what did assyria turn into?

The Assyrians sometimes lost to the Akkadians (Semites often identified as Babylonians) and sometimes roared back badder than ever. However, two Aryan peoples, the Farsi and the Meda (the Persians and the Medes) entered the Iranian Plateau at about the time of the rise of the Assyrians, and by the 6th Century BCE, they were rarin' to go, and burst over the Zagros Mountain range, and overran everything and everyone in their path. That put paid to any further Assyrian dreams of glory and conquest.

so persian wiped them out, and assyria wiped out israel correct? before persia got to assyria obviously..

By the way, at its height, the Assyrian Empire covered much of what is now Iraq, and the Anatolian plateau (the center of modern Turkey is the Anatolian plateau). The later, "Neo-Assyrian Empire" covered most of what is now Iraq, and most of what is now Syria, and southeastern portion of Anatolia. They were put out of business completely, however, by the Chaldeans, a Semitic people who overran the Akkadians of Babylon and defeated the Assyrians in the century before the Medes and the Persian settled everybody's hash.

No, not exactly. The Assyrians under Tiglath Pileser at the end of the 8th century BCE carried the Jews off to the Babylonian Captivity. But the Chaldeans drove them out, although they did not attempt to overrun the Assyrians. The Persians simply put everybody under tribute. The Assyrians got a deservedly bad reputation in the early days of their ascendancy for just slaughtering everyone in sight. Eventually it dawned on them that dead slaves aren't very productive. The Akkadians brought to them a cultural sophistication which they had lacked, and the Later or Neo-Assyrian Empire was a product of their having learned the lessons of their defeat by the Akkadians. People rarely ran around just wiping other people out, because there was no profit in it, and war ain't cheap. The key word is hegemony. You leave the old boys in place, with instruction to forward the tax money to you, and don't screw up because this army gets really nasty if they don't get paid on time. As for the Jews, they were allowed to go home by the Persians, and after Alexander overran the middle east, and then pretty promptly died, the region was divvied up by various Greek and Macedonian generals. One of these was Seleucus, who established the Seleucid Empire (rather a feeble empire, but the competition was thin, and it was based on the Greco-Macedonian conquests of Alexander). There were constant revolts with generals setting up on their own here and there, which is about how the Greeks had behaved before Alexander's pappy, Philip, had conquered them. The Big Dog of the Seleucids (don't remember the joker's name) is claimed to have prohibited the Jews from practicing their religion, so this one dude lead a revolt. His son, Judas Maccabeus lead a long but succesful revolt against the Seleucids, which the Jews usually claimed was a defeat of the Persian Empire, because it made them sound like really bad dudes. The joy of the Jews was short lived. In about a century's time, Pompey the Great showed up, overran the feeble remnants of the Seleucids, and marched into Jerusalem, and walked right into the Temple to show the Jews who was Boss.

The Jews could never really get down with it, though. Too bad for them, the Romans made all those old big dogs look like puppies.

alexanders general correct? i forget his name too.

the big dog i mean.

I thought the Akkadians were Semitic and the Babylonians weren't (or maybe the other way around)(It's been a long time)(--that the Akkadians were first and not of the same linguistic stock and fairly distinct culturally as well--don't flame me if I'm wrong,Set--it HAS been a long time)

Well, Judas Maccabeus lead his revolt more than 150 years after Alexander died, so Seleucus was Alexander's general, but the Jewish revolt came much, much later.

oop, no, confusing Sumer with Akkad. Never mind.

There is a problem with speaking of the Babylonians, which christians tend to aggravate by insisting that there was a distinct Babylonian culture. Babylon was founded by the Akkadians, but then they were overrun by the Assyrians, who briefly held Babylon. But the Akkadians came back and trounced them. The Assyrians languished for a few centuries, but came back strong, and overran Babylon again. Shortly thereafter, however, the Chaldeans overran the "Babylonian Empire," and i believe the Chaldeans were Semites, too. I think they called themselves the Kaldu, and that Chaldean is the Greek version. They were all put out of business by the Persians about a century after the Chaldeans put the Assyrians out of business.

The Akkadians and the Chaldeans owed their cultural heritage to the Sumerians, but i don't believe that the Sumerians were Semitic. They had a different name for themselves, and Sumerian is the modern version of the Greek version of the word the Akkadians used.

were akkadians from uruk and ur? or w/e..

forgive my ignorance..

Yeah king nebud whatever chanezzar sticks out to me, babylon does as well. just because of the bible to be honest.

wasnt babylon where(or not babylon, wait maybe) where the first written laws were found if im not mistaken?