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Media Going Bonkers over Kennedy Endorsement

 
 
Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 11:57 am
Maybe this is bigger than I thought or maybe it is media hype but the media is playing this up as a MAJOR EVENT.

Caroline K is speaking now at yet another riveting Obama rally.

It has been said that Teddie can deliver California...
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 11:59 am
TeddY: "Caroline, your mother and father would be proud of you today!"
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 12:40 pm
Teddie can still give a rousing speech.

"Extraordinary" Andrea Mitchell

Chris Mathews: Excitement we haven't seen since the sixties.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 12:46 pm
The 60's are the problem....

Dunno how so many of you can't see that.

Oh yeah, you inhaled.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 12:48 pm
I'm pro Obama, but I'm not so sure this is a good thing. But maybe it is, given that oldies tend to vote.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 12:50 pm
Here is a sample of what Matthews was referring to (for our mentally challenged A2K members:

Vice President Johnson, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Chief Justice, President Eisenhower, Vice President Nixon, President Truman, reverend clergy, fellow citizens, we observe today not a victory of party, but a celebration of freedom?-symbolizing an end, as well as a beginning?-signifying renewal, as well as change. For I have sworn before you and Almighty God the same solemn oath our forebears prescribed nearly a century and three quarters ago. 1
The world is very different now. For man holds in his mortal hands the power to abolish all forms of human poverty and all forms of human life. And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe?-the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God. 2
We dare not forget today that we are the heirs of that first revolution. Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans?-born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage?-and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this Nation has always been committed, and to which we are committed today at home and around the world. 3
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. 4
This much we pledge?-and more. 5
To those old allies whose cultural and spiritual origins we share, we pledge the loyalty of faithful friends. United, there is little we cannot do in a host of cooperative ventures. Divided, there is little we can do?-for we dare not meet a powerful challenge at odds and split asunder. 6
To those new States whom we welcome to the ranks of the free, we pledge our word that one form of colonial control shall not have passed away merely to be replaced by a far more iron tyranny. We shall not always expect to find them supporting our view. But we shall always hope to find them strongly supporting their own freedom?-and to remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside. 7
To those peoples in the huts and villages across the globe struggling to break the bonds of mass misery, we pledge our best efforts to help them help themselves, for whatever period is required?-not because the Communists may be doing it, not because we seek their votes, but because it is right. If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. 8
To our sister republics south of our border, we offer a special pledge?-to convert our good words into good deeds?-in a new alliance for progress?-to assist free men and free governments in casting off the chains of poverty. But this peaceful revolution of hope cannot become the prey of hostile powers. Let all our neighbors know that we shall join with them to oppose aggression or subversion anywhere in the Americas. And let every other power know that this Hemisphere intends to remain the master of its own house. 9
To that world assembly of sovereign states, the United Nations, our last best hope in an age where the instruments of war have far outpaced the instruments of peace, we renew our pledge of support?-to prevent it from becoming merely a forum for invective?-to strengthen its shield of the new and the weak?-and to enlarge the area in which its writ may run. 10
Finally, to those nations who would make themselves our adversary, we offer not a pledge but a request: that both sides begin anew the quest for peace, before the dark powers of destruction unleashed by science engulf all humanity in planned or accidental self-destruction. 11
We dare not tempt them with weakness. For only when our arms are sufficient beyond doubt can we be certain beyond doubt that they will never be employed. 12
But neither can two great and powerful groups of nations take comfort from our present course?-both sides overburdened by the cost of modern weapons, both rightly alarmed by the steady spread of the deadly atom, yet both racing to alter that uncertain balance of terror that stays the hand of mankind's final war. 13
So let us begin anew?-remembering on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness, and sincerity is always subject to proof. Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate. 14
Let both sides explore what problems unite us instead of belaboring those problems which divide us. 15
Let both sides, for the first time, formulate serious and precise proposals for the inspection and control of arms?-and bring the absolute power to destroy other nations under the absolute control of all nations. 16
Let both sides seek to invoke the wonders of science instead of its terrors. Together let us explore the stars, conquer the deserts, eradicate disease, tap the ocean depths, and encourage the arts and commerce. 17
Let both sides unite to heed in all corners of the earth the command of Isaiah?-to "undo the heavy burdens ... and to let the oppressed go free." 18
And if a beachhead of cooperation may push back the jungle of suspicion, let both sides join in creating a new endeavor, not a new balance of power, but a new world of law, where the strong are just and the weak secure and the peace preserved. 19
All this will not be finished in the first 100 days. Nor will it be finished in the first 1,000 days, nor in the life of this Administration, nor even perhaps in our lifetime on this planet. But let us begin. 20
In your hands, my fellow citizens, more than in mine, will rest the final success or failure of our course. Since this country was founded, each generation of Americans has been summoned to give testimony to its national loyalty. The graves of young Americans who answered the call to service surround the globe. 21
Now the trumpet summons us again?-not as a call to bear arms, though arms we need; not as a call to battle, though embattled we are?-but a call to bear the burden of a long twilight struggle, year in and year out, "rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation"?-a struggle against the common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease, and war itself. 22
Can we forge against these enemies a grand and global alliance, North and South, East and West, that can assure a more fruitful life for all mankind? Will you join in that historic effort? 23
In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility?-I welcome it. I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other people or any other generation. The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this endeavor will light our country and all who serve it?-and the glow from that fire can truly light the world. 24
And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you?-ask what you can do for your country. 25
My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man. 26
Finally, whether you are citizens of America or citizens of the world, ask of us the same high standards of strength and sacrifice which we ask of you. With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds, let us go forth to lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth God's work must truly be our own.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 12:52 pm
ossobuco wrote:
I'm pro Obama, but I'm not so sure this is a good thing. But maybe it is, given that oldies tend to vote.


