Let's get behind this Huckabee fellow...

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Mysteryman: you might want to recall President Reagan's famous testimony regarding the Iran-Contra Scandal -that's right, the one in which he testified 130 times that he didn't remember or couldn't recall, mostly because he couldn't recall or remember.

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Then why would you want Hillary as President?
After all, during the investigation into the Rose Law firm billing records, she said "I dont know" or "I dont remember" to EVERY question she was asked.
She showed her paranoia when she claimed a "vast right wing conspiracy" was out to get her husband when the Lewinski story broke.

Using the same logic you used in your quote I copied, Hillary cannot serve as President either.

MM, One doesn't connect to the other. I gave Reagan's words as an example of dotage which it was, the poor dope was in a bad state, but besides that, he was testifying in regard to an assault on our Constitution, OUR Constitution, MM. He was testifying in regard to clearly illegal acts made during his Presidency that, had he still been President, might have led to his impeachment. You do remember that, right?

EVERYONE I know that served in the WH or at Camp David during Reagans two terms all say the same thing.
His mind was working fine, and he was as saharp as a tack.
There was no dotage at all.
I prefer to believe people that actually saw and knew him over people that just want to throw stones and make wild accusations.
So, until you can provide medical evidence about him during his presidency that shows he had Alzheimers then, I wont accept your word for it.

He signed the Presidential Findings but failed to remember doing so? He authorized funding for a covert war that had been specifically, with, I might add, bi-partisan support, de-funded and de-authorized by Act of Congress. This is not exactly akin to forgetting a dental appointment.

And I know you are still hoping for something, anything, to come out of Whitewater, you poor thing, but it's really over. Nearly 100 million dollars of our money, OUR money, MM, was spent to quiet the howls of the rightwing wolves. It's ironic that you would use 'paranoia' because if anyone was paranoid, and a bit manic, during that time, it was the Richard Scaife's moneyed rightwing operatives.. The conspiricy, really more like a movement but that term gives it some dignity, was to find some way, any way, legal or otherwise, to remove Bill Clinton from the White House. They tried to commit a coupe d'etat by scandal mongering and lies. Not exactly the American way, but the rightwing has never claimed any motive except to increase it's power. What Constitution?
They almost succeeded, but not from their own efforts, the hounddog met up with Monica and left the gate open. Idiot. Not you. Bill.

As far as the Whitewater investigation goes, I said then and I say it again now, it was a collosal waste of time and money.
But that still doesnt change the fact that Hillary had total amnesia when it came to answering questions about it.
What was she hiding, and why did she refuse to tell the truth?
Or, was it dotage on her part?
You say there is a difference, I say that she was trying to hide something and didnt want to be honest.
If she did that then, why do you think she wont get amnesia if she gets elected?


I don't agree with Hillary on a number of things, but if anyone has had her steel tempered, she's the one. Just as John McCain had to learn and be prepared for the lies from the right, I think she is ready for the onslaught of filth and mud to come.

She probably is, , and I am willing to bet that she will throw as much or more of the filth and mud.
Just look at the garbage she has tried so far this election.

Joe(I just wonder about the rest of us.)Nation

What was she hiding, and why did she refuse to tell the truth?

Why did she refuse to tell the truth?

How do you feel about the Republican race getting down to two horses after Florida's primary?
Rudy will be out with Mike(I have no money)Huckabee right behind him. So it will really be just Mitt and John.

Which of Mitt's flips do you like the best?
A) That he's ALWAYS been pro-life.
B) That he's Always been pro-gun.
C) That he's Always been a friend of the working man.

Joe(I think he's battery-operated)Nation

The Edwards Flip Flop Record

Just so that I am clear: you haven't paid any attention to most interesting race for President in fifty years.

Joe(come on.)Nation

Joe Nation wrote:

Just so that I am clear: you haven't paid any attention to most interesting race for President in fifty years.

Joe(come on.)Nation

I didnt say that.
I said I havent paid MUCH attention to the race yet.
There is a difference.

With so many people running, they were, IMHO, drowning each other out with what they were saying.
Now that the field on both sides has been winnowed some, I will start paying more attention.

Therefore, Clinton is a lying scumbag who deserves to rot in hell for her sins against humanity.


Does that about sum it up?

maporsche wrote:

Therefore, Clinton is a lying scumbag who deserves to rot in hell for her sins against humanity.


