parados wrote:I see. So everyone that gets an "entitlement" from the government is poor?
Not necessarily poor in that you need mot be impoverished to receive public entitlement benefits, but anyone who receives such benefits is likely dependent on the government- which is what the government wants.
Quote:Didn't you just tell us that your mother had to pay estate tax on her inheritance but gets SS disability?
Unlike people who begin receiving SSI at a young age my mother worked for 30 years- usually 50-60 hours per week during which time she lost pay because her employers had to pay Social Security taxes. Had that tax money gone into a retirement/disability account with her name on it, my mother would be far better off. She is poorer than she would have been otherwise because of the government's tax and spend policy.
Quote:Really? Maybe you should check out the REAL facts like the facts of the SS law. No retired person qualifies for SS without a benefit being earned through work credits by either that person or a spouse.
But you can get a Social Security disability check without having paid anything into the Social Security system. I have a 76 year old friend who never did anything more than waitress work and she has received a Social Security disability check since about the time she was 30. So even if she started work at age 15, she paid Social Security taxes for only about 15 years, but she has received Social Security benefits for over 40 years.
And note that my uncle was a roockie cop. When he died he hadn't been on the job for more than 10 years, but his widow collected orphan checks for about 10 years for her oldest child, 15 years for her middle child and 18 years for her youngest child. What she received in Social Security benefits was far out of proportion to what her husband had paid into the Social Security system.
Quote:Either they or their parents have paid into the system.
You don't get it do you? The amount of money you have paid into the system does not determine your eligibility period. My elderly friend paid about no more than 15 years' worth of taxes and has received about 40 years in disability benefits. She passed the break-even point a long time ago and since then all other taxpayers have been paying her bill.
Quote:What a crock. How does being a "widow" make one poor let alone mean nothing was paid in?
I didn't say that nothing was paid in. I said that too much was paid out in proportion to the little that had been paid in. My aunt and cousins were allowed to live off of the largesse of the American taxpayer courtesy of the Social Security income redistribution scheme.
Furthermore, Social Security has always been this way. When the Social Security law was enacted the government began paying out benefits immediately. The first people to receive Social Security benefits had never paid anything into the Social Security system. Social Security began as a socialist income redistribution system and has been a socialist income redistribution system ever since.
Quote:I guess she wasn't poor then, was she?
When did I say she was? The people that were poor were the working people like my mother who had to work and pay taxes that supported my aunt's income.
Quote:I see... So in other words your statement about all the poor people receiving benefits was nothing but your usual BS. Your own anecdotes often contradict your rhetorical BS.
Huh? Because most Americans at any given time are not receiving Social Security and they loose money by paying Social Security taxes (rather than investing that tax money for themselves) anyone who receives Social Security is made poorer by the government and its liberal allies.
