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flaja
 
Reply Tue 19 Feb, 2008 04:23 pm
MSNBC is reporting today that Hillary may try to get some of Obama's elected delegates to support her. I didn't know this was possible, but the DNC has supposedly put out a memo that says that pledged delegates, i.e., delegates who have to vote for a certain candidate is a myth. People who were elected to support a particular candidate are not legally bound to support that candidate at the convention.

I wonder if the GOP works the same way. I've always thought that delegates have to support the candidate that they are pledged to on the 1st ballot. Maybe not.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 07:06 am
Re: I didn't know this:
flaja wrote:
MSNBC is reporting today that Hillary may try to get some of Obama's elected delegates to support her. I didn't know this was possible, but the DNC has supposedly put out a memo that says that pledged delegates, i.e., delegates who have to vote for a certain candidate is a myth. People who were elected to support a particular candidate are not legally bound to support that candidate at the convention.

I wonder if the GOP works the same way. I've always thought that delegates have to support the candidate that they are pledged to on the 1st ballot. Maybe not.


No they do not. So Clinton will do what the Clintons have always done, lie, cheat, steal, or do ANYTHING to steal this nomination from Obama.
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engineer
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 07:19 am
I read the article as more of a hypothetical... "what if the convention is deadlocked?" Here's a quote:

"I swear it is not happening now, but as we get closer to the convention, if it is a stalemate, everybody will be going after everybody's delegates," a senior Clinton official told me Monday afternoon. "All the rules will be going out the window."

I think Clinton would be shooting herself in the foot by doing stuff like this before the convention. That wouldn't help with those super delegates.
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flaja
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 09:11 am
Re: I didn't know this:
woiyo wrote:
flaja wrote:
MSNBC is reporting today that Hillary may try to get some of Obama's elected delegates to support her. I didn't know this was possible, but the DNC has supposedly put out a memo that says that pledged delegates, i.e., delegates who have to vote for a certain candidate is a myth. People who were elected to support a particular candidate are not legally bound to support that candidate at the convention.

I wonder if the GOP works the same way. I've always thought that delegates have to support the candidate that they are pledged to on the 1st ballot. Maybe not.


No they do not. So Clinton will do what the Clintons have always done, lie, cheat, steal, or do ANYTHING to steal this nomination from Obama.


I've always wanted to see a Democrat National Convention invoke the Marquiss of Queensbury's rules Innisfree style.

If I can paraphrase Sam Mussabini in Chariots of Fire when he saw Eric Liddell in person for the first time and a race official expressed concerns that the presence of a professional athletic trainer would disrupt the amateur character of the games: Convention? You must be joking. I've seen better organized riots.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 11:10 am
Re: I didn't know this:
flaja wrote:
woiyo wrote:
flaja wrote:
MSNBC is reporting today that Hillary may try to get some of Obama's elected delegates to support her. I didn't know this was possible, but the DNC has supposedly put out a memo that says that pledged delegates, i.e., delegates who have to vote for a certain candidate is a myth. People who were elected to support a particular candidate are not legally bound to support that candidate at the convention.

I wonder if the GOP works the same way. I've always thought that delegates have to support the candidate that they are pledged to on the 1st ballot. Maybe not.


No they do not. So Clinton will do what the Clintons have always done, lie, cheat, steal, or do ANYTHING to steal this nomination from Obama.


I've always wanted to see a Democrat National Convention invoke the Marquiss of Queensbury's rules Innisfree style.

If I can paraphrase Sam Mussabini in Chariots of Fire when he saw Eric Liddell in person for the first time and a race official expressed concerns that the presence of a professional athletic trainer would disrupt the amateur character of the games: Convention? You must be joking. I've seen better organized riots.


You want reality TV, catch the ACTION at the DNC Convention!
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 11:36 am
Re: I didn't know this:
flaja wrote:
MSNBC is reporting today that Hillary may try to get some of Obama's elected delegates to support her. I didn't know this was possible, but the DNC has supposedly put out a memo that says that pledged delegates, i.e., delegates who have to vote for a certain candidate is a myth. People who were elected to support a particular candidate are not legally bound to support that candidate at the convention.

I wonder if the GOP works the same way. I've always thought that delegates have to support the candidate that they are pledged to on the 1st ballot. Maybe not.[/quote


Why do you start a thread about something of which you don't have the facts? MSNBC repeated a story originally posted by Roger Simon of politico.com.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html


No one (except Roger Simon) knows who in the Clinton campaign proposed this and this story is already ancient history.
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flaja
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 12:00 pm
Re: I didn't know this:
Roxxxanne wrote:
flaja wrote:
MSNBC is reporting today that Hillary may try to get some of Obama's elected delegates to support her. I didn't know this was possible, but the DNC has supposedly put out a memo that says that pledged delegates, i.e., delegates who have to vote for a certain candidate is a myth. People who were elected to support a particular candidate are not legally bound to support that candidate at the convention.

