studies at the Cato Institute.

Executive Summary

The federal government is headed toward a financial crisis as a result of chronic overspending, large deficits, and huge future cost increases in Social Security and Medicare. Social Security and Medicare would be big fiscal challenges even if the rest of the government were lean and efficient, but the budget is littered with wasteful and unnecessary programs.

In recent years, mismanagement scandals have occurred in many federal agencies, including the Army Corps of Engineers, the Bureau of Indian Affairs, the Department of Energy, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Even the National Zoo in Washington has recently been shaken by scandal. The $2.3 trillion federal government has simply become too big for Congress to oversee.

The good news is that Americans do not need such a big government. Most federal programs are unconstitutional, unnecessary, actively damaging, or properly the responsibility of state governments or the private sector. This study analyzes programs that could be cut to create annual budget savings of $300 billion. If these cuts were phased in over five years, the budget would be balanced by fiscal year 2009 with all of President Bush's tax cuts in place.

Some reform ideas should be applied throughout the government. Business subsidies should be terminated, and commercial activities should be privatized. Also, federal grants to the states should be scaled back. Currently, a complex array of 716 grant programs disgorges more than $400 billion annually to state and local governments, which become strangled in federal regulations. That form of "trickle-down" economics is very inefficient.

Such reforms were on the agenda in the Reagan administration and in the Republican Congress of the mid-1990s. But the need for spending cuts is even more acute today because of the large fiscal imbalances that loom from projected growth in entitlement costs. Spending cuts would not just balance the budget; they would also increase individual freedom and expand the economy. All federal spending displaces private spending, but many federal programs actively damage the economy, cause social ills, despoil the environment, or restrict liberty as well.

Given the government's record of mismanaged and damaging programs reviewed in this report, policymakers should be far more skeptical about the government's ability to solve problems with higher spending.
Full Text of Policy Analysis No. 515 (PDF, 68 pgs, 347 Kb)
ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 03:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Cicerone imposter: "From the Cato Institute (generally true from my POV [Point Of View]):"

THIS IS ALSO TRUE FROM MY POINT OF VIEW.
Quote:
The federal government is headed toward a financial crisis as a result of chronic overspending, large deficits, and huge future cost increases in Social Security and Medicare. Social Security and Medicare would be big fiscal challenges even if the rest of the government were lean and efficient, but the budget is littered with wasteful and unnecessary programs.
...
Given the government's record of mismanaged and damaging programs reviewed in this report, policymakers should be far more skeptical about the government's ability to solve problems with higher spending.
Full Text of Policy Analysis No. 515 (PDF, 68 pgs, 347 Kb)
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 03:21 pm
Why wouldn't you face a financial crisis after 8 years of the shrub you ignorant fuckwit.
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 03:34 pm
@Wilso,
no, haven't you heard, it's all obama's fault

apparently he faked the cia documents that led george into that vast money pit of an iraq war

as soon as they prove obama's not a citizen, they're going to try him for crimes against the state

should make for some great television
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 03:43 pm
@djjd62,
It's really laughable; okie wants people to wait several years before historians rate GWBush's presidency, but he has the temerity to rate Obama's performance after just a few months in office.

I'm sure there are names for people like him, but the best ones escapes me just now.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 05:07 pm
Quote:
About 90 percent of the benefits from capital investment goes to workers in the form of higher wages due to increased productivity, according to a study by the National Center for Policy Analysis...
WALL STREET JOURNAL
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 05:12 pm
Total USA Employment Losses:
December 2007 to December 2008 = 2,709,000
December 2007 to January 2009 = 3,948,000
December 2008 to January 2009 = 1,239,000
December 2008 to December 2009 = 5,546,000
January 2009 to December 2009 = 4,307,000
January 2009 to January 2010 = ?

How is President Obama doing?

President Obama duplicated and amplified in 2009 what President Bush did in 2008.
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 05:18 pm
@ican711nm,
it's not necessarily obamas fault, it's the new economy, it's gonna shed jobs, manufacturing is gonna decrease, consumerism is gonna decrease, the baby boomers are totally ******* up everything, as they see there retirements dissolve in the wake of the economic crash, they're not gonna leave jobs unless they get shoved (in which case that job is gone), it's gonna take a while to sort out, and it's not gonna be pretty in the mean time
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 05:37 pm
@ican711nm,
You don't know how to interpret anything! You're a dummy from the conservatives school of stupid.

The loss of jobs in 2009 were the result of Bush's eight years presidency. What Obama was able to do was to reverse the job loss trend from over half a million per month down to the current level of under 100,000.

You may have gone to flying school, but your knowledge about economics is zilch.

We're still bleeding jobs, because it's a world economic recession. You do know what that is, I presume?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 06:12 pm
FROM "a dummy from the conservative's school of stupid."
(Bachelor's and Master's Degree in Electrical Engineering, Master's Degree in Business Administration, Flight Instructor, Airline Transpot Pilot, 10,600 total flight hours, Learjet Type Rated, 30 years in engineering research and development, 30 years in flight instruction and in air charter, and an old buzzard)
TRENDS IN TOTAL USA EMPLOYMENT
Quote:

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt
Total employment in the USA in:
December 2006 = 144,427,000
December 2007 = 146,047,000 (The high employment year for Bush that began with 136,933,000 in 2001)
December 2008 = 143,338,000
January 2009 = 142,099,000.