Does that about sum it up?

No ... Clinton is a lying scumbag for other reasons.

Ticomaya wrote:

maporsche wrote:

Therefore, Clinton is a lying scumbag who deserves to rot in hell for her sins against humanity.


Does that about sum it up?

No ... Clinton is a lying scumbag for other reasons.

What lies. And be very specific.

Joe(jerkcough)Nation

George W. Bush is famous for his attachment to a painting which he acquired after becoming a "born again Christian." It's by W.H.D. Koerner and is entitled "A Charge to Keep." Bush was so taken by it, that he took the painting's name for his own official autobiography. And here's what he says about it:

I thought I would share with you a recent bit of Texas history which epitomizes our mission. When you come into my office, please take a look at the beautiful painting of a horseman determinedly charging up what appears to be a steep and rough trail. This is us. What adds complete life to the painting for me is the message of Charles Wesley that we serve One greater than ourselves.

So in Bush's view (or perhaps I should say, faith) the key figure, with whom he personally identifies, is a missionary spreading the word of the Methodist Christianity in the American West in the late nineteenth century.

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[Bush] came to believe that the picture depicted the circuit-riders who spread Methodism across the Alleghenies in the nineteenth century. In other words, the cowboy who looked like Bush was a missionary of his own denomination.

Only that is not the title, message, or meaning of the painting. The artist, W.H.D. Koerner, executed it to illustrate a Western short story entitled "The Slipper Tongue," published in The Saturday Evening Post in 1916. The story is about a smooth-talking horse thief who is caught, and then escapes a lynch mob in the Sand Hills of Nebraska. The illustration depicts the thief fleeing his captors. In the magazine, the illustration bears the caption: "Had His Start Been Fifteen Minutes Longer He Would Not Have Been Caught."

So Bush's inspiring, prosyletizing Methodist is in fact a silver-tongued horse thief fleeing from a lynch mob. It seems a fitting marker for the Bush presidency.

Bush has consistently exhibited what psychologists call the "Tolstoy syndrome." That is, he is completely convinced he knows what things are, so he shuts down all avenues of inquiry about them and disregards the information that is offered to him. This is the hallmark of a tragically bad executive. But in this case, it couldn't be more precious. The president of the United States has identified closely with a man he sees as a mythic, heroic figure. But in fact he's a wily criminal one step out in front of justice. It perfectly reflects Bush the man. . . and Bush the president.

http://harpers.org/archive/2008/01/hbc-90002237

Joe Nation wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:

maporsche wrote:

Therefore, Clinton is a lying scumbag who deserves to rot in hell for her sins against humanity.


Does that about sum it up?

No ... Clinton is a lying scumbag for other reasons.

What lies. And be very specific.

Joe(Yeah, that will happen*) Nation

I was all ramped up to do that for you, Joe -- but then I thought I might make sure you understood I was referring to Billy Boy, not the Missus.

If you want me to recount Billy's lies, I'm just waiting for your nod.

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I was all ramped up to do that for you, Joe -- but then I thought I might make sure you understood I was referring to Billy Boy, not the Missus.

If you want me to recount Billy's lies, I'm just waiting for your nod.

So, even though maporsche says HER sins against humanity....??? You still can't take you eyes off "Billy Boy". I know Obama says he can't tell sometimes who he is running against, but I thought you were smarter than him.

You want to try again and keep the parties straight? Or does 'the missus' get a pass from you?

Joe(*previous epithet removed so as to not offend the gentle reader)Nation

MM, in response to your defense of Reagan let me get this straight.

Reagan did say "I can't remember" (or something similar) over 100 times during his testamony.
At this point in time, Reagan was not affected by his alzheimers.
Therefore, Reagan simply couldn't remember, but was of sound mind and body and a great model for our society.


Clinton did say "I can't remember" (or something similar) a lot during the WW testamony.
At this point in time, Clinton was not affected by alzheimers.
Therefore, Clinton is a lying scumbag who deserves to rot in hell for her sins against humanity.


Does that about sum it up?

Well, whenever you decide that it's worth your time to look at these candidates, I'd be curious to know your answer his question too.

Two "Clintons" gave concession speeches last night, so keeping straight which is the candidate is a more difficult task than you indicate.