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sumac
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 07:46 am
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031601234.html
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ul
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 09:17 am
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9305/kleeti4.jpg


Happy St. Patrick's Day!
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danon5
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 11:53 am
ul, what a wonderfully pretty picture. I can 'feel' the dew on my hands after touching them. Great - thanks Very Happy

You know, of course that St. Patty was not Irish. He was the first Brit to actually capture the Celts - who became the Irish. He did it by God. He was a missionary who actually survived and convinced the Celts to worship a different religion. The story is still going and I don't see an end yet in the future. Big Grin Very Happy

Haaaapy St. Patti's all. Very Happy Very Happy
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Stradee
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 01:40 pm
http://www.hellasmultimedia.com/webimages/patrick-htm/patrick/anim_images/flying_clover_md_wht.gif



Beth, soon the snow will begin melting, new growth and plants blooming, the clothline with wonderours new finds, and the babies outdoors romping in the sunshine again. Very Happy

Yep, four shamrocks!
http://www.hellasmultimedia.com/webimages/patrick-htm/patrick/anim_images/ncshamrock_e0.gif

Lovely St Patty's Day image, ul!

http://www.hellasmultimedia.com/webimages/patrick-htm/patrick/anim_images/clover2.gif

sue, will check out the links this afternoon.

Dan, and all wildclickers, have a good day! Very Happy




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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 05:44 pm
Slainte a's beannachtam na Femle Padraig!

(I just had to show off. That's "Cheers on St. Patrick's Day" in Irish Gaelic.)
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Stradee
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 06:26 pm


Shocked

really??? Laughing
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Stradee
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 06:28 pm
oops, couldn' watch the video - dial way to slow.


OMG! A Merry Andrew siting! Very Happy
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 05:45 am
I guess this falls under the category of "No ****!".

Man-Made Chemicals May Put Strain on Fish

By David A. Fahrenthold
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, March 18, 2008; B01

The Potomac River contains an array of man-made chemicals that could play havoc with animals' hormone systems, federal scientists have found in their best glimpse yet of the river's problems with a mysterious new class of pollutant.

The research, unveiled at a conference last week, found more than 10 of the compounds, including pesticides, herbicides and artificial fragrances. Through an accident of chemistry, formulas designed to kill bugs or add smell to soap might also interfere with vital signals in fish, amphibians and other creatures.

The scientists said they hoped this new research might explain one of the Potomac's most bizarre discoveries: Some male fish have begun growing eggs. Scientists said there was no evidence of a threat to human health.

Taken with a recent report that drinking water samples from the river contain traces of drugs, the results provide troubling evidence about the river's health. People living along the Potomac, the results showed, have widely tainted it with pollutants that scientists are just beginning to understand.

"The types of things we're finding are the types of things that are associated with everyday life," said David Alvarez, a U.S. Geological Survey research chemist who analyzed samples from the Potomac. The contaminants flow into the river from sewer plants and in rainwater washing off of farm fields and suburban lawns, he said.

"If it's something we're using, ultimately it's going to end up in the water," Alvarez said.

The chemicals in the study presented at the conference, held in Berkeley Springs, W.Va., are suspected by scientists to be "endocrine disruptors." This group of contaminants interferes with natural hormone systems, twisting or aborting the processes that hormones control. The conference was sponsored by the Metropolitan Washington Council of Governments.

Much about the compounds is still unclear, including which of them really do have bad effects.

In 1996, the Environmental Protection Agency was ordered by Congress to create a testing program to identify endocrine disruptors, but the tests have not begun.

Along the Potomac, researchers have long suspected that hormone-mimicking chemicals were the cause of the "intersex" fish. The first of these creatures, male fish with eggs growing in their sex organs, were noticed in a rural West Virginia tributary in 2003.

Follow-up studies have found the fish throughout the

watershed, including near the Woodrow Wilson Bridge.

To investigate, scientists from the Geological Survey, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the Maryland Department of Natural Resources began taking samples of water in 2005 and 2006.

In the river near the District's Blue Plains sewage plant, scientists suspended a device intended to serve as a facsimile fish. The device had a plastic-coated tube, which simulated a fish's permeable skin, and a layer of simulated fat.

"We're trying to see what the fish sees," Alvarez said.

They saw a lot. The tests on this fake fat revealed a range of potentially worrisome pollutants. Most have been found in other streams around the United States, scientists said, adding that the pollutants are of special concern in the Washington area because of the intersex fish.