Quote:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf
October 2009 = 138,242,000
November 2009 = 138,381,000
December 2009 = 137,792,000

January 2010 = ?

Total Employment Losses:
December 2007 to December 2008 = 2,709,000
December 2007 to January 2009 = 3,948,000
December 2008 to January 2009 = 1,239,000
December 2008 to December 2009 = 5,546,000
January 2009 to December 2009 = 4,307,000
January 2009 to January 2010 = ?

How is President Obama doing?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 06:13 pm
@ican711nm,
You missed the most important sentence of my post, so I'll repeat it:
Quote:

You may have gone to flying school, but your knowledge about economics is zilch.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 07:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
FROM "a dummy from the conservative's school of stupid [who's] knowledge about economics is zilch."
(Bachelor's and Master's Degrees in Electrical Engineering, Master's Degree in Business Administration, Flight Instructor, Airline Transpot Pilot, 10,600 total flight hours, Learjet Type Rated, 30 years in engineering research and development, 30 years in flight instruction and in air charter, and an old buzzard)
TRENDS IN TOTAL USA EMPLOYMENT
Quote:

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt
Total employment in the USA in:
December 2006 = 144,427,000
December 2007 = 146,047,000 (The high employment year for Bush that began with 136,933,000 in 2001)
December 2008 = 143,338,000
January 2009 = 142,099,000.

Quote:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf
October 2009 = 138,242,000
November 2009 = 138,381,000
December 2009 = 137,792,000


January 2010 = ?

Total Employment Losses:
December 2007 to December 2008 = 2,709,000
December 2007 to January 2009 = 3,948,000
December 2008 to January 2009 = 1,239,000
December 2008 to December 2009 = 5,546,000
January 2009 to December 2009 = 4,307,000
January 2009 to January 2010 = ?

How is President Obama doing?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 07:32 pm
Hay! I just noticed! This page's number is 911!
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 07:36 pm
@ican711nm,
and so far your finger print is all over it (ie most posts), i guess you're the terrorist, or as your buddy GW might say, the terra -ist
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JamesMorrison
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jan, 2010 07:39 pm
Remember when I said the Dems would do absolutely anything (except appeal to voters' reason) to pass this monstrous 'Health Care' debacle? Let us ‘witness’ the Brown/Coakley MA senate race at:
http://bostonherald.com/business/healthcare/view.bg?articleid=1224249

Brown has campaigned on the fact that if elected he would be the 41st vote to kill Obamacare.

Some excerpts:
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“Friday, a spokesman for Secretary of the [Massachusetts] Commonwealth William Galvin, who is overseeing the election but did not respond to a call seeking comment, said certification of the Jan. 19 election by the Governor’s Council would take a while.
“Because it’s a federal election,” spokesman Brian McNiff said. “We’d have to wait 10 days for absentee and military ballots to come in.”
“Another source told the Herald that Galvin’s office has said the election won’t be certified until Feb. 20 - well after the president’s address.
“Since the U.S. Senate doesn’t meet again in formal session until Jan. 20, Bay State voters will have made their decision before a vote on health-care reform could be held. But Kirk and Galvin’s office said Friday a victorious Brown would be left in limbo.”


Well, of course, these things take time but the article correctly points out that:
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“In contrast, Rep. Niki Tsongas (D-Lowell) was sworn in at the U.S. House of Representatives on Oct. 18, 2007, just two days after winning a special election to replace Martin Meehan. In that case, Tsongas made it to Capitol Hill in time to override a presidential veto of the expansion of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program.”

So what’s the delay all about? Perhaps this:
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When long time aide and confidant of the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy… and interim Sen. Paul Kirk , who was handpicked by Gov. Deval Patrick, was asked whether he would vote for the Dems ‘Health care’ bill he said “Absolutely, “It would be my responsibility as United States senator, representing the people and understanding Senator Kennedy’s agenda. . . . I think you’re asking me a hypothetical question but I’d be pleased to vote for the bill.”


But, given the above information, how hypothetical is the question? The only real question is if the powers that be in MA will allow their own citizens’ voices to be heard regarding the vote on the Dems disaster. Simply, the MA Democrats will ‘listen to’ the voters as long as their Designated Senator votes for Reid’s Risibility. Otherwise, the voters’ interest will be dismissed out of hand by such fig leafs as absentee ballots (aren’t these sent out ahead of time and due in before or on the day of election? if not...ya know?). Additionally, why would a dead Senator’s agenda be considered justification for a vote one way or the other for, well...anything?

