AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

This includes blacks who feel that blacks are superior or deserve special treatment, right?

Well I was correct that you, as a self-determined far leftist, are no longer able to grasp the principle being explained to you.

But that's okay. You seem to have a lot of company there. I interpret your answer that you are the most generous of all people so long as you can be generous with other people's money.

Nobody should look to you to accept personal responsibility as you have relinquished that right and privilege to others. And you have a far too limited definition for the word 'slavery' including disrespecting honorable dictionary definitions for that word.

maporsche wrote:

This includes blacks who feel that blacks are superior or deserve special treatment, right?

That's not an example of people being racist towards their own race, however. Unless we are pushing the definition of 'racist' to mean any thoughts of inequality whatsoever, regardless of actions.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

maporsche wrote:

This includes blacks who feel that blacks are superior or deserve special treatment, right?

That's not an example of people being racist towards their own race, however. Unless we are pushing the definition of 'racist' to mean any thoughts of inequality whatsoever, regardless of actions.

Cycloptichorn

What of dark skinned blacks behavior towards lighter skinned blacks and vica versa? What of Japanese behavior towards Chinese, or Vietnamese vs. cambodians, or the various caste systems in India... seems like there is a lot of internal racism going on if you pay attention.

maporsche wrote:

This includes blacks who feel that blacks are superior or deserve special treatment, right?

That's not an example of people being racist towards their own race, however. Unless we are pushing the definition of 'racist' to mean any thoughts of inequality whatsoever, regardless of actions.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

maporsche wrote:

This includes blacks who feel that blacks are superior or deserve special treatment, right?

That's not an example of people being racist towards their own race, however. Unless we are pushing the definition of 'racist' to mean any thoughts of inequality whatsoever, regardless of actions.

Cycloptichorn

So, you're prepared to state that being a racist is defined solely by one's actions, not one's thoughts?

Foxfyre, you posted this several days ago.

Foxfyre wrote:

... My fear is that the GOP has not learned its lesson and, like Obama, is currently talking a good game that would not be implemented if they are restored to power.

That's why a third truly conservative party is looking better to me all the time.

What's your opinion about whether any of these three political parties is a "truly conservative party":

http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php
Constitution Party National Platform

http://www.lp.org/platform
National Platform of the Libertarian Party

http://www.conservativepartyusa.org/
Conservative Party of the United States of America

Cycloptichorn wrote:

First of all, I didn't say that they 'cannot' be racist, but that it's a farcical idea; that is to say, people generally are not racist towards their own groups, b/c it's a self-defeating concept.

Racist or racism is a belief that a race is superior or another race is inferior. It's not always a self-defeating concept.

maporsche wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

First of all, I didn't say that they 'cannot' be racist, but that it's a farcical idea; that is to say, people generally are not racist towards their own groups, b/c it's a self-defeating concept.

Racist or racism is a belief that a race is superior or another race is inferior. It's not always a self-defeating concept.

Correct. When black people, for instance, use victimization or past oppression of black people as justification to demand special favors/dispensation from others, that is a racist view. And it is self denigrating as they do not see themselves as equals or capable of achievement through their own initiatives. It is even more despicable when another race assigns such inferior status to black people.

Racism is racism no matter how it is gussied up or whatever adjectives are attached to it. And I try very hard not to use words in ways that cannot be backed up by common dictionary definitions. As you tend to reject dictionary definitions that you do not like, you probably don't recognize that.

Foxfyre wrote:

Racism is racism no matter how it is gussied up or whatever adjectives are attached to it. And I try very hard not to use words in ways that cannot be backed up by common dictionary definitions. As you tend to reject dictionary definitions that you do not like, you probably don't recognize that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_discrimination

AKA

Reverse Racism

What you call 'gussied up' others call 'accuracy.' And yeah, it's damaging to one's argument when you ignore it. I can understand your frustration.

Cycloptichorn

Law Dictionary: Reverse Discrimination
Top Home > Library > Law & Legal Issues > Law DictionaryA term referring to the practice of excluding a classification or race of people who have not been historically discriminated against, usually whites, from positions that are made available exclusively to persons or groups that have traditionally been the subject of discrimination, or who otherwise benefit from affirmative action programs. The term has been applied to the practice of reserving positions for minorities in school admissions programs, corporate promotions, and rehiring of blacks with less job seniority than whites. The contention that affirmative action violates the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, 42 U.S.C. §§2000d et seq., has been the cause of differing opinions by members of the Supreme Court. 438 U.S. 265.

Reverse discrimination is denial of equal protection of the laws and is viewed as discrimination on the basis of race by opponents of racial quota programs (a.k.a. reverse racism)