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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2008 06:55 pm
Neighbors gathered around / over her as she was lying / lay in the middle of the street.

Which verbs should I use?

Many thanks.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2008 06:58 pm
Re: correct verbs
Yoong Liat wrote:
Neighbors gathered around / over her as she was lying / lay in the middle of the street.

Which verbs should I use?

Many thanks.


Neighbors gathered around her as she lay in the street.

I might be wrong, but that sounds damned good to me.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2008 07:04 pm
Thanks, Gus.

I'll wait for the response from another member.

You're sober, aren't you?

I've just got up of bed.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2008 07:06 pm
I'm not necessarily sober, but I'm not seeing double yet.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2008 07:08 pm
Hi Gus

If you see double, take a taxi home. Leave your car in the carpark.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2008 07:09 pm
<looks around house for car -- doesn't see one>
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2008 07:12 pm
Gus, I don't think Yoong Liat trusts you!
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2008 07:14 pm
I have that same feeling, littlek.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2008 07:17 pm
littlek wrote:
Gus, I don't think Yoong Liat trusts you!


Hi Littlek

Just to confirm whether Gus is correct. I trust Gus when he is sober.

Neighbors gathered around / over her as she was lying / lay in the middle of the street.

Which verbs should I use?

Many thanks.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2008 10:53 pm
Re: correct verbs
Yoong Liat wrote:
Neighbors gathered around / over her as she was lying / lay in the middle of the street.

Which verbs should I use?

Many thanks.

around/over: both are acceptable, although "around" would probably be more commonly used.

was lying/lay: the choice between "lie" and "lay" is difficult even for native English speakers. The difference is that "lie" is intransitive while "lay" is transitive. In other words, "lay" takes a direct object, "lie" doesn't. So "she lay in the middle of the street" is wrong (it raises the question: what did she lay in the middle of the street?). Consequently, "was lying" is the correct choice.
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contrex
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 03:27 pm
Re: correct verbs
joefromchicago wrote:
was lying/lay: the choice between "lie" and "lay" is difficult even for native English speakers.


As is seems to be for you! You get a bit confused about what "intransitive" means, I think...

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"Lie" is intransitive while "lay" is transitive. In other words, "lay" takes a direct object, "lie" doesn't. So "she lay in the middle of the street" is wrong(it raises the question: what did she lay in the middle of the street?).


Answer: Herself.

"To lie" is an intransitive verb. It describes an action undertaken by the subject, but it has no direct object. That is, the verb "to lie" does not express the kind of action that can be DONE TO anything. Think of it as meaning "to recline."

It is conjugated in this manner:

I LIE here every day. (She LIES here.)
I LAY here yesterday.

She lay in the middle of the street


I WILL LIE here tomorrow.

I AM LYING here right now.

I HAVE LAIN here every day for years.

"To lay" is a transitive verb. It describes an action and needs a direct object because it describes the kind of action that is DONE TO something. That is, something or someone in the sentence has to be receiving the action of the verb. Think of this verb as meaning "to place," "to put."

It is conjugated in this manner:

I LAY my book on the table every night before turning out the light. (She LAYS her book on the table.)
I LAID my book on the table last night.
I WILL LAY my book on the table tonight.
I AM LAYING my book on the table right now.
I HAVE LAID my book on the table every night for years.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 04:21 pm
Re: correct verbs
contrex wrote:
You get a bit confused about what "intransitive" means, I think...

No, I'm not confused at all about what "intransitive" means, as your own example confirms. But you're correct: "lay" is the simple past tense of "lie." Thus, "lay" in Yoong Liat's sentence is acceptable. I'll add that "was lying" is also acceptable.
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