I wonder if the GOP works the same way. I've always thought that delegates have to support the candidate that they are pledged to on the 1st ballot. Maybe not.[/quote


Why do you start a thread about something of which you don't have the facts? MSNBC repeated a story originally posted by Roger Simon of politico.com.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html


No one (except Roger Simon) knows who in the Clinton campaign proposed this and this story is already ancient history.[/quote]

I generally don't use the internet as a source of news. I wouldn't know this Simon character from the man in the moon. What's so special about him? You have a crush on him or something?
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 12:02 pm
If you don't know who Roger Simon is, you have no business participating in a political forum. You should be spending your time educating yourself rather than exposing your appalling ignorance.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 12:07 pm
Re: I didn't know this:
flaja wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
flaja wrote:
MSNBC is reporting today that Hillary may try to get some of Obama's elected delegates to support her. I didn't know this was possible, but the DNC has supposedly put out a memo that says that pledged delegates, i.e., delegates who have to vote for a certain candidate is a myth. People who were elected to support a particular candidate are not legally bound to support that candidate at the convention.

I wonder if the GOP works the same way. I've always thought that delegates have to support the candidate that they are pledged to on the 1st ballot. Maybe not.[/quote


Why do you start a thread about something of which you don't have the facts? MSNBC repeated a story originally posted by Roger Simon of politico.com.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html


No one (except Roger Simon) knows who in the Clinton campaign proposed this and this story is already ancient history.[/quote]

I generally don't use the internet as a source of news. I wouldn't know this Simon character from the man in the moon. What's so special about him? You have a crush on him or something?


What, are you living in 1995?

You have a computer - you are using it right now - get some news from it!

Cycloptichorn
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flaja
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 01:29 pm
Re: I didn't know this:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
flaja wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
flaja wrote:
MSNBC is reporting today that Hillary may try to get some of Obama's elected delegates to support her. I didn't know this was possible, but the DNC has supposedly put out a memo that says that pledged delegates, i.e., delegates who have to vote for a certain candidate is a myth. People who were elected to support a particular candidate are not legally bound to support that candidate at the convention.

I wonder if the GOP works the same way. I've always thought that delegates have to support the candidate that they are pledged to on the 1st ballot. Maybe not.[/quote


Why do you start a thread about something of which you don't have the facts? MSNBC repeated a story originally posted by Roger Simon of politico.com.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html


No one (except Roger Simon) knows who in the Clinton campaign proposed this and this story is already ancient history.[/quote]

I generally don't use the internet as a source of news. I wouldn't know this Simon character from the man in the moon. What's so special about him? You have a crush on him or something?


What, are you living in 1995?

You have a computer - you are using it right now - get some news from it!

Cycloptichorn


What has 1995 to do with anything?

When I want news, political-themed websites are not the 1st or even the 2nd or 3rd place I go to. I heard this bit about the pledged delegates to the Democrat convention only in passing. If I hadn't heard of it when I did and how I did, I wouldn't be discussing it now.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 01:46 pm
Cyclo, he gets his information form "hearing" it. Why should he actually get the info first hand when he can listen to BOR, Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham on the radio? The ignorance of the electorate these days is alarming.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 02:20 pm
Roxxxanne wrote:
Cyclo, he gets his information form "hearing" it. Why should he actually get the info first hand when he can listen to BOR, Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham on the radio? The ignorance of the electorate these days is alarming.


Your arrogance is quite annoying and disrespectful.

The concept of "committed delegates" has been misreported for years and many so called experts were unfamiliar.

Only the true GEEKS like you would "fake" knowing this before the article was written.

You are the same person who when I asked you directly WHY you say McCain has no chance, your response was "LOL".

I think you owe FLAJA an apology.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 02:55 pm
woiyo wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
Cyclo, he gets his information form "hearing" it. Why should he actually get the info first hand when he can listen to BOR, Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham on the radio? The ignorance of the electorate these days is alarming.


Your arrogance is quite annoying and disrespectful.

The concept of "committed delegates" has been misreported for years and many so called experts were unfamiliar.

Only the true GEEKS like you would "fake" knowing this before the article was written.

You are the same person who when I asked you directly WHY you say McCain has no chance, your response was "LOL".

I think you owe FLAJA an apology.


The Roger Simon story was widely reported,only an ignoramus would not have known the source and the details of this story. If the fact that I am light years more knowledgeable than you or the flajas of the world makes me a geek, than I am a geek.

I don't have to apologize for your or flaja's ignorance.
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flaja
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 03:05 pm
woiyo wrote:
I think you owe FLAJA an apology.


