AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

@Diest TKO,

****! wrong login!

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

I would like to state for the record that i am neither Diest TKO, nor H2Oman.

I hope you aren't implying we could be mistaken for each other.

That cuts deep, yo.
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Suck it up, Bubba . . . this is the rough and tumble of the real world . . . uhm . . . i mean the virtual world . . . uhm . . . never mind . . .

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Diest TKO:

This just in....

According to a Rasmussen poll, more voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats to handle the economy, by a margin of 45-39.
Scott Rasmussen notes that "this is the first time in over two years of polling that the GOP has held the advantage on this issue."

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cycloptichorn,
Where in the Constitution is the President of the United States granted the power to do any of these things:

(a) Lawfully negate the contracts made by these corporations with their corporate bond holders to pay their full equity in those bonds, BEFORE distributing corporate assets to any other corporate persons including employees?

(b) Lawfully disallow any corporate receivers of federal loans to pay back those loans before the federal government permits them to?

(c) Lawfully close selected car dealerhips?

(d) Lawfully take property from those who lawfully earn it, and give it to those who do not lawfully earn it?

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@Setanta,

why am I talking to myself?

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@Diest TKO,

Uh . . . cuz we're schizo?

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

I would like to state for the record that i am neither Diest TKO, nor H2Oman.

Don't worry, Setanta. It is common knowledge that this site would never allow an individual to post under multiple usernames. I believe there are programming codes that prevent this.

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@Wally Tea,

Good point, Wally . . . for example, The Girl would absolutely murderlize me if i logged in and posted under her name . . .

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@ehBeth,

I only can underline such. It's totally impossible. And I would be murdered, too.

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@Wally Tea,

I always thought that they had some sort of safe gaurd against that kind of thing.

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@Setanta,

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This does not constitute a valid answer to having pointed out that those who call for equal treatment for a "classes" of citizens cannot therefore in good conscience support a ban on homosexual marriages. To do so is to erect a set of unequal rights. Quoting the tenth amendment is a non sequitur to this issue.

Sure it does. You just do not agree with it.

I agree that there should be no discrimination on rights for any 2 people who want to live together. However, both the current administration and prior have left this issue to the States since the Feds are not budging on the Defense of Marriage. Obama made that clear as he side stepped the Don't Ask/Don't Tell military policy.

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@Yankee,

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This does not constitute a valid answer to having pointed out that those who call for equal treatment for a "classes" of citizens cannot therefore in good conscience support a ban on homosexual marriages. To do so is to erect a set of unequal rights. Quoting the tenth amendment is a non sequitur to this issue.

Sure it does. You just do not agree with it.

So let us be clear. The constitution lays the framework for the legal descrimination of homosexuals because of the 10th amendment?

What about Art IV, Sec 1 of the constitution?

Art IV, Sec 1 wrote:

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

How can this coexist with the "Defense of Marriage Act?"

Yankee wrote:

I agree that there should be no discrimination on rights for any 2 people who want to live together. However, both the current administration and prior have left this issue to the States since the Feds are not budging on the Defense of Marriage. Obama made that clear as he side stepped the Don't Ask/Don't Tell military policy.

This is an area, I'm wholly unimpressed with Obama on. I get the need to play things politically safe, but I think he should stand up for the LGBT community here. They are being asked to be patient on things from people who are enjoying those very things. I think Obama might have a change of heart (or rather policy).

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@Diest TKO,

Diest TKO wrote:

Careful Joe. Foxfyre already thinks that Cyclo and I are the same person. Perhaps Cyclo is you too. We are legion and all that jazz.

I am, in fact, several other persons on this site (try to guess which ones!). I'm just not Cycloptichorn. Not yet, anyway.

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@Diest TKO,

I agree about Obama's position on "don't ask, don't tell." He seems more interested in his political life than to defend the Constitution.

In the areas of equal rights under the law, and some issues on his stimulus plan, I wholly disagree with his positions, but I still rate him in the 60% approval range.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

He seems more interested in his political life than to defend the Constitution.

It's apparent that Obama will do most anything to circumvent the Constitution.

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@Yankee,

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Sure it does. You just do not agree with it.

No, it doesn't. The intent of the Defense of Marriage Act was to sidestep the full faith and credit provision in the constitution:

Article Four, Section One, reads, in its entirety:

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

If you intend to argue constitutional issues, it would help if you first made yourself familiar with the constitution. You can wake me up in the middle of the night and ask me what authority Congress has with regard to navies, and i'll tell you: "Article One, Section Eight--now leave me the f*ck alone."

You're not very good at this sort of thing.

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@Setanta,

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now leave me the f*ck alone."

As I said prior, you act as a child, you should be treated as a child.

Go back to your room and play with your doggie, OK?

I thought A2K was a place for adults, apparently not people like you can somehow participate.

Have anything else cleaver to say, little boy?

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

The proper responses to the question of "have you stopped beating your wife?" are either "I have never beaten my wife" or "I'm not married."

The proper response to Fox's question would be "I have no reason to assume that Mr. Obama thinks that way."

Beware of the Bill O'Reilly Rochade, however: "Those Libruls just can't answer a straight question 'yes' or 'no'"

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@joefromchicago,

joefromchicago wrote:

I am, in fact, several other persons on this site (try to guess which ones!).

Here are my three best guesses: Thomas, Slappy Doo Hoo, and/or Letty.

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