@maporsche,
Quote:Set, how could it NOT reduce health care premiums (or at least keep them from rising faster (I'm using Obama's preferred accounting method here)).
In the first place, Fox has claimed that this would be the case, and then has claimed that she has provided the evidence that this is true. But the source she cited does not support her claim, and the source which Ican provided explicitly states that after tort reform in Texas, the cost to the consumer
did not go down.
How that can happen is pretty simple. Overwhelmingly, health service providers are corporate entities. If you reduce the cost to the corporate entity, they are just going to keep the difference as a dividend. But more than that, health insurance providers negotiate fee schedules with health service providers--they (the service providers) are already accepting the lowest nominal rates the insurers were able to negotiate with them for their large group coverage, so the insurers aren't saving a damned thing when malpractice insurance rates are lowered--there is no savings for them to pass along to the customer. I know this both because i have worked on the hospital side of insurance benefits/payment, and because, more recently, as a small business manager, i would routinely deal both with the service providers and the insurers.
So, in fact, there is no appreciable saving for the insurer--medical service delivery corporations make their money out of small group customers, who cannot negotiate for themselves, from self-pay customers, and from Medicaid and Medicare, which are so badly supervised that they rarely (if ever) review the accounts they are paying, let alone the rates. Additionally, health service providers routinely bill patients for the difference between the negotiated fee paid by the insurer, and the service providers highest advertised fee for the service. Their scam is easy to spot. They will send an invoice which basically says: "Your services cost $100 (that's just a throw-away number), and your insurance company has paid $65. The balance is $35." They are careful never to actually say that you owe them. If you don't pay them,
and you fail to notify your group insurer, they will quickly turn the account over to a collection service, so that when those people say you owe the $35, if the insurance company gets involved, the service provider can claim, truthfully, that
they never told you that you owed the money. It's appalling how many people just pay up. Since the last employer whose small business i managed had several family men working for him, it was a routine, at least once a month, that i would be calling the insurer, and then the business office of the service provider (don't even waste your time calling the clinic or the outpatient office, the therapist--whoever it is they are trying to milk you for). Invariably, the service provider says that someone (always unnamed) made a mistake, and the matter is dropped, completely.
But small employers who don't know this, self-insured people and self-pay people are just screwed. They pay the full price, even when the insurer from whom they have their small group or their self-insurance has a negotiated payment scheduled. None of these people (the service provider business offices or the insurers) employ white knights who are going to ride to your rescue--if you don't watch your own ass, the corporations will own it.
Forget common sense--it's always common, but it is rarely sensible. Health insurance providers are already paying the lowest nominal fee they could negotiate. They based their negotiating position on literally millions of pages of actuarial and billing information, and once they have arrived at a figure--they just don't give a rat's ass any longer. The amount they charge their large group customers is based on the actuarial tables, and their projected costs in the long term--and nobody is better at these calculations than insurance companies. Tort reform just doesn't do anything to save the large group insurers any money--and just as the medical service providers take it out of small group certificate holders, and self-insurers and self-pay patients, the insurers make a tidy sum off their small group customers and their self-insured customers.
As usual in the capitalist system, the only person who is reliably screwed is the individual citizen--the corporations, whether medical service providers or insurance companies, have had their asses well and truly covered since the day one.