Don't worry about it. I've dealt with more effective libs than Rox before. Have you noticed that she's changed her picture? Was the other picture false advertising, or did her silicone leak out?
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flaja
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 03:08 pm
Roxxxanne wrote:
woiyo wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
Cyclo, he gets his information form "hearing" it. Why should he actually get the info first hand when he can listen to BOR, Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham on the radio? The ignorance of the electorate these days is alarming.


Your arrogance is quite annoying and disrespectful.

The concept of "committed delegates" has been misreported for years and many so called experts were unfamiliar.

Only the true GEEKS like you would "fake" knowing this before the article was written.

You are the same person who when I asked you directly WHY you say McCain has no chance, your response was "LOL".

I think you owe FLAJA an apology.


The Roger Simon story was widely reported,only an ignoramus would not have known the source and the details of this story. If the fact that I am light years more knowledgeable than you or the flajas of the world makes me a geek, than I am a geek.

I don't have to apologize for your or flaja's ignorance.


Where was it "widely reported" and the net doesn't count because most people don't blindly search political websites to get the day's news.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 03:14 pm
flaja wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
woiyo wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
Cyclo, he gets his information form "hearing" it. Why should he actually get the info first hand when he can listen to BOR, Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham on the radio? The ignorance of the electorate these days is alarming.


Your arrogance is quite annoying and disrespectful.

The concept of "committed delegates" has been misreported for years and many so called experts were unfamiliar.

Only the true GEEKS like you would "fake" knowing this before the article was written.

You are the same person who when I asked you directly WHY you say McCain has no chance, your response was "LOL".

I think you owe FLAJA an apology.


The Roger Simon story was widely reported,only an ignoramus would not have known the source and the details of this story. If the fact that I am light years more knowledgeable than you or the flajas of the world makes me a geek, than I am a geek.

I don't have to apologize for your or flaja's ignorance.


Where was it "widely reported" and the net doesn't count because most people don't blindly search political websites to get the day's news.



Most people are ignoramuses. But I didn't get the story directly from the internet, it was reported on virtually every news show on cable, form Hardball to the Situation Room to Countdown to ...and agin, if y9u don't know who Roger Simon is, you shouldn't be commenting on politics.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 06:15 pm
And that last comment is the reason so many do not participate in the political forum. You cite cable TV as the oracle of political information. Not everyone has access to or can afford cable TV. If people have questions about politics, like Flaja did, where are they supposed to ask them, in the Food forum?

I don't know who Roger (Imabigshotinmyownmind) whatshisname is either, and I don't care who he is. I wouldn't rely on him for info about the convention delegates no matter who he is. I'd go to the source and read the info contained in the Convention Rules found on the DNC website and make up my own mind rather than depend on some cable TV News entertainer to tell me what to think about it.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 08:15 pm
Butrflynet wrote:
And that last comment is the reason so many do not participate in the political forum. You cite cable TV as the oracle of political information. Not everyone has access to or can afford cable TV. If people have questions about politics, like Flaja did, where are they supposed to ask them, in the Food forum?

I don't know who Roger (Imabigshotinmyownmind) whatshisname is either, and I don't care who he is. I wouldn't rely on him for info about the convention delegates no matter who he is. I'd go to the source and read the info contained in the Convention Rules found on the DNC website and make up my own mind rather than depend on some cable TV News entertainer to tell me what to think about it.


Good post. I had no idea who this guy was either (still don't), and I'm not going to waste my time looking.

Listen to the message, not the messenger.

Roxxxanne will never learn.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 08:25 pm
Roger L. Simon is a novelist and I think a screenwriter who lives in the Los Angeles area. He's also a political blogger and a registered Democrat for at least the past 30 years or so. He's one of the founders of pajamasmedia and contributes to Politico (which may be a spin-off of pajamasmedia - not sure since I haven't kept up with all that stuff in a couple of years). I've always enjoyed his writing.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2008 08:29 pm
maporsche wrote:
Butrflynet wrote:
And that last comment is the reason so many do not participate in the political forum. You cite cable TV as the oracle of political information. Not everyone has access to or can afford cable TV. If people have questions about politics, like Flaja did, where are they supposed to ask them, in the Food forum?

I don't know who Roger (Imabigshotinmyownmind) whatshisname is either, and I don't care who he is. I wouldn't rely on him for info about the convention delegates no matter who he is. I'd go to the source and read the info contained in the Convention Rules found on the DNC website and make up my own mind rather than depend on some cable TV News entertainer to tell me what to think about it.


Good post. I had no idea who this guy was either (still don't), and I'm not going to waste my time looking.

Listen to the message, not the messenger.

Roxxxanne will never learn.



You don't have to have cable TV to know who Roger Simon is. Just go to politco.com. He is one of the most respected political journalists in the country. And Roger Simon is the one who broke the story.
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