AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

The current duly elected US government, but that will soon change.

I think your continued use of 'father/mother/son' terminology is indicative of some past familial trauma on your part, which is now being reflected in your posting; however, it has no relation to either myself or the quality of my posting.

Cycloptichorn

I enjoy the lack of quality put forth in Cyclotroll's posts.

Obama Booed By Some Doctors At AMA Speech

Just wait until Obama raises taxes on the middle class to pay for his health care... the **** will be liberally applied to the fan.

No it won't, unless you are planning on leading an act of sedition. The next Presidential election isn't for 3 -1/2 years.

You should not be ignoring the House & Senate elections that will occur in 2010.

And if our current GOP in Congress doesn't totally blow it by going off the deep end on some of these issues, that 2010 election could be pivotal. Remember Bill Clinton was scaring even his own party and was getting little or no support in his rather extreme approach to several issues in the first year of his presidency. He was so bad that in 1994 he handed both houses of Congress to the Republicans for the first time in like forever. That mostly responsible, mostly conservative 'freshman class' of Republians dragged the President into a pretty successful presidency.

If we can stall long enough to make it to the 2010 election, we might be able to get enough sensible people into Congress again to make a successful presidency out of Barack Obama's first term. That would be the best of all worlds for everybody.

God, you live in fantasy land, past and present . . .

Does Obama really want to save money so that the Health Care legislation will not completely bankrupt the USA.? There are a few things that could help.

The first one would be to put a stop to nuisance suits for so called malpractice.
As the article below points out, the insurance paidby doctors as well as the additional and sometimes unnecessary tests they order because of the rapacious trail lawyers, who, after all, earn their living by getting 30 or 40% of any settlement, are the major factors in keeping health costs so high.

But that would mean that Obama would have to discipline the TRAIL LAWYERS who poured thousands into his campaign for office. No, Obama won't do that as he mentioned in his speech yesterday to the AMA.

Note:

WSJ Editorial - Obama’s Malpractice Gesture
By John Frisby • Jun 16th, 2009 • Category: Civil Liberty, Economics, Editorial, Ethics, Health Care, Politics, Presidency


June 16, 2009

President Obama mentioned the medical liability problem yesterday, and it says something about health-care orthodoxies that even this political gesture sent his usual allies into a fluster. We suppose this is progress " though there’s a reason cannier Democrats are smiling.

Of course Mr. Obama deserves credit for even referring to what he called the “real issue” of medical malpractice reform. The paragraph he appended to his stock speech on health care for the American Medical Association yesterday didn’t offer much detail " “I do think we need to explore a range of ideas,” he boldly declared " but trial lawyers and their stratospheric jury awards and settlements have led to major increases in the medical malpractice premiums, thus driving up the overall cost of U.S. health care.

The system today is worse than random " many lawsuits do not involve any negligence " and some physicians respond by leaving such high-risk fields as obstetrics, anesthesiology, neurosurgery and emergency medicine. Others practice defensive medicine, ordering unnecessary tests to immunize themselves if they do end up in court. Economists disagree on the precise burden of this legal fear, but some argue that it exceeds $100 billion a year.

Mr. Obama’s cri de coeur might have had more credibility had he not specifically ruled out the one policy to deter frivolous suits. “Don’t get too excited yet,” he warned the cheering AMA members. “Just hold onto your horses here, guys. . . . I want to be honest with you. I’m not advocating caps on malpractice awards.” In other words, the tort lottery will continue. California, of all places, has had great success in holding down liability costs for doctors and hospitals after a 1975 reform that limited pain and suffering damages " balanced against the public interest of fairly treating victims of genuine malpractice.

The trial bar and its Democratic allies say that the threat of lawsuits promotes better care and assures accountability. But they’ve fought even modest changes that would offer liability protection if doctors adhere to evidence-based guidelines. Mr. Obama showed again with his AMA speech that he’s willing to nod at the concerns of his political opponents and take media credit for brave truth-telling, only to dump his conciliation if it offends liberal interest groups.

Mr. Obama’s aides have openly told the press that he views medical liability as a “credibility builder” " that is, a token policy to keep the health-care industry at the bargaining table. Given that the only “bargain” that seems likely to emerge is another major step toward total government control of the health markets, the President seems to be counting on credulity.

Even Joe from Chicago sent $12.50 to Obama's campaign( that was all he could afford). < When he had a junk auto, he drove after Ambulances. Now, he has to walk or try to run. Poor Joe!!

