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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 07:53 am
What should be obvious to anyone who doesn't have one's head buried in the sand of Brandenburg is that the soil of Prussia is not what was poor, it is the soil of Brandenburg, and your inability to comprehend the distinction which are poor.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 08:11 am
Dorothy Parker's mot to the effect that you can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think applies to Herr Flaja with reference to history . . . among a host of other subjects.

Hey, Herr Flaja . . . tell us again about straight hair.
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old europe
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 08:39 am
Re: private lives?
flaja wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
flaja wrote:
Didn't Prussia start out as a very small geopolitical entity- essentially the Honhenzollern family farm?


Now it gets really funny.


You don't have sarcasm in Germany?


No.




flaja wrote:
it should have been obvious to you that I was not talking about Prussia as it existed after 1871.


Right. When you said

flaja wrote:
The land of Prussia is notoriously worthless for agricultural purposes. By early 1930s many of the Junker nobles were bankrupt.


you were really talking about the region that was known as Prussia before 1871. It should have been obvious.
































Prussia, 1866:

http://i8.tinypic.com/8esv59v.jpg
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 08:43 am
When it comes to straight men, the clueless Herr Flaja is better than Stan Laurel, Lou Costello or Jerry Lewis. They don't get much more hilarious than when they seriously believe the tripe they post.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 08:50 am
That's Brandenburg aka 'Preussen' at the time of the Great Kurfürst (1610 - 1688)

http://i14.tinypic.com/86sg7xu.jpg

red = what Johann Sigismund got 1608/10

yellow/green - new territotries under the Greta Kurfürst.

You may perhaps notice, that West Prussia still isn't part of Brandenburg, that the original Kurfürstentum Brandenburg is in brown. You may not know, though, that the Herzogtum Preussen was the former Deutschherren Provinz and didn't belong to the German Empire until it became of Brandeburg


From West to East (leaving out the African territories):

http://i6.tinypic.com/6t0agox.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/85f33w2.jpg

http://i1.tinypic.com/6utletw.jpg



And here again ...

http://i14.tinypic.com/6phmqoj.jpg
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old europe
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 08:51 am
Re: private lives?
flaja wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
It was mentioned here before already and thus I deleted my response re flaja's claims about "Prussia".

flaja wrote:

I wasn't talking about the geopolitical entity of Prussia, but rather the dirt of Prussia. And while Prussia may have the highest production of any Land (i.e., state) in the Federal Republic this is only because of its physical size. Prussia's soil is not very fertile. Acre for acre other Laender are more productive.


What you call "the dirt of Prussia" might have been what is known as "the Holy Empire of German Nation's box of sand" - the Brandenburg Marches have contemptuously been called so. That's not the historical Prussia but what was the 'heartland' of the later Prussia.


And thus was the main reason behind the Osthilfe Scandal. Since I was talking about Osthilfe, it should have been obvious that I was talking about Prussia's poor soil.



Right. It should have been obvious that you were talking about the 'poor soil' of the Brandenburg Marches - Prussia's heartland by 1930 (even though when you said 'Prussia', you were really talking about the Prussia before 1871).

Then again, the Eastern Aid programme was instituted to help bankrupt estates in East Prussia.

East Prussia - Brandenburg Marches. Almost no difference. Maybe a few hundred kilometres.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 08:54 am
Sh!t - the same map is on wikipedia - no need to scan/copy it Evil or Very Mad
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 09:11 am
Re: private lives?
old europe wrote:
flaja wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
flaja wrote:
Didn't Prussia start out as a very small geopolitical entity- essentially the Honhenzollern family farm?


Now it gets really funny.


You don't have sarcasm in Germany?


No.


It just got funnier. Laughing

I'll probably chuckle about this one all day.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 09:47 am
blatham wrote:
In a first year Canadian history course I took a long time ago, in a discussion we were having after studying some primary and secondary sources, one youngish male student began to argue with the class TA on the details of the relevant historical event or trend. "What you and 'these people' are saying isnt right," he insisted. The TA inquired why he thought this way. He answered that "It's much different in the movies."

There are movies about Canadian history?

Oh yeah, I forgot about this one.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 10:14 am
joefromchicago wrote:
blatham wrote:
In a first year Canadian history course I took a long time ago, in a discussion we were having after studying some primary and secondary sources, one youngish male student began to argue with the class TA on the details of the relevant historical event or trend. "What you and 'these people' are saying isnt right," he insisted. The TA inquired why he thought this way. He answered that "It's much different in the movies."

There are movies about Canadian history?

Oh yeah, I forgot about this one.


Absolutely! The very model for my life. Well, that and the following, of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91PCxlTKfII
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 10:28 am
Well, when I'm in Chicago, I really can feel the Canadian history ...
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 10:59 am
I hesitate to link the following bit of canadian mennonite history for fear I might offend those below The Sacred 49TH or even those further away. It is a brief hesitation. It is now past.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VzStkRmHc0
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hamburger
 
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Reply Thu 3 Jan, 2008 02:55 pm
walter wrote :

Quote:
Well, when I'm in Chicago, I really can feel the Canadian history ...


that's the way it should be !
after all it was the canadian SAMUEL BRONFMAN who supplied chicago and much of the united states with whisky that was being being destilled in canada .
while there was also prohibition in canada , the canadian government saw nothing wrong with whisky and other spirits being destilled in canada
AS LONG AS THE GOODS WERE ALL EXPORTED Laughing !

Quote:
Lucky Luciano was quoted as saying-
"Sam Bronfman was bootleggin' enough whiskey across the Canadian border to double the size of Lake Erie"


the whisky was usually smuggled across lake erie and the st. lawrence river by the fastest speed-boats available - certainly faster than most U.S. border control and coast guard cutters .

chicago had really become an important PORT OF ENTRY and customer of canadian liquid goods :wink: Exclamation

THE BRONFMAN FAMILY has in the meantime become an icon of canadian industry and charity Laughing
hbg



see :
CANADIAN WHISKY IN CHICAGO
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