But why the kerfuffle any who? This seen with the safe Kennedy Senate seat kept democratically warm by one of his own in totally D Taxecussetts. Well, it would seem the Dems are a bit nervous, but why? After all, A Boston Globe survey released this weekend showed Ms. Coakley with a 15-point lead.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704500104574650692333660478.html

However,
Quote:
a survey by the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling found the race a dead heat, with Mr. Brown up 48% to 47%. The scary prospect for Democrats is that the race is even this close on their home ideological turf, and turnout is always difficult to predict in special elections.
which is
Quote:
...especially true in midwinter and with a voting public that is increasingly opposed to the Democratic agenda in Washington. The Public Policy Poll found that likely Bay State voters oppose the Democratic health plans by 47% to 41% and that they give President Obama only 44% job approval. This in a state he carried by 26 points only 14 months ago. It also found Republicans much more motivated to vote than Democrats.


Whow, this is a triple whammy for the Dems but this, again, shows the nature of the Democratic soul regarding exactly how low they will stoop to pass Obama’s testimonial to socialism called ‘Health reform’. Is this the soul Americans want running our big brother government?

Will Brown really win this? Perhaps, but what will be telling is the final vote count even if Brown loses. November is coming. Not to worry though, the article assures
Quote:
" ...especially now that the unions and national Democrats have become alarmed by the polls.


JM



MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 12:11 am
James Morrison, it would be nice if you actually knew something about US and MA election law before you started in on another extreme-right conspiracy theory rant. Absentee ballots for voters in the US have to be received back by the close of polls on election day. They are all counted in with the regular ballots after the polls close that night. However ballots sent to absentee voters living overseas (including ballots sent to members of the military overseas) have to be postmarked no later than election day. They then have ten days to actually get back to the city or town in MA where the voter is/was registered (this includes expats who are citizens but live abroad--they vote from their last registered address in the States). Those overeseas absentee ballots postmarked by election day which come in after the close of polls are held until ten days have elapsed and then are all opened and counted.

There are also, by federal law, what are called provisional ballots--ballots for people who are not on the voter rolls but think they should be are allowed to vote provisionally on election day. They then have ten days to make their case as to why they should have been allowed to vote. If they can, their ballot is opened and counted after ten days, if they can't it's discarded (the most usual provisional ballot seems to be from someone who moved out of town more than six months before--the length of time you can go back to an old polling place and vote--and neglected to reregister in the town they now live in, but feel they still should be allowed to vote).

So, no, not all absentee ballots have to be in by election day. However the number of overseas absentees and provisionals is usually very small (and you can tally how many overseas absentees were sent out and how many hadn't been returned by election day, but there's no way of telling how many of those will actually be returned--not all of them are), so knowing those numbers you can tell whether potentially there are enough to possibly change the outcome. In most cases the number will be so small and the difference in the vote between the candidates so large that even if all of them went for the losing candidate it wouldn't make a difference.

The election can't legally be certified as complete for those ten days and the couple days it takes to record the results and report them to the state and get the statewide totals verified (or the district or city totals, depending what the race was), but it's usually not in much doubt. Which is what as I remember happened with Nikki Tsongas. She and her late husband Paul are/were so beloved in their district that the election was never in doubt after the count on election night.

(This, by the way, is the law--it's not some gimmick dreamed up to impede our local Republicans, loopy as they tend to be. In November we had a city School Commitee election where the difference between the sixth highest vote-getter, who got in, and the seventh, was very close, and everything hung fire for ten days, till the dozen provisional ballots could be verified or not, and the few overseas could trickle in, and the election could be certified. The final difference was eighteen votes. between the two. There was a recount. All of the ballots on which there was any question were scrutinized by the Election Commissioneres--2 Dems, 2 Repubs, and observers for the candidates. The result of the recount was the seventh place candidate lost by nineteen.. That's the level of care, and the complexity of the process, designed to make it as fair as possible for everybody).

My feeling is that the Globe has it nailed--their results usually agree with state sentiment. I don't see any excitement at all for Brown,, or any swell of support for him, and he's proving to be quite the flip-flopper himself. I wouldn't start counting the chickens while the eggs are still in the nest, if I were you



JamesMorrison
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 08:34 am
Again, Crist in Florida will drop out of the senate race. He has lost every single straw poll in every county, including his own.

JM
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 10:37 am
@JamesMorrison,
Quote:

Brown has campaigned on the fact that if elected he would be the 41st vote to kill Obamacare.


Brown doesn't have the ability to kill Healthcare reform if elected, and I'm surprised that you don't realize this. The Dems can still pass it if he is elected.

Cycloptichorn
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 01:41 pm
AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE DEMOCRAT'S AND THE REPUBLICAN'S HEALTH CARE BILLS?

(1) Allocate to each person an annual $3,000 income tax credit to buy health care insurance from any private health care insurer in the country.

(2) For those individuals or families whose taxes are less than the sum of their tax credits, issue them vouchers for the difference.

(3) For many tax payers those vouchers will be as much as $3,000 per person.

(4) Cancel all other forms of government health care insurance.

There are less than 310 million people in the USA, so the total annual cost of this bill would be less than 310 million times $3,000 or less than $930 billion dollars. That's much less than either the current Senate bill or the current House bill PLUS the current annual cost of federal employee health insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid.

A family of four could purchase from a competitive free market excellent private health care insurance for four times $3,000 or $12,000 per year.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jan, 2010 02:33 pm
@ican711nm,
Deja viewed. Is this the 10th time?
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