The discoveries included trace amounts of atrazine, a herbicide commonly used on farm fields. The EPA has put the herbicide on a list of chemicals to be tested for hormone-mimicking effects. Some scientific studies have already linked atrazine to sexual abnormalities in frogs and fish.

"There's a weight of evidence that something's going on here," said Nancy Golden, a wildlife toxicologist with the Fish and Wildlife Service, who said she was summarizing a common view, not her own conclusion.

A company that makes atrazine, the agribusiness Syngenta in Basel, Switzerland, has insisted that the chemical presents no undue risks if used properly.

Also found in the Potomac were the insecticides chlorpyrifos and endosulfan and the herbicide metolachlor. All three are on the EPA's list of chemicals to be tested for hormone-mimicking effects. Researchers said the chemicals, as well as atrazine, might have washed off suburban lawns in the Washington area or farm fields farther upstream.

Other chemicals were apparently added, unknowingly, by urban residents in the course of daily life. These included two chemicals used to add fragrance to perfumes, soaps and other products: tonalide, and galaxolide. The chemicals, when washed down drains, can pass through sewage treatment systems and into rivers.

Geological Survey researcher Vicki S. Blazer said that some evidence suggested all of the chemicals could interfere with hormones.

The research study did not look for traces of pharmaceuticals, but a separate round of federal testing has found traces of six pharmaceuticals in local drinking water taken from the Potomac.

Researchers said this new set of results marked a big step toward finding the reason for the Potomac's gender-confused fish, though it did not solve the case.

"We're beginning to narrow down some of the . . . possible chemical causes," Blazer said. "Now we have a better idea of what's there."

The repercussions for human health are also unclear. At the Washington Aqueduct, the agency that turns river water into tap water for the District, Arlington County, Falls Church and parts of Fairfax County, the treatment process is not designed to remove the chemicals.

The agency's general manager, Thomas P. Jacobus, said tests on "finished" water showed trace levels of both atrazine and metolachlor last year. He said, however, that the levels of the chemicals were so low they did not seem to pose a danger.

Ed Merrifield, executive director of the environmental group Potomac Riverkeepers, said he still wants more information about the impact of the pollutants.

"None of these chemicals should be in our water," he said.
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 06:19 am
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Stradee
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 10:54 am
good god...{sigh}

pesticides could cause, may be the reason, not conclusive...

who are those people???

Where have the Chinook Salmon gone??? Katmandu


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Amigo
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 12:12 pm
Very Happy Click
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danon5
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 02:34 pm
Thanks sumac for the info -

I recall that in the year 1967 - there was a newscast segment that said the last unpolluted air place in the USA was in the state of Wyoming. That was the last clean year we in the USA have ever had. I'm positively sure that Cheney had something to do with it. Shocked Very Happy Confused Crying or Very sad

Now, thanks to Prez Bush - who in his first two months in office in the year 2000 - released all business from controlling pollutions - Shocked

Look what it did. Today, we are in the decline of the Earth's existence.

Oh, well, one more tree saved from the bulldozer. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 02:52 pm
And now his and his cronies' negligence, failure of oversight and common sense, and stupid, stupid "let the market rule" philosophies have significantly contributed to the morgage and financial markets melt-down.

If the Dems screw up this year's opportunity, then I guess we truly deserve the government, and country, we get.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 06:17 pm
You and your 300 friends have supported 2,873,904.2 square feet!

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/NYG/MT1063~One-Hundred-Chickens-and-a-Worm-Posters.jpg
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danon5
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 06:56 pm
Hey, during the 60's a lot of USA'ers went to CANADA !!!!!!!!

We could all invade ehBeth !!
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 07:23 pm
Shocked

Very Happy
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 07:41 pm
I'll wait until the snow melts.
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danon5
 
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 08:18 pm
Not a speck of snow here - temps in the 70's to 80's.

ehBeth, you are not out of the invasion window of possibilities yet..... Very Happy

Maybe a bit later, I say, quite so.
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danon5
 
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Reply Wed 19 Mar, 2008 06:03 pm
Just another mid week day in a row.

Spring officially starts tomorrow - it started weeks ago here. What to expect in the future? Spring Light Savings programs. We'll push Spring up a month or so. Shocked

All clicked. Very Happy
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Stradee
 
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Reply Wed 19 Mar, 2008 06:03 pm
We're visiting ehBeth? Very Happy




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