Now, it was not Dick Cheney or Sean Hannity who made the prediction below. IT WAS THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE.

Foxfyre refers to the election of 1994 as a watershed. She points out that 2010 has the potential to be the same kind of revolution as 1994. Since the average voter does not usually read editorial pages but is uniquely sensitive to Unemployment in his family or of his friends and relatives--they will blame Obama and the Democrats AFTER 22 MONTHS IN OFFICE IN NOV. 2010.

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Tue 16 Jun 2009

ReutersU.S. unemployment likely to peak above 10 percent


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. economy will likely start growing again in the second half of this year but unemployment will likely keep rising through 2010 to peak over 10 percent, the Congressional Budget Office said on Thursday.

"The growth in output later this year and next year is likely to be sufficiently weak that the unemployment rate will probably continue to rise into the second half of next year and peak above 10 percent," CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf said in prepared testimony to the U.S. House Budget Committee.

It will likely take several years for the unemployment rate to fall back to levels seen before the recession hit, in the neighborhood of 5 percent, he said in the prepared remarks.

H2O and Yankee. Remember Cyclops is from Berkeley. They do not allow any magazine, newspaper or Internet material in that town that is not extreme left.

Thanks for answering my question.

From the liberal-progressive point of view, does equality of opportunity also require equal results? For example, is it ok for Joe to lawfully earn a billion dollars worth of property in 50 years, while John lawfully earns 100-thousand dollars worth of property in 50 years?

Does "equal treatment under the law for all" mean the same rules for everyone? For example, is it ok for each of the dollars in the 100-million dollars Joe earned last year to be taxed at the same rate as each of the dollars in the 10-thousand dollars John earned last year?

What do you think are "sustainable strategies for moving forward?"

What is "the reality of the US?"

No, equality of opportunity does not require equal results; but some measure of sanity should be applied to judging the value of work. That is to say, there are reasonable extremes that should be allowable (minimum wage, for example).



Equal treatment under the law does not mean that everyone pays the same tax rate, no. But the same tax laws do apply to everyone; that is to say, I follow the same tax code as a rich person does, even though we fall in different brackets.



Policies both foreign and domestic which examine the overall impact of our actions as well as the long-term costs and effects. Strategies which revolve around self-sufficiency as a nation in the sectors of manufacturing and energy production (in perpetuity, not based on limited fossil fuel resources), foreign policies which focus on lifting countries up through education and outreach instead of demoniaation and throwing money at problems.



That we are inherently no better than any other nation, and that we must constantly take actions which are above those we 'have to' in order to maintain the pretense that we are in fact the nation some of you assume we are. We will not maintain our position as top dog without a great deal of effort, and much of that effort is keeping our moral noses clean - even when we don't have to.

Cycloptichorn

I happen to think that we are inherently better than any other nation

Cyclotroll is a card carrying left wing extremists progressive socialist ass wipe.

Ican- It would appear that Cyclops( coming from the Communist Capital of the USA-Berkeley--Does not know that we cannot be equal and free. To be totally equal in a society which does not completely control the income of its citizens is an absurdty. After all, a highly trained Neurologist makes far more than a car hiker. If that Neurologist invests some of his hard earned capital in property or stocks or bonds, can the government tax his income? Yes, of course. Can the goverment take all the income above $100,000 a year that anyone earns?

Not Yet__But Obama is working on it.

Equality of Opportunity, says Cyclops!

Ah, yes. How do you get that equality of opportunity?

1. Tax people who make over $100,000 a year much more heavily than those who make less--so that there can be a redistribution of resources

We do that!

2. Pour a massive amount of funds into schools in the inner cities since those children do not seem to achieve well enough to complete College Education.

We do that and have been doing that since Johnson's Great Society began.

3. Make special provisions for minorities who apply to go to Graduate Schools, Medical Schools, Law Schools, Undergraduate Schools so that they can have EQUALITY OF OPPORTUNITY.

We do that!

Results? Minorties still have not be able to do well despite millions spent to help them.

ICAN--Cyclops does not know that we cannot be free while at the same time being equal. If you want TRUE equality, you must muzzle freedom. If you want true Freedom, you must be prepared for a society in which there are great differences in outcome.

God Bless You, H2O MAN--You are a believer in US Exceptionalism. There has never been another country which has fought Two Wars in Europe and has not taken terrority from that area.

Look at the previous wars in the world. Others have always taken. And in the cases where we have had annexations outside of the USA, we have freed the peoples.

The USA is exceptional, H2O MAN. Only those who truly hate the USA will not admit that!!!