Well, be sure, it is not a good thing, it's a GREAT thing.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 12:55 pm
We don't need a great pacifist orator with little to no experience.

I'm sure Bill is just having a cow over this. It's fun to watch.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 12:58 pm
More of what Matthews was referring to
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 01:00 pm
JFK was a loved president with some rather unusual personal demons.

Ted is a drunken murderer.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 01:02 pm
ossobuco wrote:
I'm pro Obama, but I'm not so sure this is a good thing. But maybe it is, given that oldies tend to vote.


If you are pro Obama... a Kennedy endorsement is a very good thing.

Just the news splash (the fact it made headlines across the country) is a good thing for Obama. It gives more legitimacy and again undercuts the Hillary inevitabliity thing.

Second, Hillary right now has a big advantage in the Hispanic community (in my opinion this is completely undeserved). Kennedy will help among this community in the all important state of California.

Third, Hillary started with a big advantage in the party establishment. Kennedy has connections in the party... this will be important down the stretch.

Yes... this is a pretty good day for Obama fans.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 01:09 pm
Oh... and the downside of the Kennedy Endorsement?

Well, the number of the people in the US who hate Kennedy and don't hate Hillary can be counted on one hand.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 01:36 pm
I'm thinking this will boost his super delegates, too.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 01:42 pm
Quote:
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty


And thats what makes JFK different then most of the dems today, IMHO.
A majority of the dems today dont agree with this statement from JFK's speech.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 01:53 pm
<<ebrown wonders if MM understands that JFK has not endorsed any candidate in the 2008 primaries, a fact that has nothing to do with the Democrats support for liberty.>>
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 01:58 pm
I was thinking more re that the strong distaste for liberals is sort of fed by the endorsement - but I take your points, ebrown, especially the second and third ones.
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paull
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 03:37 pm
No way does Obama win California. Latinos no se gustan los Negros.

Rox, nice rack! Is a subcompact missing its safety equipment somewhere?
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 03:50 pm
<<ebrown contemplates correcting paull's crappy Spanish... and then thinks about pointing out the fact that Dominicans... >>

Oh never mind.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 04:06 pm
How racist is it to characterize Hispanics as all thinking alike?
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paull
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 04:26 pm
If racism means identifying races, being informed, and making conclusions about how they will vote, I am a bigoted as they come. The difference is info, which is hard to come by in Russian River dives.
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