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flaja wrote:

The land of Prussia is notoriously worthless for agricultural purposes. By early 1930s many of the Junker nobles were bankrupt. The Reichstag had prepared a secret report detailing the Osthilfe, a program whereby the government would make loans to the bankrupt Junkers with no intention of ever collecting repayment.

Prussia was no 'land' but a 'Free State'.
And the biggest agricultural producer in the German Reich - which is surpring when you look at map:

Setanta wrote:

Don't try to confuse Herr Flaja with mere facts, Walter . . . that's very rude.

Well, sometimes I really forget it. (Especially that he studied German and history).

(Psscht: they collected all the fake items about the Titanic and the other British Olympic-class ocean liners in the Liverpool maritime museum)

Walter Hinteler wrote:

flaja wrote:

The land of Prussia is notoriously worthless for agricultural purposes. By early 1930s many of the Junker nobles were bankrupt. The Reichstag had prepared a secret report detailing the Osthilfe, a program whereby the government would make loans to the bankrupt Junkers with no intention of ever collecting repayment.

Prussia was no 'land' but a 'Free State'.
And the biggest agricultural producer in the German Reich - which is surpring when you look at map:

Isn't your map the country of Prussia after Bismark? Isn't the modern state of Prussia within the Bundesrepublik rather small? Didn't Prussia start out as a very small geopolitical entity- essentially the Honhenzollern family farm?

OE, Herr Flaja is what was referred to in hippie days as an all-day trip . . . some of the best free entertainment online . . .

. . . there's the area of the duchy and county (Markgrafschaft) of Prussia (often called East Prussia) that is now split between Russia (Kaliningrad) and Poland, . . .

Walter's map, by the way, shows the state of Prussia during the Weimar period (which, I suppose, means that there's a third way to define "Prussia"). That incarnation of Prussia includes most of the Kingdom of Prussia during the imperial era (1870-1918) but doesn't include the areas ceded to Poland and a few bits ceded to Belgium and Denmark in the aftermath of the First World War.

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Didn't Prussia start out as a very small geopolitical entity- essentially the Honhenzollern family farm?

Titanic was owned by an American company and thus was an American ship even though it was registered as a British ship for the purposes of international law. It was always assumed that the inside of Titanic reflected its British status. But this isn't true. The British call elevators "lifts", and it was always assumed that the elevators on Titanic were called lifts. However, one of James Cameron's expeditions to the wreck of Titanic found the 1st class elevators and they were marked elevators. Evidently White Star expected most of Titanic's 1st class passengers to be American and it used American, rather than British, terminology. In this regard Titanic was built to American design specifications.

I wasn't talking about the geopolitical entity of Prussia, but rather the dirt of Prussia. And while Prussia may have the highest production of any Land (i.e., state) in the Federal Republic this is only because of its physical size. Prussia's soil is not very fertile. Acre for acre other Laender are more productive.

flaja wrote:

Didn't Prussia start out as a very small geopolitical entity- essentially the Honhenzollern family farm?

Now it gets really funny.

Oh, and I certainly chose that first map and that period by the years flaja gave.

flaja wrote:

Titanic was owned by an American company and thus was an American ship even though it was registered as a British ship for the purposes of international law. It was always assumed that the inside of Titanic reflected its British status. But this isn't true. The British call elevators "lifts", and it was always assumed that the elevators on Titanic were called lifts. However, one of James Cameron's expeditions to the wreck of Titanic found the 1st class elevators and they were marked elevators. Evidently White Star expected most of Titanic's 1st class passengers to be American and it used American, rather than British, terminology. In this regard Titanic was built to American design specifications.

And certainly that's why the Olympic and Britannic became British troop-transporters ...

It was mentioned here before already and thus I deleted my response re flaja's claims about "Prussia".

flaja wrote:

I wasn't talking about the geopolitical entity of Prussia, but rather the dirt of Prussia. And while Prussia may have the highest production of any Land (i.e., state) in the Federal Republic this is only because of its physical size. Prussia's soil is not very fertile. Acre for acre other Laender are more productive.

What you call "the dirt of Prussia" might have been what is known as "the Holy Empire of German Nation's box of sand" - the Brandenburg Marches have contemptuously been called so. That's not the historical Prussia but what was the 'heartland' of the later Prussia.