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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 10:34 am
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
Stop being coy. If there is anything honest in you, then you know that Christians have been some of the bloodiest people in history. I have a couple of history books here. If you have none, there is the internet and the library. Being a Christian does not make one a good person.

PLAINOLDME, STOP BEING COY AND ANSWER MY QUESTION
How many people were mass murdered by Muslims, Christians, Buddhists and Hindus in the last 10, 50, and 100 years?
parados
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 02:08 pm
@ican711nm,
Let me see if I have this right..

America is a Christian nation? Yes or no ican?
Abortion is murder? Yes or no ican?
Christian America murders 2 million per year with abortion.

You can argue that America is NOT Christian if you want ican or you can argue abortion isn't murder. Your choice.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 02:19 pm
On the question of mass murders, the Serbs, an Orthodox Christian nation, were responsible for the murder of more than 8,000 Bosniak men and boys at Srebrenica alone. For Buddhists, i advise checking the figures for Sri Lanka--both the Tamils and the Sinhalese are Buddists.

So, i suppose the clown Ican't is attempting to suggest that only Muslims have been responsible for mass murders.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 02:21 pm
@mysteryman,
Now, I am going to quote you . . . cutting and pasting . . . so that you can see what I mean about bullying.

Quote:
So now its only those on the right that want to amend the Constitution?


This is one of those statements that, on the surface, seem simultaneously meaningful and simplistic. It does not follow logically from my post. It is the equivalent of, "When did you stop beating your wife?"

There is no intelligent way to answer this question because it is not a question. The technique is false.

The intention is to raise the ire of the original poster with a specious statement.

Quote:
And who is talking about overthrowing the govt?


Apparently, you haven't read much about the Tea Totalitarians because this statement has appeared in several interviews with members of their rank and file.
Quote:
Unless, you mean winning elections is the same as "overthrowing" the government.


And here is another of those snide, bullying pseudo-questions that can not be answered with either sincerity or intelligence because of the intent of the 'questioner.' It was very clear that I was paraphrasing the words of the right-wing activists which are widely reported. It is not me who means.

I will not be used by you as a means of insulting the left. You can post all sorts of things that are negative about the left but you will not use me as a tool and I will not be pushed and bullied by someone who stoops so low as to use your techniques.

Pretending to misunderstand my words then to misquote me is not adult behavior.

What I wrote was very clear. What you wrote was playing games.

Put me on ignore.


plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 02:23 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:

PLAINOLDME, STOP BEING COY AND ANSWER MY QUESTION


BEcause you can not make an original statement, I will not answer your obvious question.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 02:24 pm
@plainoldme,
Besides, I see that parados and setanta already have.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 02:52 pm
@parados,
Abortion after the fetus is fully formed--about the 20th week--is murder.

America was established as a Constitutional Repuiblic that we now need to rescue and secure.

IN NOVEMBER,

IF we elect alleged-conservative majorities to both the House and Senate, and the Senate majority is less than two-thirds,

AND IF these majorities say they want to rescue and secure our Individual Liberty under the Law, our Constitutional Government, and our Capitalist Economy,

THEN can these and other of our objectives be achieved, if President Obama were not first held accountable for his past unlawful actions?

NO!


Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 02:54 pm
Trying to duck your bullshit mass murder claim, huh?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 02:57 pm
@Setanta,
Again!
How many people were mass murdered by Muslims, Christians, Buddhists and Hindus in the last 10, 50, and 100 years?
ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 02:58 pm
@plainoldme,
Again!
How many people were mass murdered by Muslims, Christians, Buddhists and Hindus in the last 10, 50, and 100 years?
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 02:58 pm
@ican711nm,
I see . . . you didn't read my last post. As i pointed out there, at Srebrenica alone, in a single incident, Christian Serbs killed more than 8000 Bosniak men and boys. How many people do you allege have been killed by Muslims, in incidents which were clearly mass murder, in the same period of time.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 02:59 pm
@ican711nm,
What a jackass. How many people do you allege were killed in incidents which clearly qualify as mass murder perpetrated by Muslims in the same time period?
talk72000
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 03:00 pm
@ican711nm,
You are Kermit the Frog of A2K - ribbit, ribbit, ribbit...
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 03:01 pm
@Setanta,
Again!
How many people were mass murdered by Muslims, Christians, Buddhists and Hindus in the last 10, 50, and 100 years?
ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 03:02 pm
@Setanta,
Again! and Again!
How many people were mass murdered by Muslims, Christians, Buddhists and Hindus in the last 10, 50, and 100 years?
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 03:02 pm
@ican711nm,
Again, how many people do you allege were killed by Muslims in incidents which clealy qualify as mass murder?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 03:03 pm
@ican711nm,
Again, and again, how many people do you allege were killed by Muslims in incidents which clealy qualify as mass murder?

You act as though you were psychotic.
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 26 Oct, 2010 07:41 pm
@ican711nm,
So are you saying the US is NOT a Christian nation ican?
ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2010 10:08 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
So are you saying the US is NOT a Christian nation ican?

No!

I said and am saying:
Abortion after the fetus is fully formed--about the 20th week--is murder.

America was established as a Constitutional Repuiblic that we now need to rescue and secure.

I don't know whether or not the US is a Christian Nation!
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 27 Oct, 2010 10:50 am
@plainoldme,
You can quote from me all you want, because I know what I said.

Now, here is your ENTIRE statement that I was responding to...

Quote:
What I don't understand is how these people who claim to love the Constitution
1.) Want to amend it until it is unrecognizable;
2.) Want to overthrow the government completely


So, please explain how anyone offering amendments to the Constitution will make it unrecognizable.
Also, since the state of Ohio floated the idea of a new Constitutional Convention, to amend the Constitution, wouldnt they also qualify as trying to make it unrecognizable?

http://www.lbo.state.oh.us/fiscal/fiscalnotes/127ga/HJR0008IN.htm

As for "overthrowing" the govt, I admitted that there were some on the fringe talking about it, but that nobody with any clout was talking about it.
And now, you have said the same thing when you say
Quote:
members of their rank and file.


The rank and file are not the party leaders, they are the foot soldiers that do the phone calls, the door to door stuff, the fundraising,etc.

Now, you claim that
Quote:
It was very clear that I was paraphrasing the words of the right-wing activists which are widely reported.


Sorry, that wasnt clear at all.
You made the post, did not attribute your quote to anyone or anything, did not say you were paraphrasing anyone, and presented the entire post as your own.

Again, you claim I misquoted you, when I used your own words.
This time, I posted your entire statement, that way everyone else can judge for themselves if I misquoted you or not.

But please feel free to cut and paste any of my posts, I am more then willing to respond to your claims.
 

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