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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 16 Sep, 2009 08:49 pm
@ican711nm,
CORRECTION

Obama's economic solutions are not working.

Federal total outlays--spending-- went from $1.7892 trillion in the year 2000 to $2.9019 trillion in 2008, while total employment rose from 136,891,000 in 2000 to 145,362,000 in 2008.

Federal total outlays went from $2.901.9 billion for the year 2008 to about $2.0 trillion for the period January to August 2009, while employment decreased from 143,338,000 in December 2008 to 139,649,000 in August 2009.

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt
EMPLOYMENT
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2008/pdf/hist.pdf
OUTLAYS
parados
 
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Reply Wed 16 Sep, 2009 09:23 pm
@ican711nm,
Your correction still needs to be corrected ican.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 16 Sep, 2009 10:02 pm
@parados,
Some people have no concept of economics, and what it might take to turn around job losses in the hundreds of thousands every month. The total ignorance of some people never ceases to surprise me.

They don't even know what precipitated this problem, and they complain about a problem they have no concept of understanding. They regurgitate numbers as if it means what they think it means, but are totally clueless.

ican wouldn't know where to begin his corrections, because he's totally lost.
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okie
 
  0  
Reply Wed 16 Sep, 2009 11:01 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

okie wrote:

Notice to all posters, I just placed Debra Law on ignore, thats number 3. For basically posting sewer garbage. Also, she doesn't matter any more, as she has refused to answer point blank if she sympatizes with or agrees with Marxism. I think it is safe to say that if you don't make an effort to disavow an idealogy that has been responsible for tens of millions of deaths, then something is definitely very very haywire there with that individual.


So, if someone won't specifically answer your 'stop beating your wife yet?' questions, you ignore them? Great way to go through life, that.

Cycloptichorn

Obviously your understanding of logic is severely lacking in this instance.

The question I asked Debra was not: "Have you stopped believing in Marxism, but rather do you believe in it? So my question was not parallel with "Have you stopped beating your wife," it was rather "Do you beat your wife?"

I asked her at least a couple of times, and I did not look up the exact quote, but the basic meaning of my question as I cite it here is correct.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 06:23 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

Notice to all posters, I just placed Debra Law on ignore, thats number 3. For basically posting sewer garbage. Also, she doesn't matter any more, as she has refused to answer point blank if she sympatizes with or agrees with Marxism. I think it is safe to say that if you don't make an effort to disavow an idealogy that has been responsible for tens of millions of deaths, then something is definitely very very haywire there with that individual.


3? I have 103 on my ignored list. Deb and CI made the list about the time it came out. Neither have ever contributed much beyond childish barbs and half baked attempts at trying to garner the praise of the like minded brethren.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 08:13 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

Notice to all posters, I just placed Debra Law on ignore, thats number 3. For basically posting sewer garbage. Also, she doesn't matter any more, as she has refused to answer point blank if she sympatizes with or agrees with Marxism. I think it is safe to say that if you don't make an effort to disavow an idealogy that has been responsible for tens of millions of deaths, then something is definitely very very haywire there with that individual.

Notice to all posters: I just put everyone who disagrees with me on ignore. After all, this is an agreement forum, not a discussion forum. Am i right?*


*Don't bother responding. If you disagree with me, I won't see it.
maporsche
 
  1  
Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 08:17 am
I've put almost everyone who post word games and translation/grammer help on ignore. And I add more of them every day.

The only other poster I've put on ignore is ican because he mainly post te same thing ove and over and over and over on several threads.

Both of these actions have made my experience on A2K very enjoyable.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 08:25 am
@maporsche,
yes, a great majority of my ignore lists are grammar, rap and crossword related.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 08:29 am
@joefromchicago,
Joe, you can't be more wrong. You are not on ignore for example. I place on ignore those posters that post repeated personal insults and attacks on character. It may even include virtually pornographic material, or language not fit for mature people. It has nothing to do with disagreement, it has to do with basic decency. We can disagree but still be decent.
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 08:55 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

Joe, you can't be more wrong. You are not on ignore for example. I place on ignore those posters that post repeated personal insults and attacks on character. It may even include virtually pornographic material, or language not fit for mature people. It has nothing to do with disagreement, it has to do with basic decency. We can disagree but still be decent.

That sort of behavior transcends partisan boundaries, but I'll venture to guess that you don't have too many conservatives in your own personal "gang of three." You say you don't like repeated personal insults and attacks on character, but you forgot to mention that you'll only ignore them when they come from someone with whom you disagree. I'm sure that you are far more magnanimous toward all of the conservatives on this forum who post repeated personal insults and attacks on character.
McGentrix
 
  1  
Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 09:04 am
@joefromchicago,
joefromchicago wrote:

okie wrote:

Joe, you can't be more wrong. You are not on ignore for example. I place on ignore those posters that post repeated personal insults and attacks on character. It may even include virtually pornographic material, or language not fit for mature people. It has nothing to do with disagreement, it has to do with basic decency. We can disagree but still be decent.

That sort of behavior transcends partisan boundaries, but I'll venture to guess that you don't have too many conservatives in your own personal "gang of three." You say you don't like repeated personal insults and attacks on character, but you forgot to mention that you'll only ignore them when they come from someone with whom you disagree. I'm sure that you are far more magnanimous toward all of the conservatives on this forum who post repeated personal insults and attacks on character.


I'll pull a Walter here and interject with my opinion. I have 3 users that could be considered from the "right" on ignore as I found their posts to be useless. Considering the number of people that post here that could be considered from the right, that is a much higher percentage than libbies I have on ignore.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 09:19 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

okie wrote:

Notice to all posters, I just placed Debra Law on ignore, thats number 3. For basically posting sewer garbage. Also, she doesn't matter any more, as she has refused to answer point blank if she sympatizes with or agrees with Marxism. I think it is safe to say that if you don't make an effort to disavow an idealogy that has been responsible for tens of millions of deaths, then something is definitely very very haywire there with that individual.


So, if someone won't specifically answer your 'stop beating your wife yet?' questions, you ignore them? Great way to go through life, that.

Cycloptichorn

Obviously your understanding of logic is severely lacking in this instance.

The question I asked Debra was not: "Have you stopped believing in Marxism, but rather do you believe in it? So my question was not parallel with "Have you stopped beating your wife," it was rather "Do you beat your wife?"

I asked her at least a couple of times, and I did not look up the exact quote, but the basic meaning of my question as I cite it here is correct.


I don't understand why that would lead you to put someone on ignore. I have told you - repeatedly - that I believe the best system will have both elements of Capitalism and Socialism within it.

Does that mean that I 'beat my wife,' rhetorically speaking, in your opinion?

You and I have always had a nice posting relationship, because despite our political and philosophical differences, I think you are mostly a nice guy. So don't be upset when I say this: I think you put Deb on ignore mostly b/c she provides excellent and incisive counter-arguments to many of your propositions.

Cycloptichorn
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 10:40 am
@maporsche,
Quote:
I've put almost everyone who post word games and translation/grammer help on ignore.


Perhaps you should rethink this. Smile
maporsche
 
  1  
Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 10:53 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
I've put almost everyone who post word games and translation/grammer help on ignore.


Perhaps you should rethink this. Smile


LOL - I was typing on my iphone on the train ride into work...give me a little break.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 10:57 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

joefromchicago wrote:

okie wrote:

Joe, you can't be more wrong. You are not on ignore for example. I place on ignore those posters that post repeated personal insults and attacks on character. It may even include virtually pornographic material, or language not fit for mature people. It has nothing to do with disagreement, it has to do with basic decency. We can disagree but still be decent.

That sort of behavior transcends partisan boundaries, but I'll venture to guess that you don't have too many conservatives in your own personal "gang of three." You say you don't like repeated personal insults and attacks on character, but you forgot to mention that you'll only ignore them when they come from someone with whom you disagree. I'm sure that you are far more magnanimous toward all of the conservatives on this forum who post repeated personal insults and attacks on character.


I'll pull a Walter here and interject with my opinion. I have 3 users that could be considered from the "right" on ignore as I found their posts to be useless. Considering the number of people that post here that could be considered from the right, that is a much higher percentage than libbies I have on ignore.


I agree. The short list of numbnuts I have on ignore include left and right and all are on ignore because of regular unacceptable offensive remarks intended to hurt other people. I'm pretty sure some or most of those are alter egos of people who choose that way to be offensive so that their known selves can be perceived as more socially acceptable. They are also a way to vote up their own posts while voting down others. My list is short but includes more lefties but a higher percentage of righties for the same reason you said.

Having the ability to not see repeated and regular remarks intended to hurt and offend people has improved my experience on A2K considerably.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 11:18 am
@maporsche,
Just a little innocent fun, Map.

DrewDad had a name for this but it escapes me now.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 11:21 am
@Foxfyre,
Quote:
Having the ability to not see repeated and regular remarks intended to hurt and offend people has improved my experience on A2K considerably.


Yes, and that's what's important, Foxy, that you should be happy and content as you march your ignorance forward without ever having to face any objective measure of truth.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 11:25 am
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:
The short list of numbnuts I have on ignore include left and right and all are on ignore because of regular unacceptable offensive remarks intended to hurt other people.

I agree: there's an incivility problem on A2K, and it's totally the fault of all those numbnuts who keep calling people names.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 11:27 am
@joefromchicago,
joefromchicago wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:
The short list of numbnuts I have on ignore include left and right and all are on ignore because of regular unacceptable offensive remarks intended to hurt other people.

I agree: there's an incivility problem on A2K, and it's totally the fault of all those numbnuts who keep calling people names.


Actually, it's entirely my fault. I personally have 7-10 different accounts which I use, in order to vote all my posts up and insult others without sullying my good name. Because that's the sort of thing I or anyone would consider important enough to do.

Cycloptichorn
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old europe
 
  3  
Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 11:40 am
I see that all of the above posters just logged in with their alter accounts and voted up their own posts....

No. Wait. You're all the same person, right?

Who are you?
 

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